Topic: Failed Civ Check Even After Using Ixtreme Burner Max (Read 144 times)

ravendrow · « **on:** October 30, 2011, 10:42:00 PM »

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Oct 30 2011, 07:57 PM)

I know that CIV checks have been failed before by stock consoles using legit disks which makes this an impractical way of detecting and banning consoles.

My question is: Why does this still happen and should this be a concern? Has anyone else noticed this?
I have made my backup using iXtreme Burner MAX on my iHAS124B burner. Also i'm using Verbatims.
Thanks in advance.

what kinda stats are you pulling with kprobe?

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #1 on:** October 31, 2011, 01:32:00 AM »

CODE

Date                        : 10/31/2011 2:25:01 AM
Model                                : 2-0-2-0 E:ATAPI   iHAS124   B      AL0S
Disc                                  : DVD+R DL , MKM001 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed                               : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF)     : 8/1
Scanned range                   : 0 - 4267020
Sampling count                   : 245938
Errors                                : 0
PI Max                               : 65
PI Average                         : 11.99
PI Total                              : 371614
PIF Max                              : 5
PIF Average                        : 0.24
PIF Total                             : 7366

If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.

ravendrow · « **Reply #2 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:14:00 AM »

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Oct 31 2011, 12:32 AM)

CODE

Date                        : 10/31/2011 2:25:01 AM
Model                                : 2-0-2-0 E:ATAPI   iHAS124   B      AL0S
Disc                                  : DVD+R DL , MKM001 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed                               : Max
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF)     : 8/1
Scanned range                   : 0 - 4267020
Sampling count                   : 245938
Errors                                : 0
PI Max                               : 65
PI Average                         : 11.99
PI Total                              : 371614
PIF Max                              : 5
PIF Average                        : 0.24
PIF Total                             : 7366

If anyone has any suggestions I would greatly appreciate it.

what settings are you using? cause i am using the exact same discs and burner but the second layer of my discs dont shoot up anywhere near that high. try OPC off, force HT on, online HT on, overspeed off and smartburn on. also on your next scan drop kprobes read rate down to 4x....hope that helps

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #3 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:32:00 AM »

I have OPC off, smart burn on, forced hyper tuning off, over speed writing off, and online hyper tuning off. Thanks for the advice. I will try it out. I assume all these changes are made using the EEPROM Utility tool, correct?

ravendrow · « **Reply #4 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:32:00 AM »

Date : 10/30/2011 7:05:52 PM
Model : 1-0-0-0 ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S
Disc : DVD+R DL , MKM001 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 4267007
Sampling count : 250802
Errors : 0
PI Max : 67
PI Average : 2.16
PI Total : 67701
PIF Max : 5
PIF Average : 0.16
PIF Total : 5051

here is a burn i did with the above settings

ravendrow · « **Reply #5 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:36:00 AM »

to change the setting just use the first button to the right of # of copies in imgburn

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #6 on:** October 31, 2011, 02:42:00 AM »

The EEPROM Utility will also change the settings just fine. Thanks for the info and prompt response. I will try the new settings on my next burn and compare my results with the previous test. Thanks again.

funkyman23 · « **Reply #7 on:** October 31, 2011, 10:52:00 AM »

People u Are lucky i am geting pi max 1742 ,pi average 384 , pif max 232 pif average 251 , on every possible settings using verbatims ruined like 10 verbatims .

Burning starts normal until 25% and then goes off the charts and gets servo error on 30-40% when testing with kprobe2 on every disk.

That liteon ihas124b with max firmware cant burn even old backups and normal backups on dual layer disks , i think those liteon burners are worst possible for burning dual layer dvds pioner and lg were best for me thru years .

Dont know any more it drives me crazy

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #8 on:** October 31, 2011, 11:04:00 AM »

That sucks, hope you figure it out. I agree though, my pioneer 111d has been my go to drive for xbox games over the years. It almost always works.

I tried the same disk that gave me the error earlier and I played for about an hour, didn't receive any errors. I hope it was a one time thing.

filletofish · « **Reply #9 on:** October 31, 2011, 11:19:00 AM »

What game!?

ravendrow · « **Reply #10 on:** October 31, 2011, 11:37:00 AM »

QUOTE(funkyman23 @ Oct 31 2011, 09:52 AM)

People u Are lucky i am geting pi max 1742 ,pi average 384 , pif max 232 pif average 251 , on every possible settings using verbatims ruined like 10 verbatims .

Burning starts normal until 25% and then goes off the charts and gets servo error on 30-40% when testing with kprobe2 on every disk.

That liteon ihas124b with max firmware cant burn even old backups and normal backups on dual layer disks , i think those liteon burners are worst possible for burning dual layer dvds pioner and lg were best for me thru years .

Dont know any more it drives me crazy

it could be your sata chipset. the only problems i had was when i used cheap kodak discs....hey tom did you burn a disc with those new settings?

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 31, 2011, 05:49:00 PM »

QUOTE(ravendrow @ Oct 31 2011, 01:37 PM)

it could be your sata chipset. the only problems i had was when i used cheap kodak discs....hey tom did you burn a disc with those new settings?

I just checked the second disk of Forza 4 just to establish a better control. It looks almost the same as disk 1. I'm going to burn another xgd3 title now with the new settings. The only difference is that I wont be burning from my external hard drive. I will transfer it over to my internal hdd before I burn it. Another difference, I won't be using the computer until the burn completes. Ill update you when its done.

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 31, 2011, 07:59:00 PM »

Well here are the results as promised:

Date : 10/31/2011 8:43:38 PM
Model : 2-0-2-0 E:ATAPI iHAS124 B AL0S
Disc : DVD+R DL , MKM001 [Mitsubishi Chemical Corporation]
Speed : 4x
ECC blocks sum (PI/PIF) : 8/1
Scanned range : 0 - 4267007
Sampling count : 250742
Errors : 0
PI Max : 105
PI Average : 16.89
PI Total : 529385
PIF Max : 4
PIF Average : 0.24
PIF Total : 7504

In most respects it was actually worse than before. It still spikes up really high when testing layer two. I think I will probably go back to the old settings. The games are working so that's all I really care about. I could live with it.

filletofish · « **Reply #13 on:** November 01, 2011, 07:43:00 AM »

Tom if you've got a good read curve in DVDinfopro I can't see your burn being the problem here. Not to be patronising but are you positive that the image you are burning is a proper XGD3 rip and not a rip of a truncated image etc.

kprobe is good for telling you if your backup will last a long time and not become unreadable over time. It's not really appropriate for this situation, as in I find it highly unlikely it's the problem.

The read curve in dvdinfopro will tell you if there are any read issues around the layer break, preferably if you have a drive that can read DL burnt media back at 12-16x would be helpful and would show if there's a problem. The Liteon drives that burn these XGD3 iso only read at 8x for DL burnt media, the Xbox 360 reads at 12x.

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #14 on:** November 01, 2011, 11:46:00 AM »

No they are 0800 rips. I will check out that program. Everything seems to be working so i'm not very worried. Thanks for the info though.

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