QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Jul 26 2011, 04:23 PM)

its legit, but samsung drives and the hitachi drives this apply to only come in xenon/zephyr models, which means you are very prone to RRoD. also, the system must have come with one of these drives originally. if you put a samsung/hitachi drive in a newer system, it just fails the ap2.5 checks automatically.
what you want to do works for all samsung drives, and all hitachi's except for the 78/79 drives.g
can confirm this too, i have a hatachi drive that boots eveything (on LT+1.1)
But its the fact they are older systems, just like the JTag systems that are out there,
they just feel very weak and worried that its gonna go RROD any second (again) !
i seem to have to reflow it maybe every say 8 months, its ok as i can do them, but every time i have to do it i feel that it will be the last its gonna take !!
QUOTE(tullyfish @ Jul 26 2011, 05:05 PM)

ap25 clearly works but I am not sure MS is totally convinced by it. Needing the pressed disc to be identical to the original pattern has already caused false positives on dirty or scuffed originals.
With the small number of test games with ap25 and the ramping up of the challenges used my guess would be that they are using the later years of the 360 generation to test security for possible use it whatever next gen they are working on. AP25 locking firmware and gen3 discs just seem to me to be field testing ideas, they inconvenience pirates and MS get to see how the scene responds to each innovation.
totally agree here ! its an excellent test field with the a lot of subjects involved with a place like this giving excellent and all all the feedback they need!
just like how the xbox1 gave the 360 the backbone and stuctual and knowledge for security so will the 360 do for the next gen ! the next gen is gonna be a unbelievable challenge !
(unlike sony !!! that company is just a joke, seems like that company just does'nt have any kind of internal comunication !)