Topic: C4Eva: LiteOn Slim 9504 W.I.P. - 'RootKit' Implemented to boot on 1262 (Read 248 times)

Darkflame · « **Reply #15 on:** March 16, 2011, 02:47:00 AM »

I wish I was able to see the thought process he has when he tackles a problem cause he's on it and produces nothing but quality results. Thanks C for what you do. Im grateful to be alive in an era with so much ingenuity.

alanewake · « **Reply #16 on:** March 16, 2011, 03:00:00 AM »

Thank you so much C4eva...you're the best...

fragger · « **Reply #17 on:** March 16, 2011, 03:40:00 AM »

[2011-03-15 09:23PM UTC] #360news <FiB3R> no doubt this will fall on deaf ears, but c4eva, you got any views on the build quality/performance of the different slim drives?
[2011-03-15 09:24PM UTC] #360news <c4eva> cheap

lol

xmstree · « **Reply #18 on:** March 16, 2011, 04:38:00 AM »

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Mar 16 2011, 06:52 AM)

Theres only some games they can add it to, And there will also be a limit of how many games it can be enabled on at a time since its taking up nand space.

AP2.5 is a failed attempt to stop backups unless they find the way that the challenges are getting ripped from the disk and block it that way but then you still have the old drives that dont support it or a firmware can be made but it wont be live safe.

It takes up negligible space, and they can always rotate the games through every few months, even if it's just the popular games. I don't see why they can't simply include an encrypted challenge table on each disc anyway, without taking up nand space. I predict they will increase the challenges used at least every 6 months. This will require reburning/re-buying your games every few months. That will get old pretty quick.

They have enough challenge slots to do this for 20 years+, and they can always increase it.

You cannot use old drives/firmware as the latest dash knows which drive you should have and will block anything else.

I don't think they will be able to block the AP2.5 extraction, as they are simply intercepting the challenge/response. However, they can make the challenges occur at 1hr, 2hr, 3hr, .... 6hr etc so that they become impractical to extract. It is already very time consuming to extract, it will become even more difficult to extract as more challenges are added.

AP2.5 may seem defeated at the moment, but believe me it is a difficult protection, and this will become apparent over the next year or two.

This post has been edited by xmstree: Mar 16 2011, 12:14 PM

Exobex · « **Reply #19 on:** March 16, 2011, 05:06:00 AM »

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Mar 16 2011, 06:43 AM)

You can get banned for using it on a phat xbox so I guess slim would be the same. Its just a risk you take.

[citation needed]

Takashi · « **Reply #20 on:** March 16, 2011, 05:38:00 AM »

Haven't heard of even one instance of that.

itoktoeatfish · « **Reply #21 on:** March 16, 2011, 10:20:00 AM »

QUOTE(Takashi @ Mar 16 2011, 01:38 PM)

Haven't heard of even one instance of that.

People keep saying that you can get banned but I have never heard of it really happening. Im 90% sure those cheap hdds they sell on ebay from china are "spoofed".

robo989 · « **Reply #22 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:00:00 PM »

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Mar 16 2011, 07:43 AM)

You can get banned for using it on a phat xbox so I guess slim would be the same. Its just a risk you take.

Bull.....Shit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Not one report of a ban in the 3-4 years people have been doing this.

danthaman673 · « **Reply #23 on:** March 16, 2011, 01:40:00 PM »

QUOTE(xmstree @ Mar 16 2011, 08:08 PM)

It takes up negligible space, and they can always rotate the games through every few months, even if it's just the popular games. I don't see why they can't simply include an encrypted challenge table on each disc anyway, without taking up nand space. I predict they will increase the challenges used at least every 6 months. This will require reburning/re-buying your games every few months. That will get old pretty quick.

They have enough challenge slots to do this for 20 years+, and they can always increase it.

You cannot use old drives/firmware as the latest dash knows which drive you should have and will block anything else.

I don't think they will be able to block the AP2.5 extraction, as they are simply intercepting the challenge/response. However, they can make the challenges occur at 1hr, 2hr, 3hr, .... 6hr etc so that they become impractical to extract. It is already very time consuming to extract, it will become even more difficult to extract as more challenges are added.

AP2.5 may seem defeated at the moment, but believe me it is a difficult protection, and this will become apparent over the next year or two.

Yes, that's the bad news as suspected some time ago.... To extract/intercept the challenge under such hostile conditions would need something like a 'rootkit' style exploit, I bet it's a SW solution that accomplishes what I had previously predicted we would need. And it all becomes clear now ;-) Good 4 u going for the (free) SW/FW approach. I'm guessing this will also mean that we will either be able to extract our own AP2.5 or wont need to anymore ...

OIf course I will look super-silly now if it turns-out to be a HW solution coming to a store near you :-)

At any rate: Bravo sir, Bravo!

This post has been edited by danthaman673: Mar 16 2011, 08:41 PM

Martinchris23 · « **Reply #24 on:** March 16, 2011, 02:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(robo989 @ Mar 16 2011, 07:00 PM)

Bull.....Shit. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Not one report of a ban in the 3-4 years people have been doing this.

MS can ban your console if they detect it using non-approved accessories. Read the ToS. It doesn't have to happen to be true. Don't get 'can' and 'will' confused.

alwaysonjohn · « **Reply #25 on:** March 16, 2011, 04:55:00 PM »

BACK ON TOPIC:
This is amazing news that c4e has used a rootkit to let his hack run undetected... wow!

Harbinger076 · « **Reply #26 on:** March 16, 2011, 08:31:00 PM »

QUOTE(alwaysonjohn @ Mar 16 2011, 05:55 PM)

BACK ON TOPIC:
This is amazing news that c4e has used a rootkit to let his hack run undetected... wow!

i personally dont give a crap about being banned if c4eva wants a tester send it to me al i want is to be able to boot backups on my worthless SLIM i play on my jtag offline more then the slim which has never been used other then a damn dvd player.. i appericate all the work he and anyone helping him has done but honestly i could do without any teasing updates until its released.. im about to dump my key and put a phat drive hooked up to it at this point regardless of consequences..

ravendrow · « **Reply #27 on:** March 16, 2011, 09:20:00 PM »

awesome work cant wait to see it finished. my only concern would be if m$ somehow found a way to detect it could they therefore brick the drive and say it was an attempt to remove malware from the console ?

DaShiZNiT · « **Reply #28 on:** March 16, 2011, 11:06:00 PM »

QUOTE(Harbinger076 @ Mar 16 2011, 09:31 PM)

i personally dont give a crap about being banned if c4eva wants a tester send it to me al i want is to be able to boot backups on my worthless SLIM i play on my jtag offline more then the slim which has never been used other then a damn dvd player.. i appericate all the work he and anyone helping him has done but honestly i could do without any teasing updates until its released.. im about to dump my key and put a phat drive hooked up to it at this point regardless of consequences..

Your "slim" is "worthless" because it will not play backups? LOL try playing the originals?

robo989 · « **Reply #29 on:** March 17, 2011, 10:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(DaShiZNiT @ Mar 17 2011, 06:06 AM)

Your "slim" is "worthless" because it will not play backups? LOL try playing the originals?

...Originals? What are they

^

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