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xbox360sexual

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« Reply #255 on: November 22, 2010, 07:40:00 PM »
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[2010-11-22 01:25PM UTC] #fw <*********> What I still don't understand though, will you be able to create 'ssv3' from games that aren't ap2.5 atm, such as Black Ops? I mean i'd rather have ssv3 BO if possible, just in case a TU makes it ap2.5, or am I talking shizzle?

[2010-11-22 01:26PM UTC] #fw <c4eva> *********:lt+ will protect you anyway from ap25 violation anyway!


I've had a long read through, and I'm guessing that:

1.) AP2.5 games will still require AP2.5 ss to run

2.) LT+ will prevent the drive from attempting to run a game that requests AP2.5 where the ap2.5 ss it isn't included on the disc, for example a title update (that includes ap2.5) on an SSV2 burned game. You'd need to reburn the game with ssv3, but the console wouldn't be flagged by a failed ap2.5 request.

I'd put the above as:

'game inserted'
'before anything else, dvd f/w does a quick check for ap2.5 request:
'if xex or whatever has no ap2.5 request, proceed to load the game as normal, otherwise if it's going to do a request....
'check game disc for ap2.5ss, if 2.5ss doesn't exist, then...
'abort game load'


This is my best interpretation from the c4e chat log.

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« Reply #256 on: November 22, 2010, 08:00:00 PM »
QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Nov 23 2010, 03:40 PM) *

I'd put the above as:

'game inserted'
'before anything else, dvd f/w does a quick check for ap2.5 request:
'if xex or whatever has no ap2.5 request, proceed to load the game as normal, otherwise if it's going to do a request....
'check game disc for ap2.5ss, if 2.5ss doesn't exist, then...
'abort game load'
This is my best interpretation from the c4e chat log.

If it did do that wouldn't there be a time difference between retail and and lt+? Which would be detectable like with ixtreme 1.6?
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« Reply #257 on: November 22, 2010, 08:04:00 PM »
Yeah, true enough. As I say, I'm not sure, just what I'm interpreting from the chat log. Would be cool if c4e could clarify his statement that "we'll be safe anyway...".
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« Reply #258 on: November 22, 2010, 08:59:00 PM »
or you could go with a JTAG unit and forget all the online bullshit... I've got 3 JTAGs and all have large HDD 2.5 drives and all my favorite game titles on them.. Even AC:B and NFS:HP.  

Just got me a Kinect unit too which works on JTAG units as well...
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« Reply #259 on: November 22, 2010, 09:18:00 PM »
main question i have which i am sure is important to many people is...

even if LT+ firmware was released tomorrow for BenQ/Liteon drives etc, it still almost don't matter without a way to rip AP25 games that support the AP25SS (i.e. formerly known as SSv3) which most likely won't be out for a while in my estimation.

so even if they get a Abgx360 application that supports the AP25SS soon it's going to be a semi pain in the butt as you will have to hold off on burning a AP25 backup disc until the database gets updated with your particular game your trying to burn.

so basically my question is... how long does people think it will be before anyone that makes a .dvd/.iso file that it will automatically include the AP25 data for AP25 games to boot up on LT+? (this is key before the LT+ firmware will be much more usefull for people in general)

p.s. because until some sort of 0800 firmware is out that automatically does the required AP25SS ripping from disc, it's almost like the LT+ firmware is semi-useless. (no offense to anyone but i make a legitimate point (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif) )

so as you can see even for us offline users what i said is a big deal for those who mostly use there backups offline because in general abgx360 does not matter for us offline users but since AP25SS is REQUIRED to even play offline it's obviously a big deal to ANYONE.

technically i am fine since i got a Samsung but i thought i would as this as i am sure there is alot of users that would like to know my question (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

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« Reply #260 on: November 22, 2010, 09:27:00 PM »
QUOTE(Socko76 @ Nov 22 2010, 09:43 PM) *

When it comes to spoofing your Drive:

YOU CANNOT HAVE A SPOOFED DRIVE ON THE NEW DASH!!!  


One quick question:

I am fully aware the new dash prohibits a spoofed drive from reading games, HOWEVER I would like to know if this is also true for JTAG systems with the new Freeboot version (ie, based on KINECT dash version).

Thanks.
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« Reply #261 on: November 22, 2010, 09:30:00 PM »
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When it comes to spoofing your Drive:

YOU CANNOT HAVE A SPOOFED DRIVE ON THE NEW DASH!!!


but the funny thing that contradicts this based on someones comments on here is that you CAN have a spoofed drive but it appears to ONLY WORK if your ORIGINAL DRIVE was one of the ones that does not support AP25 in the first place.

so basically for example... if your system originally has a Samsung drive in it and say it dies and you replace it with a BenQ drive (and use BenQ's v1.2 LT firmware) this supposedly works on new dashboard on Need 4 Speed Hot Pursuit which is a AP25 game.

p.s. i never tried this myself on my Samsung system but according to a post in this thread someone basically said what i just said.

but i suspect it would be possible for MS to check this? (even though apparently right now it works)

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« Reply #262 on: November 22, 2010, 09:44:00 PM »
I was curious today, so i decided to open my slim to see what firmware it was.

Kinect 4gb Slim Bundle
MFR Date: 2010-08-21
FW Vers: 0225
HW Vers: A0A0
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« Reply #263 on: November 22, 2010, 09:55:00 PM »
QUOTE(pmaster @ Nov 23 2010, 05:44 AM) *

I was curious today, so i decided to open my slim to see what firmware it was.

Kinect 4gb Slim Bundle
MFR Date: 2010-08-21
FW Vers: 0225
HW Vers: A0A0


Ouch!
And there're so few around just yet... It's like winning the lottery, just that you lose.
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« Reply #264 on: November 22, 2010, 10:02:00 PM »
QUOTE(Anthares2k @ Nov 22 2010, 11:55 PM) *

It's like winning the lottery, just that you lose.



LoL, Thats the best quote in this whole thread.
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« Reply #265 on: November 22, 2010, 10:04:00 PM »
QUOTE(Anthares2k @ Nov 23 2010, 05:55 AM) *

Ouch!
And there're so few around just yet... It's like winning the lottery, just that you lose.


Really? I mean I don't know that much about manufacturing, but it seems like after a certain date they would all have it.  Has anyone with a kinect bundle actually confirmed that they do not have 0225, or are people just speculating?

I still have my fat, so it doesn't matter that much. I'll just hold on a while for the 0225 thing to get sorted out.

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« Reply #266 on: November 22, 2010, 10:23:00 PM »
QUOTE(pmaster @ Nov 23 2010, 06:04 AM) *

Really? I mean I don't know that much about manufacturing, but it seems like after a certain date they would all have it.  Has anyone with a kinect bundle actually confirmed that they do not have 0225, or are people just speculating?

I still have my fat, so it doesn't matter that much. I'll just hold on a while for the 0225 thing to get sorted out.

No, actually of the few manifactured so far, some were independent units, but most were in the kinect bundles.
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« Reply #267 on: November 22, 2010, 10:43:00 PM »
QUOTE(pwnsweet @ Nov 22 2010, 10:27 PM) *

One quick question:

I am fully aware the new dash prohibits a spoofed drive from reading games, HOWEVER I would like to know if this is also true for JTAG systems with the new Freeboot version (ie, based on KINECT dash version).

Thanks.


I guess I have been out of the loop for a while.. I thought 8955 and any Dash afterwards was eliminating the checking of what drive you had.. I never bothered spoofing anymore and just dropped a new drive in and transferred the DVDkey.. Dropping the checking was supposedly easier for the repair facilities to get refurbs out the door faster...

Then again I don't really know.. I've been out of the loop for nearly a year.. Just got back in after all the Kinect hoopla started.. Now got all my JTAG units updated to 12611 and avatars updated as well.. Don't even bother with the DVD firmware anymore.. I just FTP into my units and uploads DVD rips of the game titles I have.. All Ap2.5 titles appear to be working well on my 12611 updated JTAGs...
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« Reply #268 on: November 23, 2010, 12:55:00 AM »
Feel free to laugh at me, cos this might be obvious (but its not making sense to me).

Lets say i want to play Kinect Games (so will need the new dash firmware) and want to play the latest games (the new need for speed, assassins creed brotherhood, Fable 3, etc)....but i do NOT care about playing online at all.

I'm still screwed until a new firmware comes out, correct? (i believe i have a liteon drive in my 360, its def not a samsung. im definitely running ixtreme 1.61 also).
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« Reply #269 on: November 23, 2010, 01:00:00 AM »
QUOTE(grandparagon @ Nov 23 2010, 08:55 AM) *

Feel free to laugh at me, cos this might be obvious (but its not making sense to me).

Lets say i want to play Kinect Games (so will need the new dash firmware) and want to play the latest games (the new need for speed, assassins creed brotherhood, Fable 3, etc)....but i do NOT care about playing online at all.

I'm still screwed until a new firmware comes out, correct? (i believe i have a liteon drive in my 360, its def not a samsung. im definitely running ixtreme 1.61 also).



A few posts/pages back someone detailed a way to get the new kinect dash without ap2.5. Go ahead and try that. But yes, if that doesnt work, you will have to choose one or the other. Because ap2.5 will prevent you from playing new games even if you stay offline.

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