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[Syn201]

QUOTE(xbox990 @ Nov 15 2010, 06:11 PM)

if LT+ doesn't come for Hitachi, and Hitachi 78/79 support ap2.5. <- is this a fact?

Does anyone think its likely you can spoof a Lite-on in place of the v78/79 Hitachi and pass the ap2.5 challenge with LT+ on the Lite-on?

Does the dash check which drive should be there, or does it just assume the right drive is there a send the ap2.5 challenge? is the challenge the same on all compatible drives?

So basically can you swap an ap2.5 compatible drive for a different make ap2.5 compatible drive and get away with it ?

im not sure how spoofing works ive only ever replaced faulty drives with the same make/model drives. which i assume is ok

No it probably fail the osig check ..

[cironaldo12]

excuse me, I bought a new slim xbox360, 250 gb.
The new lt +, will only be available at Benq player, and then I will have to change the reader?

[thecoo1est]

QUOTE(xbox990 @ Nov 15 2010, 05:11 PM)

if LT+ doesn't come for Hitachi, and Hitachi 78/79 support ap2.5. <- is this a fact?

Does anyone think its likely you can spoof a Lite-on in place of the v78/79 Hitachi and pass the ap2.5 challenge with LT+ on the Lite-on?

Does the dash check which drive should be there, or does it just assume the right drive is there a send the ap2.5 challenge? is the challenge the same on all compatible drives?

So basically can you swap an ap2.5 compatible drive for a different make ap2.5 compatible drive and get away with it ?

im not sure how spoofing works ive only ever replaced faulty drives with the same make/model drives. which i assume is ok

Well I have a lite-on drive with lt, I updated to the new dash and and you know the rest. I dont ever play on live, all I want to do is play the game. I took a Hitachi out of my old rrod its a 58/59 or whatever, I flash the lite on key to the hitachi drive and tried it in the xbox, still gets same disc read error, but the old games wave 6 and below are fine, Anyway, I know you cant get around it that way. If there is anything to do to bypass this I dont care how because I never hook to the internet. I just want something that will work.

This post has been edited by thecoo1est: Nov 15 2010, 08:40 PM

[EZYESS57]

QUOTE(satansgutter @ Nov 15 2010, 09:49 AM)

From what I've been reading the last week or two, as soon as you update to the latest dash you can be flagged for banning, regardless of booting any disc. You can check using XVal 2.0, search the forums on how to use it and where to get it.
I'm happy it should get released this side of xmas!  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Where can I donate to him?

According to C4E's first update, the dashboard update itself seems to be OK, unless I've missed something along the way.

[gamesquest1]

QUOTE(uksparky32 @ Nov 15 2010, 11:59 AM)

Where's this been confirmed?

 was confirmed on here quite a while back

http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=722334

and i read somewhere else that they are now using a similar method for LT/LT+ for slims as it was originally going to be a hardware mod untill this method was found

This post has been edited by gamesquest1: Nov 15 2010, 09:55 PM

[PorquinhoBranco]

So, is there some kind of list of games with ap25?
I´ll be receiving a Kinect next week and I would like to know if the kinect games do have ap25!
I´ve been reading about Fable, AC Brotherhood and Need For Speed Hot Pursuit, but no info about the games designed to work with kinect and launched so far to have ap25!

[willemoke]

Will you get a dirty disc error if you play the origional fable III game?

[TheDarkness]

QUOTE

and Hitachi 78/79 support ap2.5. <- is this a fact?

Not in my case...

Opened up my non-banned box earlier (ix1.6) to check which drive it had. It's the Hitachi 79 (fl). Updated it to new dash via Live a week ago. Was curious to see if back-up of Fable III would run and/or flag it.

Can confirm that on my Hitachi 79, running ix1.6, with the latest dash via Live, plays Fable III no problem. Came back out of Fable and ran XVAL, secdata is still clean.

[rabarone]

So i dont Understanding, its safe to upgrade to new dashboard or not

[gamesquest1]

update the dash it hold no bearing this is all to do with dvd firmware and games themselves

P.s i know i might get flamed with people saying if you update the dash you may get flagged if you try to run ap.25 games on a non ap2.5 compatable firmware, but the simple fact is ...dont try

This post has been edited by gamesquest1: Nov 15 2010, 11:34 PM

[rabarone]

QUOTE(gamesquest1 @ Nov 15 2010, 11:31 PM)

update the dash it hold no bearing this is all to do with dvd firmware and games themselves

P.s i know i might get flamed with people saying if you update the dash you may get flagged if you try to run ap.25 games on a non ap2.5 compatable firmware, but the simple fact is ...dont try

then you think better wait for the new fw, to update the new dashboard

[lrod2344]

I have a question.... and understand I am by NO MEANS a newbie.... but this isa bit confusing even for me....

regarding the discs themselves....

If a disc (Black Ops) that was STORE BOUGHT is SSV2.... and somewhere down the line there is a title update from MS enabling AP25..... this update would be stored on the hard drive as there is NO WAY (as far as I know) for an UPDATE from MS to MODIFY a READ ONLY disc to now have SSV3 on the disc itself..... so if I then take that same disc and place it in a console that did not have this AP25 Update that disc would then revert back to its original SSV2 state.....

Sooooooooo........ wouldnt the same hold true for a Backup of the same game?

Isnt a disc that is SSV2 to begin with ALWAYS going to be SSV2?

Isnt AP25 a Challenge/Response system against the Drive?

Maybe Im missing something here.

what is the connection between SSV2, SSV3 and AP25?

And Finally Is the New ABGX a reliable AP25 check...Ive re-checked a few games and The SIMS 3 doesnt show as AP25 (as reported) Neither Does Black Ops but Fable III and NFS Hot Pursuit DO show as "AntiPiracy25 Media" ....Should we Assume that any iso that "Accesses Personally Identifiable Information PII" are AP25 aware/capable.... or are ALL titles AP25 aware/capable?

This post has been edited by lrod2344: Nov 16 2010, 12:16 AM

[gamesquest1]

right from what i have read ssv3 has actually been stored on the retail disks since fifa 09 c4e and others where well aware of the existance of the ssv3 data BUT MS had not included any ap 2.5 enforcement, i can only imagine this was because the new checks where in testing stages to prevent accidental bans. now the practical side of it is the game xex itself defines if the ap2.5 checks should be done ( i.e compatability flags)
so if a new title update updates the xex to only boot from ap2.5 disks burnt disks would now not boot as they would fail ap 2.5 ofcourse this is all dependant on you actually installing the title update and removing the update from the hard drive would return the game to ap 2.

but you need the latest update to play on live with any game
and you would also run the risk of getting flagged for failing the check

all i get from all this is to be cautious acepting any new title updates....especially if its for no reason and also consider not using any know ap 2.5 games for the mean time , im also wanting to know if there is any definitive ways to check for ap 2.5 within xex files themselves not just going off a list of know ap 2.5 games as i want to be sure they can indeed enable the checks with a title update

This post has been edited by gamesquest1: Nov 16 2010, 01:20 AM

[z24mbb]

i'm not entirely familiar with all the lingo, but i've modded my unit 2x and haven't had any issues.  does a new LT+ coming out mean that the flashing procedure has to be done again? I just re-flashed it about 6 months ago so hoping there is an easier fix.  i'm not looking to play online, just want to play the games....looking forward to being able to play AC:BH in the very near future.

[chrissyd]

nevermind when the LT+ will be released (in its own due time) but is it gonna be free or like we had a while ago with someone trying to milk it for keys?