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Xaian

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3rd Update From C4e - Lt+ Testing "not Long Now" - Ac:b &quo
« on: November 14, 2010, 12:53:00 AM »

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[2010-11-13 03:33PM] <*****> is it possible to spoof our current drives to appear as samsung drives and bypass ap25
[2010-11-13 03:34PM] <c4eva> *****:osig is checked as part of ap25
[2010-11-13 03:34PM] <********> I spoofed 4 o 5 Slims to diferent drives, and only 2 times it don't works with Kinect (Play DVD) However, other slims read all (unless Fable 3 xD)
[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <c4eva> ********:new dash at some point checks slim drive fw, once it has spoof will cease to work
[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <*****> c4eva will LT+ firmware be available to hitachi v79 drives?
[2010-11-13 03:37PM] <c4eva> *****:maybe
[2010-11-13 03:38PM] <******> C4eva have u tested AC brotherhood?
[2010-11-13 03:39PM] <c4eva> yes, i have ac:b, all is good!
[2010-11-13 03:44PM] <c4eva> lt+ testing begins this weekend, not long now!
[2010-11-13 06:24PM] <******> unless u have a hitatchi drive or a sammy, but sammys seem to be hit and miss, works for some and not for others
[2010-11-13 06:25PM] <c4eva> ******:ap25 is checking osig
[2010-11-13 06:26PM] <******> +c4eva - what is osig?
[2010-11-13 06:27PM] <c4eva> original drive signature for motherboard
[2010-11-13 06:31PM] <c4eva> osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
[2010-11-13 06:35PM] <c4eva> its gone past just live, they want no backups booting period!
[2010-11-13 06:37PM] <*******> I read somewhere that this ap 2.5 can be different for each game ... so every new game might not work the same way as the previous one and may need a new fw update?
[2010-11-13 06:38PM] <c4eva> fw will be fine!
[2010-11-13 06:39PM] <******> it'll work for any AP2.5 challenge he said
[2010-11-13 08:11PM] <*****> c4eva fable3 and asasin have same ap25 checks ?
[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <c4eva> ap25 checks are game specific
[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <*********> c4eva do u know why samsung does not have ap2.5 >
[2010-11-13 08:12PM] <c4eva> because it doesnt have the code for it
[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <******> c4eva, AP2.5 - thats a name you came up with or does it show in the dash binary somehow ?
[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <******> that's what the specification is actually called, ******
[2010-11-13 08:13PM] <*********> c4eva, i suppose we will need new software/hardware aswell, to dump the new sectors and inject them in iso ?
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <******> ******, specification that came from MS to game developers ?
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <*****> New 0800 and xbc would be liky
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <*****> Likely
[2010-11-13 08:14PM] <c4eva> yes
[2010-11-13 08:16PM] <****> c4eva, so if ap2.5 is game specific. Could ms implement new checks with an update and render the new drive FW useless again ?
[2010-11-13 08:18PM] <c4eva> ****:fw will be fine
[2010-11-13 08:19PM] <*******> c4eva original slim now can be updated to new firmware and after that it can be LT+ flashed with no problem?
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <*********> how do you dump and test ap25 games for now? is it a secre?
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *******:yes
[2010-11-13 08:20PM] <c4eva> *********:yes
[2010-11-13 08:32PM] <*********> <+c4eva> thanks for all your hard work man, we love you. Maybe consider putting out a non-LIVE version of the FW for those that dont care about LIVE. It would have to be easier on ou.
[2010-11-13 08:32PM] <*****> C4s always been committed to stealth
[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <*****> And im
[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <*****> Sure he is busy enough
[2010-11-13 08:33PM] <c4eva> ap25, live or no live, doesnt matter
[2010-11-13 08:35PM] <*********> my fable 3 doesnt show AP25 in ABGX???
[2010-11-13 08:36PM] <******> *********: Fable III doesn't have that flag
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <c4eva> with new dash xex flag is irrelevant!
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <******> yeah, so that becomes an unreliable method to determine



"all is good" for AC:B means it HAS AP2.5, C4E KNOWS this an is using it to test. I ASSUME thats what hes been waiting for all the time. To see if theres going to be more "challenges" in AP2.5 in different titles. If not I'd expect LT+ in 2 weeks to a month.

"You want false hope or not?"

"Only if you dont have any REAL hope."

This post has been edited by Xaian: Nov 14 2010, 09:13 AM
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bullka

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3rd Update From C4e - Lt+ Testing "not Long Now" - Ac:b &quo
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2010, 02:43:00 AM »

I can image how MS management is pissed of because of just a one person biggrin.gif I think they have a big Security team (both on Liteon side and in MS internally) building the AP25. And just one person hacks it in just a few days.

I guess c4e should be milionaire already thanks to all our donations smile.gif
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2010, 11:01:00 AM »

yeah he has his own private island where he sips margaritas, and has commodore's made into furniture and lawn art, he even "ben hecked" a commodore into a 360, and vice versa
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OggyUK

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3rd Update From C4e - Lt+ Testing "not Long Now" - Ac:b &quo
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2010, 05:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(bullka @ Nov 14 2010, 09:43 AM) View Post

I can image how MS management is pissed of because of just a one person biggrin.gif I think they have a big Security team (both on Liteon side and in MS internally) building the AP25. And just one person hacks it in just a few days.

I guess c4e should be milionaire already thanks to all our donations smile.gif


Funniest thing I've read in a long time.
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xbox360sexual

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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2010, 05:13:00 PM »

Why is it funny?
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2010, 05:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Nov 15 2010, 01:13 AM) *

Why is it funny?


Probably that more people in the scene contribute and not just one person. Either way, its an amazing achievement.
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Retroplay

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3rd Update From C4e - Lt+ Testing "not Long Now" - Ac:b &quo
« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2010, 12:25:00 AM »

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[2010-11-13 03:36PM] <*****> c4eva will LT+ firmware be available to hitachi v79 drives?
[2010-11-13 03:37PM] <c4eva> *****:maybe


I'm keeping my fingers crossed on that one.
Sometimes it really annoys the hell out of me that I was unlucky enough to get one of those 79FL drives. mad.gif
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2010, 12:36:00 AM »

I wonder what torrent site he uses wink.gif since acb doesnt release until 11/16
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3rd Update From C4e - Lt+ Testing "not Long Now" - Ac:b &quo
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2010, 01:11:00 AM »

my fable 3 doesnt show AP25 in ABGX???
[2010-11-13 08:36PM] <******> *********: Fable III doesn't have that flag
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <c4eva> with new dash xex flag is irrelevant!
[2010-11-13 08:38PM] <******> yeah, so that becomes an unreliable method to determine

wht does this mean??

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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2010, 01:27:00 AM »

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Nov 15 2010, 12:26 AM) View Post

Probably that more people in the scene contribute and not just one person. Either way, its an amazing achievement.


I'm 99% sure Oggs is laughing about this part:

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I guess c4e should be milionaire already thanks to all our donations smile.gif
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Biaz

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2010, 02:08:00 AM »

How will this affect JTAGs?
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2010, 05:38:00 AM »

QUOTE(Biaz @ Nov 15 2010, 10:08 AM) View Post

How will this affect JTAGs?


It won't.
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3rd Update From C4e - Lt+ Testing "not Long Now" - Ac:b &quo
« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2010, 06:01:00 AM »

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[2010-11-13 06:25PM] <c4eva> ******:ap25 is checking osig
[2010-11-13 06:26PM] <******> +c4eva - what is osig?
[2010-11-13 06:27PM] <c4eva> original drive signature for motherboard
[2010-11-13 06:31PM] <c4eva> osig is interesting, they took out kernel check due to rrod repairs, now ap25 had to have it,otherwise everyone would be a sammy, now rrod repairs may not boot if osig wasnt updated!
[2010-11-13 06:35PM] <c4eva> its gone past just live, they want no backups booting period!


Does this mean that the original drive has to be in the xbox, for instance if someone had replaced their fecked drive from a hitachi to benq, then LT+ wont boot an AP2.5 game?
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2010, 06:43:00 AM »

If the original drive was a Hitachi (pre 78 afaik) then there won't be any AP25 checks.  However spoofing is also now detected so you'd better replace that fecked Hitachi with another one.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2010, 06:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(Xaian @ Nov 14 2010, 09:53 AM) View Post

[******] is black ops as safe as any other game before the dash update?
[c4eva] ******:yes


What does this mean excatly? Black Ops was safe in the old dash? But how about the new dash, is is still safe, or does it containt AP2.5?
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