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[elcappo]

QUOTE(loggio @ Nov 2 2010, 01:15 AM)

elcappo,

Results for what hitachis are safe will be released as the info comes in, stop pushing people to answer a question nobody knows the answer to FFS.


If you are so eager to find out then YOU should test it and let us know, do the community a favour instead of asking people to take risks for you. The door swings both ways in the community and information becomes available when people put in their two cents.

please STOP ASKING AND CONTRIBUTE, that's what this thread is for. it's not for personal gain. Take it elsewhere.

Loggio.

OK, Loggio here is my CONTRIBUITION!!!
Hitachi 0078FK
NON BANNED
KINECT FINAL DASH (updated on LIVE)
iX 1.51 FW
FABLE 3 Backup WORKS AFTER UPDATE!!!

Here is the PROOF
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4oafPW0zlM

HITACHI 0078FK DONT HAVE AP 2.5
according to this video... hitachi 46 47 and 59 must dont have ap 2.5 neither cause are OLDER than 78
now my question is why ppl said that only hitachi older than 59 have not ap 2.5?

[happysat]

Elcappo is right it works for the 59 rev of Hitachi:

Drive Model: Hitachi 59
Dash : Kinect final, updated via Usb
New Games Working: Fable 3 (working)
Old Games Working: All
Firmware : iX 1.51
Returned to stock pre-update: No
online / offline Console : offline
Banned ?: no
Xval results: clean

[elcappo]

i have a question, someone knows what happened if u apply the update on a Banned console with Xval not clean? or Xval have nothing to do with AP 2.5?

[shawnmos]

Looks like the older xboxs with old drives make it past this update. Updated my 2006 console with no problems.

Results:

Drive Model: Toshiba (Samsung) ms25
Dash : Kinect final, updated via Xbox live
New Games Working: Fable 3 (no problems)
Old Games Working: Only tested Lego Harry Potter, but it worked fine.
Firmware : an old non-stealthed version of xtreme (prior to ixtreme so I can play burned xbox original games)
Returned to stock pre-update: no
online / offline Console : offline only, except to occasionally buy live exclusive games
Banned ?: not yet
Xval results:

[JaseSX]

3.[2010-10-30 03:17PM] <c4eva> samsung doesnt have ap25
4.[2010-10-30 03:18PM] <c4eva> 360s LT+ will include this now
5.[2010-10-30 03:19PM] <c4eva> samsung and some old hitachi dont have ap25
6.[2010-10-30 03:22PM] <c4eva> samsung wont do ap25, it will be skipped (safe)

was known awhile back

[attcshxc]

Not to rush any one but has any one tried with a hitachi 79?

[sdeens2009]

My Falcon flashed with BenQ--LT 1.1 back on (03.02.1010) just took the new Kinect dash yesterday (11.01.2010) and I then subsequently played COD-MW2 on-line succesfully for several hours (the game is a pure rip I personally took with a BenQ-ix1.6--0800 firmware and not that Kreon crap).,,no BAN was observed. But RROD immediately followed 24 hours later on this Falcon.

This evening about 24 hours later (Nov.02.2010) this very stable Falcon is triggering the RROD-3 lights. I have not seen this in over 1 year on this console when I last repaird it myself with my hot air station.

I think this qualifies as a new observation about this Kinect dash udpate and the possibility of sensitivity integrity checks its deploying.

I also must report this Falcon is a former RROD which I replaced the X-clamp 18 months ago and its been running flawlessly ever since and its has taken flawlessly the 8599 and 9199 kernels; Its never been JTAG'd

This is all too coincidental that it finally died alomst immediately after taking the new Kinect dash in less than 24 hours.

I suspect that during the reflashing of the NAND some firmware checksum or integrity check failed and this is no coincidence; Perhaps its checking DVD firmware to specifically log the presence of LT 1.1 in these BenQs, and in some old these consoles (like the Falcons that were previosly X-clamp repaired) it trigger an accidental firmeware corruption error that is displayed as a RROD. Thus suggesting its an unintended side effect that the engineers at XBOX Live did not anticipate. This all speculation, so I need to see if others are getting RROD after Kinetc dahs is taken,

This weekend I will replace X-clamp again, new studs, new Artic Silver compound and reflow the Hana chip, but I would not get my hopes up. This new Kinect dash is not going to be an easy pill to swallow on some of these previosly repaired X-clamp modified Falcons is my humble opinion. I think I have read this happening before to others after kernel updates in rare situations. I was not surprised it finally went back to RROD.

Anyone else go RROD after taking the new Kinect dash with their previosly X-clamp repaired Falcons?


Also for the record,

Falcons have a failry high success rate after the RROD repair; They are much more durable then the Xenons and Xephyrs, so this is a very coincidental RROD failure.

Any suggestions on elmminating my Falcon RROD, short of actually removing the X-clamp, new heat sink studs, new artic silver, and reflowing the Hanah chip behind the GPU?

Something about this new Kinect dash seems to be making my formerly stable Falcon more senstive to RROD that is for sure.



This post has been edited by sdeens2009: Nov 3 2010, 07:02 AM

[loggio]

Your RROD was inevitable. Not the cause of Kinect dash. There is no issue and nothing to prove stating it's even a possibility.

playing COD MW2 was the biggest cause of RROD... Almost everyone playing this game intensely on most old models, would end up RROD. (also caused failure of PS3 machines) It's simply too hardware hungry/intensive, and the original 360 design can't handle it.

The fact that your machine suffered RROD and lasted as long as it did after a home repair is surprising. Any of these fixes are NOT a "fix for good'' solution, only temporary. Unless you took it in to get professionally reballed and attached a much better cooling solution, i doubt it would last any longer than it did anyways.

It is only coincidence. I had 3 xbox 360's ALL RROD repaird, x-clamp/heat fixed, you name it... They all failed again... they always will. If they haven't yet, expect it.

it has absolutely nothing to do with the update.

get a slim. problem solved.

Sorry to disappoint.

This post has been edited by loggio: Nov 3 2010, 08:53 AM

[cdmanga]

QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Nov 3 2010, 07:01 AM)

Anyone else go RROD after taking the new Kinect dash with their previosly X-clamp repaired Falcons?
Also for the record,

Buy a jasper and be a happy man .. =)
Be quick because the model is ending.

I will further test the new dash, but up till now the installation was easy and without a ban.
Arcade Jasper bought 2 weeks, PLaying only Dead Rising 2 SSV2 and XBLA no jtag metody.

[green360]

Drive model: Liteon 83850cV2
Firmware: Ixtreme 1.60 no-stealth
Console: Xbox 360 jasper 2009
Online/offline: all time offline
Dashboard version: Kinect beta 12581 installed by USB drive.
Old games: all working...no problems
New games: Fable 3 doesn't work
......here is my contribution

[rafinhalive]

Just updating day 2 :

Drive Model: liteon 93450c
Dash : Kinect final, updated via xbox live
New Games Working: Blood Drive,Black Ops,007 Blodstone,
Not Working : Fable 3
Old Games Working: All
Firmware : LT 1.1
Returned to stock pre-update: No
online / offline Console : online
Banned ?: no
Xval results: clean


I was wondering, the problem is about timming and etc... from the custom firmware, can´t we install the games on HDD and play from there? because xbox will only check if the disc is in the tray, is this correct? if yes, we can play our backups online without the disc checks. Please correct me if i´m wrong.

Anyone already tested fighters cage? there´s ap 2.5 check on it?

[elcappo]

QUOTE(sdeens2009 @ Nov 3 2010, 07:01 AM)

Anyone else go RROD after taking the new Kinect dash with their previosly X-clamp repaired Falcons?
Also for the record,

Falcons have a failry high success rate after the RROD repair; They are much more durable then the Xenons and Xephyrs, so this is a very coincidental RROD failure.

Any suggestions on elmminating my Falcon RROD, short of actually removing the X-clamp, new heat sink studs, new artic silver, and reflowing the Hanah chip behind the GPU?

Something about this new Kinect dash seems to be making my formerly stable Falcon more senstive to RROD that is for sure.

The answer is simply... your RROD have nothing to do with New Kinect DASH, FALCONS have a higger % of RROD even over the XENON ones. And the worst part is that when u repair a XENON RROD most times it dont got it again, but FALCON most times got RROD and after repair it fail again, and worst most times they are not FIXABLE (specially when the fail is at the ANA/HANA)

[VOYAGERXP]

Drive Model: Hitachi 59 or 78 (can't remember)
Dash : Kinect 2.0.12611.0 updated via Usb
New Games Working: Fable 3, James Bond Blood Stone, Medal of Honor (working)
Old Games Working: All
Firmware : iX 1.51 stealth liteon
Returned to stock pre-update: No
online / offline Console : offline
Banned ?: no
Xval results: Secdata decryption error

My xval comes up with Secdata decryption error since i did kinect update and tried fable 3. Will this only affect me if i go online as i never use this xbox on live as fable 3 and other games work fine. My 360 is a launch xbox that had a sammy in but due to failure i put in a spare hitachi i had from a dead 360.

This post has been edited by VOYAGERXP: Nov 3 2010, 04:46 PM

[vlack]

Drive Model: originally Hitachi 59
Dash : Kinect 2.0.12611.0
New Games Working:Fable3, Fighters Uncaged
Not Working : -
Old Games Working: All
Firmware : original Hitachi 59 was replaced by LiteOn 7xx, ix 1.61 or ix1.61ns cant remember
Returned to stock pre-update: No
online / offline Console : offline,
Banned ?: banned fall'10
Xval results: clean

[clerick]

Drive Model: Samsung ms25 or ms28
Dash : Newest kinect released on live, updated via usb.
New Games Working:Fable3,
Not Working : -
Old Games Working: All
Firmware : Uhh 1.51 I think, I use wave patcher
Returned to stock pre-update: No
online / offline Console : offline,
Banned ?: Never used online
Xval results: clean

Looks like confirmed samsung no problem.