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tomgreen99200

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C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Games
« Reply #45 on: October 30, 2010, 11:46:00 AM »

Thanks for the confirmation C4EVA!! Can't wait to hear more when it becomes official.
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C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Games
« Reply #46 on: October 30, 2010, 11:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(BorisX @ Oct 30 2010, 06:42 PM) View Post

Same boat as you, hoping the new dash doesn't limit us from switching our gamertags between consoles without it


Thats the main thing for people with two consoles. Even though ive played Fable 3 without any problems, i assume its tagged my 360 but thats not an issue since its never online. I do hope i can still switch profiles without an issue.

I know if you put your HDD from a 360 with the newer dash it will update any console its put on, but what if you transfer profiles using a USB stick, does that force a dash board update???
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« Reply #47 on: October 30, 2010, 12:10:00 PM »

Kreon=fail means rips need to be done via 0800 firmware correct? Meaning any backups you aquire need to have been ripped with 0800 for sure?
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« Reply #48 on: October 30, 2010, 12:20:00 PM »

One would assume everybody that tries a game with the new AP2.5 checks and fails because they do not have the yet to be released firmware will be on the next ban list

This post has been edited by krawhitham: Oct 30 2010, 07:29 PM
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« Reply #49 on: October 30, 2010, 12:26:00 PM »

Its hammer time, have fun everyone!!!
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C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Games
« Reply #50 on: October 30, 2010, 12:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(vegasmtv @ Oct 30 2010, 07:48 PM) *

I know if you put your HDD from a 360 with the newer dash it will update any console its put on, but what if you transfer profiles using a USB stick, does that force a dash board update???


not the case anymore mate, seems to be a security section that denies the xbox being updated if its not on official beta, iv been trying to update my flashed hitachi box to try fable 3 on latest beta build, but when i put hard drive on it just boots to old dashboard
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« Reply #51 on: October 30, 2010, 12:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(Muzzakus @ Oct 30 2010, 05:23 PM) View Post

Unless I'm wrong, motherboard + drive brand marridge restriction was removed in previous updates.  Is it back ?

I don't remember hearing about that, so someone else would need to confirm or deny it.
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krawhitham

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« Reply #52 on: October 30, 2010, 12:37:00 PM »

This is going to a gigantic ban wave.

The new checks were 1st found in Fifa 09 on 21 April 2009, one would think every game since then had these checks but continues to run even it the checks failed.  This was done to gather information.  Now with the new Fable game & Dashboard they have started to block games that fail the checks.

So they have been gathering info and users for the a ban wave since April of 09

gigantic might be an gigantic understatement
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C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Games
« Reply #53 on: October 30, 2010, 12:38:00 PM »

The news sucks, but at least we have a heads up this time.
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« Reply #54 on: October 30, 2010, 12:41:00 PM »

QUOTE(moh.sakhaii @ Oct 30 2010, 10:49 AM) View Post

Looks like C4eva delivered again, while tiros said we are dealing with infinite checks, c4eva proved otherwise.
No infinite checks after all, to all stupids out there wink.gif

The number of possible checks is still essentially infinite. That hasn't changed. Whether or not that can be gotten around is another story all together.
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krawhitham

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« Reply #55 on: October 30, 2010, 12:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(moh.sakhaii @ Oct 30 2010, 04:49 PM) View Post

Looks like C4eva delivered again, while tiros said we are dealing with infinite checks, c4eva proved otherwise.
No infinite checks after all, to all stupids out there wink.gif



And how many times has c4eva said his firmware is safe to later get hit by a ban wave?
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« Reply #56 on: October 30, 2010, 12:48:00 PM »

QUOTE(vegasmtv @ Oct 30 2010, 06:19 PM) *

I have two xbox 360s, one for online (Xbox 360slim) and one for offline (xbox 360 512mg arcade with lite-on 8 series drive).

I have been able to play Fable III on the Liteon flashed 360 without any problems. That console i never take online. Having played Fable on the 360 i assume i have been AP2.5 flagged. However as i never take the console online this should not be an issue.

For those with 2 360s, one for online and one for offline, If we wait till the LT+ firmware comes out and put that on the 360 we can then update the dash on the modded 360 and continue to play backups on there.

The only thing is i put my gamer profile on a usb stick and transfer between the two consoles, i hope i can continue to do this when the new dash is out and we are waiting for LT+.

I assume we should not run into any problems? As even if you have played Fable 3, the fact the consoles never online they can not ban it.

I am guessing there are many others out there in my situation, who have two 360s one for online one for offline.

The AP25 challenge failed flag causes gamertag corruption whether your console is online or offline. It doesn't matter if your console has never been connected to Live. If you play any affected game and get the "This disc is unreadable" error, that's it - no more swapping gamertags between consoles. It's not like previous ban waves where your console was flagged, but the actual effects of the flagging didn't activate until you connected to Live and got the "you're banned!" message. Just being flagged is enough now.

If your console hasn't been flagged and you wait for LT+, you should be OK (assuming LT+ does its job), as the new firmware should combat these new checks and your flashed console shouldn't fail the AP25 challenge (which is what causes the gamertag corruption) as long as your backups are 100% spot on.

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And how many times has c4eva said his firmware is safe to later get hit by a ban wave?

No firmware can be future proof. How was c4eva supposed to know how this new protection works before it was even released? They have to analyse how it works (which means it actually has to exist first) and then do things to combat it. I don't see why anyone would give c4eva (or anyone else involved in creating the firmware) shit, because without people like that nobody would be playing backups.

This post has been edited by funksoulbrother: Oct 30 2010, 07:53 PM
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« Reply #57 on: October 30, 2010, 12:48:00 PM »

QUOTE(bucko @ Oct 30 2010, 04:46 PM) View Post

this has been denied by Major Nelson

He would. I'm assuming you will need the new dashboard for kinect to work? If that is the case, then they will have to release it next week and Major Nelson is making himself look like an arse. If you don't need the updated dash for kinect, i may well put my order in.
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« Reply #58 on: October 30, 2010, 12:53:00 PM »

QUOTE(krawhitham @ Oct 30 2010, 10:16 PM) *

And how many times has c4eva said his firmware is safe to later get hit by a ban wave?


And how many times someone else beside C4eva has done something useful for the xbox360 scene??
JTAG only runs on a minority number of consoles so you can not even count that.
Besides, the fact that there is new checks proves that Microsoft can not detect LT itself, but is using these new checks instead. Therefore LT is a success I say.

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C4E Confirms New AP2.5 Checks on New Dashboard with New Games
« Reply #59 on: October 30, 2010, 12:56:00 PM »

So let me get this straight.

Since sammys don't support AP25 they are in the clear?

So sammys are about to become popular?

I have LT'd sammy which is why im asking.
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