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[digipimp75]

QUOTE(Spark @ Nov 1 2010, 01:11 PM)

This is probably why new registration on X-S should be blocked throughout the winter months.

LOL this is the best statement in this thread!     Bunch of f**king retards on here with absolutely no clue of what's going on.

[Hydden]

QUOTE(airjordan22 @ Nov 1 2010, 02:16 PM)

guys i have a questions.. will i be "flagging" myself if i update the new dashboard update even though all the game i play are all RETAIL(original) will i still be on that risk of getting banned?

Why would you be banned for playing only retail?
Unless your box is modded..then why would it be, if you only play retail?

..confused..

[Hydden]

QUOTE(digipimp75 @ Nov 2 2010, 09:41 AM)

LOL this is the best statement in this thread!     Bunch of f**king retards on here with absolutely no clue of what's going on.

Don't you think that's maybe why they came here in the first place?  ...to get information?
Of course, you knew everything when you signed up here LAST holiday season (December) when the ban hammer hit, right?  I wonder what kind of posts we would find if we searched your profile?

Without people helping each other out here, the whole basis of a forum, what's the point?  I hope his intention behind the response was to lock registrations during this time, forcing new people to read everything to find their answers, instead of blindly posting the same questions over again.

So how about showing a little fuckin respect to others and you might get some in return.  Poor taste for a 35-36 yr old anyway, Mr. digipimp.

[elcappo]

i have a question, someone knows what happened if u apply the update on a Banned console with Xval not clean? or Xval have nothing to do with AP 2.5?

[Bearhug]

QUOTE(funksoulbrother @ Oct 31 2010, 12:16 AM)

Non-stealth firmware makes no difference with the Kinect dashboard. Fable 3 won't boot on it and if you try and boot it, your console is flagged and you can no longer swap your gamertag between consoles. I can confirm that 100%.

Does anyone know how we can identify games that are affected by AP2.5? Obviously, if you try and boot it and it says "This disc is unreadable" that's possibly a good sign, but there needs to be a way to identify them before they're booted. Is there a way?

Funksoul.  So are you saying that any console, online or not that fails the AP2.5 check will automatically flag all content on that console (So corrupt it if moved to a non-flagged console)?  What are you basing that on?  Have you actually tested and verified it?

My understanding is that there is currently no issue with AP2.5 checks on the older dashboard (As the dash doesn't include it).  So, if you avoid any dash updates you can at least continue to play all older games and still transfer acheivements, games saves etc between consoles (including a NXE to a Kinect Dash console).  The probelm will them come when games start including a forced dash update.  So at this point, if your correct if the modded console becomes flagged from playing a AP2.5 game your saying I can no longer transfer my profile to that console, regardless of whether it's been conected to live or not.

I'm not saying your wrong, but I was of the impression, the the AP2.5 check at this stage is merely flagging, not banning.  So I'm just curious to how you got to that conclusion.  If it's flagging some sort of action needs to be taken to actually then cause a ban.

By all means I'm not saying that a dash update won't be implemented once the bans are rolled out that does exactly that.  

It's just that I'd be surprised if an older dash becomes uncompatible with a newer dash's files, as it sort of kills compatabilty between consoles?  So I play on a kinect dash console, go over to my oldies with my profile on a memory card and because they're on an old dash I can't use it???  I can't see M$ be that difficult.

[lindigj]

QUOTE(Bearhug @ Nov 3 2010, 09:04 AM)

Funksoul.  So are you saying that any console, online or not that fails the AP2.5 check will automatically flag all content on that console (So corrupt it if moved to a non-flagged console)?  <-- It will flag you for being banned, bans have not gone out yet, so subsequently the HD corruption has not occurred.

What are you basing that on? <-- If you mean the online/offline part, it definitely flags you whether or not you are online. It will not immediately ban you by going online, but you will be flagged on MS' servers at that point.

My understanding is that there is currently no issue with AP2.5 checks on the older dashboard (As the dash doesn't include it).  <-- This is correct as far as we know. There certainly are no reports of any games on the old dashboard of any AP2.5 games not loading. Also no one has reported being flagged on XVal after playing an AP2.5 game on the old dash.

So, if you avoid any dash updates you can at least continue to play all older games and still transfer acheivements, games saves etc between consoles (including a NXE to a Kinect Dash console).  <-- Yes, you can avoid any concerns at all by staying on the old dashboard. That said, you can still transfer saves / achievements, etc to other consoles from a HD that is on a flagged console. No actual bans / corruptions have gone out yet.

The probelm will them come when games start including a forced dash update.  So at this point, if your correct if the modded console becomes flagged from playing a AP2.5 game your saying I can no longer transfer my profile to that console, regardless of whether it's been conected to live or not. <-- Right, he is wrong about that part, no bans / corruption yet.

I'm not saying your wrong, but I was of the impression, the the AP2.5 check at this stage is merely flagging, not banning.  So I'm just curious to how you got to that conclusion.  If it's flagging some sort of action needs to be taken to actually then cause a ban. <-- To add, we actually do not know they will be corrupting HDs this time around. This is merely speculation, and with all the flak they took after doing that in the past, I'm actually speculating that they will NOT corrupt HDs and merely ban people from XBLive and lock your HD to your console specifically.


It's just that I'd be surprised if an older dash becomes uncompatible with a newer dash's files, as it sort of kills compatabilty between consoles?  So I play on a kinect dash console, go over to my oldies with my profile on a memory card and because they're on an old dash I can't use it???  I can't see M$ be that difficult. <-- AFTER the bans go in to effect, this actually will probably be the case. It won't matter if they are on an old dash, new dash, flashed, or not flashed. Your HD would be locked to your XBox to keep you from playing offline on yours and then updating your profile on someone else's unbanned XBox.

[airjordan22]

hi guys,i heard that tomorrow they're doing a ban wave,is it true that everyone who updated to new kinect dashboard is getting banned?

[Gupper]

I know I have lite-on drive but little else (friend sorts the xbox for me). Just to let everyone know I have a retail copy of Fable 3 and my son updated to the new dash. The game does not work, I have checked it on another xbox with the old dash and it works perfectly. On the new dash the game launches striaght to disk unreadable message. Does anyone think that even retail copies of Fable 3 are somehow picking it's being played on a modded 360?

[d2fmb]

QUOTE(Gupper @ Nov 3 2010, 03:17 PM)

I know I have lite-on drive but little else (friend sorts the xbox for me). Just to let everyone know I have a retail copy of Fable 3 and my son updated to the new dash. The game does not work, I have checked it on another xbox with the old dash and it works perfectly. On the new dash the game launches striaght to disk unreadable message. Does anyone think that even retail copies of Fable 3 are somehow picking it's being played on a modded 360?

You should first tell us what firmware is on the drive before anyone would even be able to help you.  Is it Ixtreme 6.0 or LT1.1?

[BlazinGraphix]

This might of been answer I just didn't see a post.

I am running a Samsung drive MS25, it has a non-stealth firmware I believe it is 1.61. I am already banned so I do not care about that. I can boot Fable 3 right now with no issues. If I update to the new Kinect dashboard will I still be able to boot Fable 3 and future AP 2.5 games?

[blacfrost]

QUOTE(blackg1000 @ Nov 1 2010, 04:03 PM)

How do you get the decrypted x value when using Xval 2.0? I'm not sure how to get this.

You need to goto your System Info screen and in the bottom right corner is some number/letters separated by dashes.

"xxxx-xxxx-xxxx-xxxx" something like that, thats your X value you need to plug in.

[blacfrost]

QUOTE(digipimp75 @ Nov 2 2010, 03:41 PM)

LOL this is the best statement in this thread!     Bunch of f**king retards on here with absolutely no clue of what's going on.

If i was on Reddit... id upvote you and the original person that stated this. JUST READ THE DAMN FORUMS ppl... any questions you have, have already been asked at least 1 - 3 DOZEN times... i you dont see an answer.. then there isnt one yet... just be patient. I knows its hard.. ive modded 4 or 5 of my friends boxes and they are all barking at me to get "things" answered..

Its just going to take time.... be patient and wait...

[EarthWormJim]

So as far as we know the old Samsung drives do not perform the AP2.5 check as they have not got the capablilites to do so. Would it be possible to spoof a Samsung to a Lite-on or another drive for example and maybe bypass the AP2.5? Or would it be flagged because the check would expect a response for AP2.5 from newer drives?

Just a thought

Edit
Just read a reply about this on the last page, my bad

[airjordan22]

can someone please send me the link of the website or whatever so i can check if my xbox is flagged or not with ap2.5 so someone please send me the link so i can check,thanks

[StinkyMojo]

QUOTE(airjordan22 @ Nov 4 2010, 03:38 PM)

can someone please send me the link of the website or whatever so i can check if my xbox is flagged or not with ap2.5 so someone please send me the link so i can check,thanks

http://www.xbox-scen...FluvBpsPeAC.php