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hersuri

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New Protections Added to Leaked 12606 and Fall2010 Dashboard?
« Reply #15 on: October 25, 2010, 07:21:00 AM »

I can report that I get a "gamer profile not found" error on a pre-beta dash. My gamer profile is not corrupt, works fine in all other games, just not Fable III. For what its worth my console is banned and "crippled". Perhaps there is another aspect of the new form of security in the game that doesn't recognise "crippled" profiles.
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matt30377

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« Reply #16 on: October 25, 2010, 07:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(DARKFiB3R @ Oct 25 2010, 01:32 PM) View Post

Open the .iso and remove the $SystemUpdate folder. But that is not going to be necessary.


That wouldn't work, would break the signiture and stop it from booting. It would work with jtags but not non- jtags like he asked.

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saint24

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« Reply #17 on: October 25, 2010, 07:34:00 AM »

im on the current beta program dash (official not leaked) and fable works absolutely fine it doesnt work on leaked dashboards only. it checks whether you are on the program on startup and if you arent then it wont load copied games
my drive is on benq lt

This post has been edited by saint24: Oct 25 2010, 02:34 PM
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« Reply #18 on: October 25, 2010, 07:56:00 AM »

someone should remove this topic ASAP or at least change the name!!!!

This post has been edited by ZerOneX: Oct 25 2010, 02:58 PM
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« Reply #19 on: October 25, 2010, 08:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(saint24 @ Oct 25 2010, 07:34 AM) View Post

im on the current beta program dash (official not leaked) and fable works absolutely fine it doesnt work on leaked dashboards only. it checks whether you are on the program on startup and if you arent then it wont load copied games
my drive is on benq lt



I certainly hope it has something to do with the leaked dashboard.....I'd hate to have my Kinect come in and not be able to use it because we can't upgrade just yet.  We need more people with the official release to confirm their results.
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juggahax0r

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« Reply #20 on: October 25, 2010, 09:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(saint24 @ Oct 25 2010, 09:34 AM) View Post

im on the current beta program dash (official not leaked) and fable works absolutely fine it doesnt work on leaked dashboards only. it checks whether you are on the program on startup and if you arent then it wont load copied games
my drive is on benq lt


 That doesn't follow any logic whatsoever....the only thing it won't let you do if you have a leaked version is get on LIVE. The fact that some people can boot their backups on the leaked version proves that. The list of allowed users is not built into the dashboard. I am also on the official Beta test program...my system has no DVD drive though so I can't even play games on it.
 
 So far everything I have read in this topic points to this not being front page worthy news as nothing is confirmed yet about it. Also the fact that the game in question is Obviously a pirated/leaked version. why is it even being discussed here where their are strong anti-piracy rules...their is no question if you are playing Fable III that you downloaded it because it doesn't come out until tomorrow.

QUOTE(matt30377 @ Oct 25 2010, 09:30 AM) View Post

That wouldn't work, would break the signiture and stop it from booting. It would work with jtags but not non- jtags like he asked.

Matt


 What signature the one on the ISO ha ha...no you can definitely remove the system update folder on a non-Jtag modded system so that you don't update. You may need to rebuild the ISO afterwards but what signature exactly are you talking about breaking?
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bobasp1

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« Reply #21 on: October 25, 2010, 09:14:00 AM »

Well according to the comments, the jtag  users are having problems  running the game without having it in a god file or running through xexmenu and patching the xex. Every other method seems to result in the hdd being ejected by the fable III checks *it's still plugged in, but it will only show up if you reset the console* . So protection is most likely added to the xex, but what could they of added to detect bad dvd fw and jtag.
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« Reply #22 on: October 25, 2010, 09:20:00 AM »

Two points:

- This reeks of misinformation and paranoia.  Wait for some real information before hitting the panic button.

- Seems reasonable to assume that any additional media checks could be circumvented with updated firmware, just like always.
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« Reply #23 on: October 25, 2010, 09:49:00 AM »

QUOTE(bobasp1 @ Oct 25 2010, 04:14 PM) View Post

Well according to the comments, the jtag  users are having problems  running the game without having it in a god file or running through xexmenu and patching the xex. Every other method seems to result in the hdd being ejected by the fable III checks *it's still plugged in, but it will only show up if you reset the console* . So protection is most likely added to the xex, but what could they of added to detect bad dvd fw and jtag.



I want to add that i use latest Freeboot with current patches and i launched Fable III in GOD form and it worked, i actually didnt try it with the xex but i will make a iso and of the god and ill try in extracted form. Will update later. BTW i dont think its hard for them to insert some kind of code in the xex, since the non-jtag users cant run unsigned xex.
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« Reply #24 on: October 25, 2010, 01:05:00 PM »

Me thinks its high time to buy a jtag. Anyone know any good and sort of cheap jtags for sale?  biggrin.gif



Also, I guess that Tuesday will pretty much be like 2012 for people with flashed drives.  uhh.gif
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« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2010, 01:19:00 PM »

it has to do something with the xexcutiable. just how BFBC2 was.
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« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2010, 02:03:00 PM »

tbh i have always wondered why MS hasnt just made their own fw reading checker which will do an entire dump to ram and veify the hashs of all areas except the console specific area, only dvd drive they couldnt so it with is the drives they completely disabled readout on even the newer slim 360s have fw readout re-enabled would suck but still that is possible and only work around would be a dual flash mod which redirects dumps to the original fw stored on an extra chip


BUT, as it stands im pretty sure this "scare" is bs noobies with bad rips or dodgy burns, or the inconsistancies wouldnt be there, what we really need is a trusted source to test several diffrent set ups ie original dvd drive with diffrent FW versions, and spoofed drives with diffrent FW's ETC only then would we have the clear picture
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« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2010, 02:14:00 PM »

guys this news needs to be taken down from the main site. It makes XS look very very naive. This news is even worse than stupid rumors.

so many ppl started to panic, ms might actually really get the idea of implementing this kind of stuff into the dash.

me personally, actually I wouldnt care that much since i only play mp games I own online like cod4,5 and soon BO. Just wouldnt like it if ms had that much power to control every single piece of hardware
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« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2010, 02:17:00 PM »

Just to add to data for people to observe:
I am in the Beta program, and have the new dashboard...it updated yesterday, and I have played BOTH the retail Fable3 (which I own-I picked it up at 12:30 Pac time-helps to have family at Gamestop!) and MY PERSONAL rip of the game using a Benq with 800 FW, and they both play and load perfectly. I have a Liteon 8v2 with LT1.2, and it seems fine. As far as my findings go, it appears that either somebody has a bad rip, or bad media...or maybe its only the leaked dash that's missing something in it that Fable3 needs (avatar items...etc)

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« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2010, 02:24:00 PM »

QUOTE(Hoescout @ Oct 25 2010, 01:14 PM) View Post

guys this news needs to be taken down from the main site. It makes XS look very very naive. This news is even worse than stupid rumors.

so many ppl started to panic, ms might actually really get the idea of implementing this kind of stuff into the dash.

me personally, actually I wouldnt care that much since i only play mp games I own online like cod4,5 and soon BO. Just wouldnt like it if ms had that much power to control every single piece of hardware



M$ would of done that a while ago if that was possible
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