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[Dadoo]

I have a problem flashing my first 93450c and I hope someone here can help me. I've cut the traces with a sharp knife (being very careful) and doublechecked that they're not connected with a multimeter. Scrubbed the traces with a fiberglas pen and soldered the wires on.

First time I powered the drive it was fine, started JF and clicked Intro/Device ID with the switch "ON". It went fine, waited 2 seconds, then flicked the switch (as I read in the JF manual.. ). After that windows freezes as soon as I power the drive, doesn't matter if the switch is on or off. The same thing happens with 73450c's aswell if I somehow fail to get it into 0x72.

So I try boot into DOS (using NTFS4DOS) and try l-o-eras.exe. First it says 0x80 which is usually what it says when a 73450c is locked. So I run l-o-eras.exe a couple of times, until it says 0x72.

Then I run dosflash 1.8 in dos, and it detects my drive (only it says unidentified something something, but still knows that a drive is present). I put the switch in off position and press 'r' to read the drive, it asks me what to name the firmware, and I enter a name.bin, but the firmware file is crap.. full of "FF".

What could I be doing wrong? Is there anything in my story that would suggest that the soldering part is OK? Cause I've got quite a lot of experience and I can't see anything physically wrong with it. I was very careful.

Does anyone know why the drive still locks up in windows? With 73450c's it works instantly, as soon as the drive's been put to 0x72 with l-o-eras.exe.
Does it matter if the drive controller is connected to all the ribbon cables or not? I've tried it both ways and neither way works, but I was just wondering

dosflash doesn't work for me if I use l-o-eras first, and set the drive to 0x72. Dosflash will say unknown flash or something. If I repeat dosflash it works, but that seems to be because the drive resets to 0x80.

Dosflash sees the flash chip, and if I use l-o-eras, the ID-code (or whatever it was) changes depending on if the drive is at 0x80 or 0x72, so it definately responds that way.

I can't get dosflash to read anything useful out of the drive, at best I just end up with a firmware with "FFFFFFFFFF..". And if I power the drive in windows, everything locks up, until after about 20 seconds after I power off the drive. I've got a VIA controller, that's worked fine for ages. I tried the mobo controller just now and that doesn't work at all (I have to use the onboard when flashing Hitachi 059's).

I've checked all the solder points manually, and there's no short anywhere and the points are all solid. It's a little late now, but I'll resolder everything tomorrow.

Would really appreciate some input and advice! Thanks (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

This post has been edited by Dadoo: Jan 13 2010, 11:09 PM

[saleem_hacks_360s]

your questions puzzle me cos you say you cut traces bla bla bla then you go on about dos and eloerase.why are you erasing a drive that has not been read? if its a 93450 as far as i know they can only be done in dosflash32 or jungleflasher,i think 93450 has to be done with jungleflasher.

 

you obviously dont know what you are doing,yet you recon you done cutting of tracks etc!yet theres a post by boxxdr about 3 threads down or so and you cant read?

 

who said to use dos in first place?

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[iateshaggy]

i only skimmed through your post tbh, but as far as i can tell, u r foobar'd.  go buy another 360 then come talk to us.

btw, there is a huge part in the jungle flasher tutorial about what to do when you computer locks up while flashing liteon's w/ a via.

This post has been edited by iateshaggy: Jan 14 2010, 12:33 AM

[Bukmop]

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if its a 93450 as far as i know they can only be done in dosflash32 or jungleflasher,i think 93450 has to be done with jungleflasher.

  Not only! Dosflash 1.8 is reading perfectly all new drives.   Im shocked How can somebody erase eeprom until its not dumped!!!!! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/ohmy.gif)

[Dadoo]

who said I erased the drive? Do neither of you know what l-o-eras.exe does? It resets the drive status if you accidentally lock it, which causes windows to freeze.

I have to use DOS, because, as I said (long post I know) windows locks up every time I power the drive

saleem_hacks_360s : What post by boxxdr are you refering to and how would it help me?

[Takashi]

the only post with boxxdr in the title.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=698256

[djbea]

My understanding is that l-o-eras.exe stands for Lite-On erase. It fully erases the drive when windows locks up and causes a partial erase which then prevents the drive from being recognized in windows. So yeah you erased the drive without getting a dump.

[iateshaggy]

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[Dadoo]

QUOTE(Takashi @ Jan 14 2010, 08:21 PM)

the only post with boxxdr in the title.
http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=698256

Oh that one. Yeah, read it about 10+ times. That's how I've cut the traces, used a fibreglas pen to scrape the laquer from the traces, checked for continuity with multimeter and soldered the cables on. Having done 15 or so PS2 slim and 40+ Nintendo Wii's without problem, among other things not console-related, I know I can solder.

QUOTE(djbea @ Jan 14 2010, 08:34 PM)

My understanding is that l-o-eras.exe stands for Lite-On erase. It fully erases the drive when windows locks up and causes a partial erase which then prevents the drive from being recognized in windows. So yeah you erased the drive without getting a dump.

It probably does stand for liteon erase, but it doesn't erase the firmware. I've used this tonnes of times with 73450c's locking up in JF. I just boot into DOS, run l-o-eras.exe until it reports status 0x72 and the drive no longer locks up windows, so it can be flashed.

[totoz]

l-o erase before reading the firmware!
nice one!

buy a new xbox!

QUOTE(Dadoo @ Jan 14 2010, 07:56 PM)

Oh that one. Yeah, read it about 10+ times. That's how I've cut the traces, used a fibreglas pen to scrape the laquer from the traces, checked for continuity with multimeter and soldered the cables on. Having done 15 or so PS2 slim and 40+ Nintendo Wii's without problem, among other things not console-related, I know I can solder.
It probably does stand for liteon erase, but it doesn't erase the firmware. I've used this tonnes of times with 73450c's locking up in JF. I just boot into DOS, run l-o-eras.exe until it reports status 0x72 and the drive no longer locks up windows, so it can be flashed.

yes but u did the l-o-erase step AFTER SAVING the 73450 original firmware
now u did the l-o-erase step WITHOUT the 93450 original firmware saved

This post has been edited by totoz: Jan 14 2010, 08:02 PM

[iateshaggy]

try removing your via drivers the way the jungleflasher tutorial describes and it won't lock up windoze on you next time.  btw you wiped your drive, that is why they can intro after running loe, lo's only go into vendor mode when they don't have firmware on them.

[djbea]

QUOTE(Dadoo @ Jan 14 2010, 12:56 PM)

It probably does stand for liteon erase, but it doesn't erase the firmware. I've used this tonnes of times with 73450c's locking up in JF. I just boot into DOS, run l-o-eras.exe until it reports status 0x72 and the drive no longer locks up windows, so it can be flashed.

For your sake I wish I was wrong.

[iateshaggy]

maybe if we abandon our knowledge base and agree with him it will magically fix his drive?

[totoz]

QUOTE(iateshaggy @ Jan 14 2010, 08:07 PM)

maybe if we abandon our knowledge base and agree with him it will magically fix his drive?

2010 - the year where all modders will dump with l-o-erase and erase with dvdkey32
and why not...we will cut tracks with solder and try to solder with cutter!

[Dadoo]

of course.. you are all right, I'm sorry. I hadn't used l-o-eras for a while and forgot that before I used it, I had extracted the key/inquiry/identify already.

I thought that that was the answer when the drive froze up windows, like so many 73450c's done before.

I uninstalled the VIA drivers and the drive didn't freeze. I can detect the drive in windows and read the firmware... I just wish I hadn't been so hasty with using l-o-eras. Gotta go buy a new box and try again. Thanks for all the help.