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iateshaggy

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« Reply #570 on: July 11, 2010, 10:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(moodcrush @ Jul 10 2010, 05:38 PM) View Post

Hi All.

Well I attempted to do this but I could not get Jungleflasher or DosFlash to recognize the drive.

After struggling with it for awhile, I decided to just remove everything, patch the trace cuts and put it back together. Well, when I powered up my Xbox, the drive would not open. The green light on the power button would continuously flash. The drive didn't seem to be receiving power. I didn't check it with a multimeter.

Anyways, today, I decided to pull it back out and take a look at it. I removed all trace patches and cleaned it up best I could. I've attached a picture showing my butcher job. I slipped with the knife I was using and had to do a little repair. I ran a blade between the traces to make sure they were isolated. I know that it looks terrible but I do have continuity along all traces.

The problem I do see is that there is continuity between the blue and red pads.

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I pretty much gouged out between the traces, I'm not sure why I am getting the continuity between these two traces.

Any ideas or suggestions?

Thanks.


you are supposed to have continuity there.  also, jf very often will not detect the drive, that is no problem, u just intro and go, it will work if you are on the right port.  once repaired, if you have no shorts and everything is fixed, flashing green light is usually cuz you forgot to plug a cable back in or didn't plug it in enough.
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« Reply #571 on: July 12, 2010, 05:02:00 AM »

Thanks for the info. I'll give it another go tonight.
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« Reply #572 on: July 12, 2010, 08:12:00 PM »

Well, I managed to successfully flash my drive.

Thanks iateshaggy, I needed to just 'Intro' and go. The drive was recognized and I was able to go through the steps to flash it. Before doing that, though, I pulled out my multimeter and went through all of the connections. No shorts, continuity where it should be except on the trace I nicked previously. It really doesn't take much to cut them. Once I repaired the trace, the rest was a piece of cake.

A couple of suggestions to anyone considering doing this. First, get the proper tools for the job. I should have just spent the $5 on an Xacto with a fine blade. Instead I used a bulky box cutter and was a little sloppy with it.

Second, try to get your hands on a multimeter. It only takes a minute to check your connections and can save you a ton of time overall.

Thanks to Boxxdr and an everyone who contributed to this thread.
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« Reply #573 on: July 13, 2010, 11:33:00 PM »

So I tried to flash my 74850c today with this method. I flashed my BenQ (banned) right before this so I know that worked and I hooked up my liteon (fully untouched) and it recognized it there too. However after adding all the wires and switches, the computer no longer is able to see the drive. I thought I check all the continuity good.

Any ideas on the problem?
If I get a USB xtractor, do I need a connectivity kit for the drive power or can I just use my xbox power connector?
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« Reply #574 on: July 14, 2010, 07:15:00 AM »

QUOTE(iispyderii @ Jul 14 2010, 01:33 AM) View Post

So I tried to flash my 74850c today with this method. I flashed my BenQ (banned) right before this so I know that worked and I hooked up my liteon (fully untouched) and it recognized it there too. However after adding all the wires and switches, the computer no longer is able to see the drive. I thought I check all the continuity good.

Any ideas on the problem?
If I get a USB xtractor, do I need a connectivity kit for the drive power or can I just use my xbox power connector?


You can still use the xbox as power if you wish to dump the key the serial method.
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« Reply #575 on: July 19, 2010, 03:35:00 PM »

I have just reflashed my drive just to make sure I did my previous flash correctly. I verified my key. i have LT v1.1 on IX lite-on 9c drive, resoldered the board and check so many times for grounded areas which i haven't exposed made bridges over my cut traces reconnect the ribbon cables. reconnected the drive to my xbox power and ATA cables, powered on my xbox and still a NO GO??? this is frustrating my balls off..I've had my xbox apart for months now, retrying checking flashing resoldering, I don't believe I fried my drive...I have a spare hitatchi drive from an older xbox that just red lined and seems like that drive is no good I tried to spoof it, after putting it in mode B and recovering it back the firmware and it gives me a ram upload excuted failed....this is a brand new elite I bought in feburary, I really don't know what else I can do???

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« Reply #576 on: July 19, 2010, 08:35:00 PM »

my only doubt, the switch that you use is DTDP or not?
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« Reply #577 on: July 19, 2010, 08:56:00 PM »

doesn't even have to be a switch, just solder the resistor in and after u intro, cut the thing in half.
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ken D.

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« Reply #578 on: July 20, 2010, 03:20:00 PM »

so I've tired conecting a hitachi drive with just the power connected and it does the same thing as my lite-on drive everytime I power up my xbox it ejects the tray...and when I close the cd tray it opens again....it does this every single time? can someone please help me with this I've been at this for months now...now I'm thinking my xbox is the problem( I HOPE NOT) I still get a flashing power light? anybody?


UPDATE...here's an update guys...so I connectec my xbox to my tv...and I was on dashboard...my controller was connected...one green ring...but my power light is still blinking....but I'm in dashboard tried putting in a game and it keeps spitting out the tray? What do you guys think my porblem might be...do you think it's a grounding problem?

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« Reply #579 on: July 21, 2010, 08:05:00 PM »

Well shiat on toast. Christ man I did it just like boxxdr said but after the resend JF just kept going . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . . until finally failing. So I thought maybe when Boxxdr said "The only thing I changed about MRA was pad 101... all other connections are the same."  that this meant I should keep the 3.3v cxn. I assumed his photos just showed the changes and didn't bother with the 3.3v connection which "stays the sameas MRA".  grr. So I connect the 3.3v too. Tried to recognize the drive and nada. Now the green light flashes constantly even with the drive out. I've done xboxes b4 but this one (93450c) I just got and ... arrgh.

green blinking light rapid.
no recognition of drive
win7 64
driversigning disabled
jf admin mode
any1 know what to do now?
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« Reply #580 on: August 05, 2010, 07:17:00 AM »

Just successfully flashed my 93450c drive, *phew*, there's some tips I'd like to relay, as I was having similar difficulties to people posting in this (and other) threads.  Drive not recognizing as you launch JF?  That's OK, status 0x80 on intro?  That' OK too!  Just click yes on the vendor prompt after the intro fails, pull the power from the drive (easier to pull from the motherboard) and reconnect it right away, status 0x72.... and away we go...

My TOOLS:
Art-Scalpel
18 and/or 20 and/or 22 ohm 1/4 v resistor
patch wire
25 watt crappy shack soldering iron
silver solder w/ rosin core
flux (still not sure if I used this correctly)
de-soldering braid (best 7 bux I spent)
pci sata card w/ via 6421 chipset (not sure if this was necessary)
used xbox for power source

did not use a switch, did not use a multimeter

Check out the rest of my post, I imagine there are similarities among us...

Day 1, I initially had an electronics professional perform the soldering for the boxxdr method (for free, thanks brother in law!), but my drive would not recognize.  I had a promise sata chipset running windows 7 32 bit and neither JF or dosflash32 would recognize my drive.  I tried a 22 ohm resistor, and an 18 ohm resistor, still would not recognize.

Day 2, picked up a PCI Sata controller card, via 6421a chipset, JF and dosflash32 still did not recognize the drive.  Tried a USB to SATA device (which I know now would never have worked) on 3 different computers, one running windows 7 64 bit, still not detected.  Drivers updated/removed, not removed, etc.

Day 3, changed out the switch, from a toggle on off, to a three prong on/off slider switch... still not detected.

Day 4, removed all the solder wires, resistor, patched all the traces with wire, and admitted defeat... drive still worked for retail games.

Day 5, saw some pics regarding pad 101, and how the pad 101 should be soldered with the trace, to the patch wire, I wasn't sure this was done on my PCB, so I took the drive apart again, and sure enough, the pad 101 did not have any silicon removed from it, and the wire was only attached to the trace, it's possible my brother in law thought that scraping pad 101 from the pics was part of a sloppy solder job and didn't do it.  Scraped clean half of pad 101, de-soldered all the previous work with the braid, re-soldered the patch cables, didn't use a switch (just use a clamp tweezer to hold the resistor and patch wire together)...

Hooked up the DVDROM ribbons, used the xbox to power the drive (plug in a/v cable), launched JF, performed intro, clicked yes on vendor prompt, pulled power for drive from xbox motherboard and reconnected it right away, performed intro again, released clamp tweezers (same as turning switch off) JF read the drive fine, wrote the drive fine.

I didn't see a drive show up in JF until the Outro step, after the flashing had completed.

The initial intro failing I think is what's throwing a lot of us off, just click yes and pull power / reconnect power and then check the status!

G'luck!
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« Reply #581 on: August 14, 2010, 10:53:00 AM »

From the JF tutorial it seems that you can directly read the IXtreme LT 1.1 FW from a liteon drive.

I was wondering how the write behaves

1) I have a 93450C  flashed with Ixtreme 1.1, if I want to reflash it then is the Erase with JF (or lite-on-erase) absolutely necessary or can I do directly a write?

2) Havent used JF to much in the past,  is Dosflash 1.8 good to flash Lite-on 93xxx, any known problems??


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« Reply #582 on: August 14, 2010, 12:18:00 PM »

QUOTE(kaldi's apostle @ Aug 14 2010, 10:53 AM) View Post

From the JF tutorial it seems that you can directly read the IXtreme LT 1.1 FW from a liteon drive.

I was wondering how the write behaves

1) I have a 93450C  flashed with Ixtreme 1.1, if I want to reflash it then is the Erase with JF (or lite-on-erase) absolutely necessary or can I do directly a write?

2) Havent used JF to much in the past,  is Dosflash 1.8 good to flash Lite-on 93xxx, any known problems??


Can't edit and need to clarify question 2, I am talking about dosflash32 1.8

3) is the Dos option not possible anymore?
TIA
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« Reply #583 on: August 22, 2010, 09:37:00 PM »

QUOTE(Codymodd @ Jan 3 2010, 09:32 AM) View Post

Here is the NEAR solder less patch i made for the Liteon drives. You still have to cut the traces of course and reconnect with solder after you dump the firmware but this cuts the soldering down to a minimum. The three wires that are soldered together on the patch go to pin holes on the circuit board. one point sets on the pin hole on the trace line before pin 101 spot the second sets after it to reconnect the line after the trace has been cut. the third is the bottom connection. The wire all by itself connects to pin 101. You can add a ground connection if you want just pick any ground pin hole and run a wire from it on the patch. I used syntaxerror329 picture of the circuit board to show where the pins on the patch go because i didnt have a clean board to take pics of i hope that was ok. IPB Image IPB Image IPB Image


can anyone tell me please if this works right whit 94350, acoording to the poster codymodd it was tested whit 83850
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« Reply #584 on: September 05, 2010, 03:57:00 AM »

Looks great, I think I am going to forget about the xecuter stuff and take a plunge biggrin.gif

A couple silly questions if you don't mind me asking

1) So does prepping the traces involve basically sanding down the PCB to have them exposed? Is there anything similar to LENLINE brush (hopefully something more readily available locally in the US) to achieve the same effect?
2) From the pics, I take it the ground part (as in your wording that says "prep the traces and gnd") refers to the extra bits of the board surrounding the traces above and below? Why exactly does it need to be prepped alongside the traces when I don't see anything being connected to it? I could be (and most likely) totally off base here, feel free to correct me smile.gif
3) Without a device like ck3 lite or pro, how are you powering the drive disconnected from the console? Are you using the console to do it? I must admit I feel a bit nervous about the rumors about the consoles detecting this practice and banning you subsequently; don't know enough if there is any truth to it.

Thanks in advance, hopefully I will get to work on it right away sometime tomorrow smile.gif To be sure, I will re-read this article and the relevant sections of the JF tutorial a few more times for a good measure. Any other caveats I should be aware of?
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