Topic: Liteon 83850-v2 and Liteon 93450 DVD Key Can Now Be Dumped? (Read 1191 times)

amak1131 · « **Reply #45 on:** November 30, 2009, 02:45:00 AM »

It isn't much of a debate...methods are always found. PS2 fat was hacked with memory card and flip top. PS2 slim comes and patches memory card exploit and "patches" flip top. Work around is found.

Many PC DRM method were cracked, as with DS and other systems. "OMG, this protection can't be cracked!!!" Next day, it's cracked and well documented.

Can't comment on Xbox, I'm not 100% how it worked...all I know is methods were found, patched and found again.

hetster nailed it right on the head and I agree with him 100%, until the part with agreeing with iriez. Methods will be found and patched, so the only logical reason behind the whining I can see is, as others have mentioned, another pay-for service. I am highly appreciative of geremia for releasing this info. He did the right thing and is will just be another nail in the coffin of "if we reveal our methods, we're screwed".

UnnA^ · « **Reply #46 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:02:00 AM »

With the abilty to now dump the FULL fw, what about already modded drives such as the 7xxx lite-on's? Is it now theoretically possible to get a blank original firmware and insert your key into it to be flashed back on to make it stock once again? I'm not asking how to do it right here and now but to someone with knowledge of the current situation do you think it's plausable that this will be an option or is it a case of "we have already erased and flashed the drive cannot ever be stock."

Thanks all

insanity4all · « **Reply #47 on:** November 30, 2009, 03:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Nov 30 2009, 03:37 AM)

Unless someone beats me to it (or already posted elsewhere), I'll let you know later tonight

Yes, it works on ALL Lite-ons, as they ALL have the SAME MTK chipset.

Radament · « **Reply #48 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:01:00 AM »

QUOTE(UnnA^ @ Nov 30 2009, 11:02 AM)

With the abilty to now dump the FULL fw, what about already modded drives such as the 7xxx lite-on's? Is it now theoretically possible to get a blank original firmware and insert your key into it to be flashed back on to make it stock once again? I'm not asking how to do it right here and now but to someone with knowledge of the current situation do you think it's plausable that this will be an option or is it a case of "we have already erased and flashed the drive cannot ever be stock."

Thanks all (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

Yes, you can restore Lite-Ons to stock now.

micpuk · « **Reply #49 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:22:00 AM »

I'm gonna sit this out and wait for a software exploit (well depends how inpatient I become)

But; I would like to add my thanks to everyone involved in this!

caster420 · « **Reply #50 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:43:00 AM »

QUOTE(Aldanga @ Nov 30 2009, 01:51 AM)

From what I've read the firmware isn't actually encrypted, so there's no decryption needed.

Incorrect. The firmware is encrypted. The key and a few other sectors arn't, so decryption isnt required to obtain it.

Caster.

ccfman2004 · « **Reply #51 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:46:00 AM »

QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 30 2009, 12:43 PM)

Incorrect. The firmware is encrypted. The key and a few other sectors arn't, so decryption isnt required to obtain it.

Caster.

Which explains why you can simply take the dump and load it up into JungleFlasher and the key will be displayed.

amak1131 · « **Reply #52 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:47:00 AM »

QUOTE(caster420 @ Nov 30 2009, 04:43 AM)

Incorrect. The firmware is encrypted. The key and a few other sectors arn't, so decryption isnt required to obtain it.

Caster.

And that just proves they'll never get the security right:D

Syn201 · « **Reply #53 on:** November 30, 2009, 04:54:00 AM »

QUOTE(pigbait @ Nov 30 2009, 08:38 AM)

Like Iriez siad in the Xbox hackers site, this is not a good thing germina just showed ms are cards and and M$ is going to win the pot with a royal flush

lol iriez is a drama queen nothing is unhackable as i have said about 99 million times before
seems mighty strange to me that iriez moaned after the found my site info got released and now since this exploit has become been released moans again amazingly enough after some sites where offering it for a paid fee
so this guy makes money off the likes of me and complains that someone else is killing the scene i thought this stuff was about beating ms not dicking each other out of money it is a sad day in any mod scene when so called hackers charge for there exploits ..

iglitare · « **Reply #54 on:** November 30, 2009, 05:03:00 AM »

QUOTE(amak1131 @ Nov 30 2009, 08:12 AM)

And guess what? Another method is found. That is how modding works: one method is patched, another is found. In the end modders always win, and the "omg we told M$ what to do, we're screwed!!!" is not even worth laughing at because of it's ignorance.

Anywho, GREAT job to those who researched it!

why are all people sure that every time a new method would be found?

For example i can´t see any old or new method at the PS3.
I can´t see any method at NDS or Nagra2 neither.

There are certain things that are unhackable.

vb_encryption_vb · « **Reply #55 on:** November 30, 2009, 05:30:00 AM »

QUOTE(iglitare @ Nov 30 2009, 07:03 AM)

why are all people sure that every time a new method would be found?

For example i can´t see any old or new method at the PS3.
I can´t see any method at NDS or Nagra2 neither.

There are certain things that are unhackable.

NDS has plenty of loaders. R4 for example.

To hell with the PS3.

Never heard of Nagra2 and don't really care to see what it is.

Th3_Burn3r · « **Reply #56 on:** November 30, 2009, 05:42:00 AM »

QUOTE(vb_encryption_vb @ Nov 30 2009, 01:30 PM)

NDS has plenty of loaders. R4 for example.

To hell with the PS3.

Never heard of Nagra2 and don't really care to see what it is.

i think
nds is not meaning nintendo ds

nds and nagra2 are encryption methods for pay tv and they are not hacked yet

Wiki link NDS

Wiki link Nagravision

deilzfcjk · « **Reply #57 on:** November 30, 2009, 05:43:00 AM »

I sense a rise in dead liteon's? maybe or not? You got to get proper equipment. No a hairdryer and heatgun don't count.

staveone · « **Reply #58 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:15:00 AM »

just wondering if this really was a secret way of dumping liteon firmware, known only to a select few
for all this time,why have we never seen a stock liteon firmware which would of been useful during last ban
wave???

caster420 · « **Reply #59 on:** November 30, 2009, 06:23:00 AM »

QUOTE(staveone @ Nov 30 2009, 09:15 AM)

just wondering if this really was a secret way of dumping liteon firmware, known only to a select few
for all this time,why have we never seen a stock liteon firmware which would of been useful during last ban
wave???

The firmware which iXtreme has been based off of and other related dumps of the firmware which were kept private were done by decapping the controller and dumping the flash with a programmer. It was not done by this method and has only just come into existence.

Caster.

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