Print

[UnnA^]

When people say cut the lines, you literally take a sharp knife and cut the lines market then solder them back together when your done?

[stacker69]

QUOTE(UnnA^ @ Dec 1 2009, 06:45 PM)

When people say cut the lines, you literally take a sharp knife and cut the lines market then solder them back together when your done?

I think they just use a conductive ink to join the lines that has been cut.

[kiwimods]

QUOTE(stacker69 @ Dec 1 2009, 08:47 PM)

I think they just use a conductive ink to join the lines that has been cut.

just take a pin head and scratch the rest of the track to expose it then flux and use a dab of solder to rejoin it.

[kiwimods]

QUOTE(stacker69 @ Dec 1 2009, 09:12 PM)

UNREAL!!! Thanks for that. I just found my soldering iron that has a fine tip WOOHOO!!!! I can't wait for the weekend to come!!

One more thing kiwimods, will a conductive pen do the job too?

yeah but let it set/dry

[wes302]

if there is anyone from florida on here i will pay them to have a couple of keys extracted for me. send me a pm thanks

[fatvince]

M$ loses. Again! HAHAHAHAHA!

[caster420]

QUOTE(_MRA_ @ Dec 1 2009, 08:22 AM)

I don´t think this is true, although he stated this in detail in his first post, everyone knew already that we can access the SPI, if it is completely erased. This is how we flashed Liteons ever since the Key was dumpable via serial.

But to be fair, of course Geremia gave the initial kick to me to work further on this method. And with TMFs pinout of the MT1319 and the decap pictures it just took a few hours to get first results. Thank again, especially for the pinout, it would have taken hours to measure each pin on my own.

Again, I know the individual, have seen photos of his decaps and know that is how the firmware was retrieved.  TMF's pinout has been available for a year now and, as you state, we know the the flash can be accessed once erased.  Similar to the pinout, Geremia made his attempts over a year ago, as did others, and was not deemed a possibility.  Thus, other methods, such as decapping, were used.
 
 I am not trying to detract from what you, Geremia, TMF or others have done over the last week or so.  I was simply refuting the fact that people were stating decapping never happened and that this method was kept private.  When TMF discovered it, i dont know, but I can tell you that decaps would have never of been performed.

Caster.

[Exobex]

QUOTE(Toddler @ Dec 1 2009, 02:29 AM)

Thanks for clearing that up.  The verbal sparring over at XBH is interesting, but it reminds me that it's usually best not to ask how the sausage is made.

What a stupid f***ing noob question, if you don't know how the sausage is made you shouldn't be here, go ask your dumb questions on sausage-scene.com.  WE are the sausage hacksaws - sorry, HAX0RZ, you don't deserve sausage.  You don't even deserve to LOOK at sausage.  Newayz, gotta go, mom says it's bedtime kthxbai

- sorry, been reading too much on XBH!

[caster420]

QUOTE(_MRA_ @ Dec 1 2009, 10:16 AM)

@Caster: I didn't wanna doubt your statement in any way! I just meant that the only thing Iriez and co can blame Geremia for was releasing some more info how to access the flash. And in my oppinion even that could be known by everyone interested in flashing. Maybe not so detailed (that the routine just checks the first 0x200bytes for FF) but that was not even important because with my method the routine reads he whole SPI as FF. So to clarify it was not meant to offend you!

I know and didn't mean to make my post seem as though I took offense.  I agree 100% with what you've stated but I still think that is what Iriez was pissed about, although only he can state for sure.

Thanks again for the work and pics.

Caster.

[The Dude Z]

QUOTE(amak1131 @ Dec 1 2009, 12:28 AM)

Doesn't mean much. They could have a whole stock of drives and M$ is not going to trash them all because of a mod. They'll simply ban you when they catch you.

Umm MS doesn't have to trash the drives they would simply need to apply a patch to the FW for each drive prior to assembly in a 360.

I think that is prolly part of why Iriez was upset.
Now all MS has to do is patch this much like they did with the 85xxx V2 drive.
As soon as MS was aware of the back door in the 85xxx FW they patched it and you could no longer use the LO83 dump utility and calculate the key.

For those of you thinking MS won't patch this in the new 9xxxx FW you are sadly mistaken !
It took only a couple weeks for MS to change the FW on the 85xxx version back in end of July to Early august.
So really he is right guys.
The longer you could have kept this quiet the better for the community because the market would have become saturated then with mod capable 360's .
Now it will be patched and leave us all in the dark.
However when he says there is only so many holes he is right to an extent but every time they make a patch to it etc. It could open a new hole that wasn't there b4.
Much like the dash update that was vulnerable.
MS spent a lot of time making that update and the hackers found a new hole in it and unfortunately spilled the beans to MS.
MS then patched the hole and forced the update.
But then years later a new hole was found and it worked for the masses.

Point being this should have been kept quiet for the good of the scene.
At some point c4eva and team will get tired of trying to decap or back door their way into FW's for the good of the scene.
And now this easy back door he may have needed will be gone.

As to the foundmy.com solution and charging money back then.
$40 was steep !
Most modders don't even charge that for the entire mod !

[_MRA_]

Totally wrong, you have obviously no idea what you´re talking about. It is NOT fixable by firmware because we set the SPI into a mode which is documented in the datasheet. There is no way to fix it without using another SPI!

[Exobex]

1.6 for 83850v2 and 93450 have now been released.

Link to topic is on page 12 of the original XboxHacker topic.

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(Exobex @ Dec 1 2009, 11:27 PM)

1.6 for 83850v2 and 93450 have now been released.

Link to topic is on page 12 of the original XboxHacker topic.

What's the point if the firmware can be detected on LIVE.  Why not just wait for LT?

[Exobex]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Dec 1 2009, 10:33 PM)

What's the point if the firmware can be detected on LIVE.  Why not just wait for LT?

Because not everyone's addicted to online gaming?
It's there because people wanted it, nobody's forcing you to install it.

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(Exobex @ Dec 1 2009, 11:42 PM)

Because not everyone's addicted to online gaming?
It's there because people wanted it, nobody's forcing you to install it.

I just thought is would be safer to wait since MS could theoretically add software to the next on disc update to check the firmware.  Not that it will happen, I am just theorizing.