Topic: Team Jungle Tweets About The iXtreme LT Firmware (Read 7576 times)

stacker69 · « **Reply #105 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:32:00 PM »

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Nov 24 2009, 05:28 PM)

I use the Maximus power dongle for 360 from here:

Maximus Power Dongle

I have an eSata to Sata cable that I want to try to use so I don't have to have the side of my PC open. I got to find where I put it first.

Cool!! That's what I have to. Yeah I'm just thinking of how to permanently leave the dvd drive in there or modify an external dvd case and hook it via USB.

xboxofniet · « **Reply #106 on:** November 23, 2009, 11:33:00 PM »

Hi There...

I wonder if something come out of the three C4E's test xbox360 consoles. Could not find any news about this anywhere.

Someone knows?

Thanx

j3ll3 · « **Reply #107 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:50:00 AM »

QUOTE(DWells55 @ Nov 24 2009, 01:11 AM)

Heh, good thing I usually include SplitVid when I make my backups. Unfortunately, I can't be 100% sure all of them have it and I don't keep disc images after I make a backup. I suppose I could re-rip and re-burn all my originals to be sure I have SplitVid, but that seems like a waste.

As long as I get the "please insert this disc in an Xbox 360" message when I put a backup into a DVD player, that means it has SplitVid, right?

Mimesis!1!! lol.. too bad it's dead

Dwells <3

luckily i've always added splitvid.. i'm so smart... because without it's just not a 1:1 backup

i wish ppl would stop blaming abgx360 and c4eva, for making their own stupid mistakes.. if not i'm going to kill these haters

for everyone wondering... SSv2 is included in about each stealth upload in the abgx database..

Blade732 · « **Reply #108 on:** November 24, 2009, 01:54:00 AM »

Hey guys, quick question regarding split-vid. I have a Hitachi running ix1.51 that survived the banwave. Should I be concerned with talk of this patching, or does it only concern the newer drives?

Alize · « **Reply #109 on:** November 24, 2009, 02:20:00 AM »

QUOTE(Blade732 @ Nov 24 2009, 08:54 AM)

Hey guys, quick question regarding split-vid. I have a Hitachi running ix1.51 that survived the banwave. Should I be concerned with talk of this patching, or does it only concern the newer drives?

Nobody "survives" the ban wave lol you either haven't been banned yet (it will come) or you stayed off live during the bans, either way you will need your firmware updating and need to check your discs and make sure they have been ripped with SplitVid enabled.

modslave · « **Reply #110 on:** November 24, 2009, 04:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(The Dude Z @ Nov 23 2009, 11:35 PM)

Changing dashboards and stuff to that effect you would be banned PRONTO!
Anyone who want's homebrew as many of us do want it for stuff like a possible XBMC-360.

If you just want to pirate games anyways you can already do that with FW mods.

If you get banned it won't be as fast as if you completely took control of the console with a new dash etc.

I agree with all you have said. The only 100% solution if you want Live and "backups" is obviously to have more than one console. I guess I just really want to see more come from the JTAG hack and of coarse XBMC360 FTW!! Although with silent XBMC's such as the link below becomming cheaper there are more easier ways of achieving this now than an xbox.

http://lifehacker.com/5391308/build-a-sile...er-on-the-cheap

Back on topic,
I love the firmware updates and think going back to basics is a good move by the team

Obveron · « **Reply #111 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:12:00 AM »

QUOTE

backups need to have SplitVid from now on to be safe for LT

Throws out every backup already made into the trash.

audi_a8 · « **Reply #112 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:33:00 AM »

QUOTE(Obveron @ Nov 24 2009, 04:12 PM)

Throws out every backup already made into the trash.

you know you can check the backups you've made through abgx gui ?

Mexdog19 · « **Reply #113 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:36:00 AM »

I greatly appreciate what C4E and others are doing but I don't understand why everyone is posting this stuff on Twitter or just putting this on blast so M$ can read what's going on. Do they not think M$ is planning something to counter attack this some how since people can't keep their mouth shut about it. It's just stupid to post something like this on a social network site. M$ can find anything and read about it just like us.

Obveron · « **Reply #114 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(j3ll3 @ Nov 24 2009, 09:50 AM)

luckily i've always added splitvid.. i'm so smart... because without it's just not a 1:1 backup

problem is, even with splitvid, it isn't 1:1.

With split vid, L1 video partition is put where it is supposed to be (on L1), but it is was also put on to L0 because that's where all ixtreme fw (up until LT) expected it. This means that the L1 partition can be found in two places, yet the original disc it can only be found in one place (L1).

This is why current splitvid rips are larger in size than non splitvid rips, L1 is in two places. This means the total disc data is larger than the original. Not 1:1.

The only proper splitvid rip is to have L1 video on L1 only, and not on L0. These rips would not work with previous ixtreme fw, but they would be 1:1.
We're still not sure if LT will require this exact 1:1 form or if the previous (non 1:1) splitvid rips will work.

So maybe you're not so smart.

So here's the rundown:

Original disc: L1 data is in one place - L1.

Non splitvid: L1 data is in one place - L0 (this is where ixtreme expected it)

Current compromised splitvid: L1 data is in two places - L0 and L1 (ixtreme can find it where it is expected, AND it's where its supposed to be)

Real 1:1 splitvid: L1 data is in one place - L1 (this wouldn't be compatible with previous ixtreme, so noone has used it)

We need to wait to see what teamjungle does with this new fw, we may still be able to use the compromised splitvid method, if the fw properly hides its inadequacies. Otherwise we'll need to move to a real 1:1 ripping method, and all previous splitvid discs won't work.

MyDogAteIt · « **Reply #115 on:** November 24, 2009, 08:55:00 AM »

Got banned 15 minutes ago!!! FW 1.6, thought I could get the media 2007 update to play avi files off of a USB before actually being detected. But I'm thinking that once the New LT FW is updated maybe I can logged back into LIVE since the account is still active. If not I will not miss LIVE at all, I'll just have to contend with AI in the games I have plus I don't have any games saved to my hard drive. It was fun while it lasted Tee hee. Here's to sticking it to the man....

xbox360sexual · « **Reply #116 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:05:00 AM »

QUOTE(Obveron @ Nov 24 2009, 03:36 PM)

Real 1:1 splitvid: L1 data is in one place - L1 (this wouldn't be compatible with previous ixtreme, so noone has used it)[/b]

So why didn't they just rip discs with the vid data in the right layer, with ixtreme reading from this area?

Oh and also, I thought they "rebranded" themselves as "Team HyperX"? not complaining, TJ sounds better anyway (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

sdboltdude · « **Reply #117 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:10:00 AM »

I thought that spit-vid was being used after 1.4 came out?

i use kreon & xbc to rip ...checked games w/ abgx all passed split-vid check... So is kreon split-vid ok? do I auto-fix anything(all passed abgx) or just wait to see what c4e. says ...worst case delete and start from scratch.

THANKS FOR ALL THE HARD WORK C4EVA & TEAM JUNGLE looks like the testing is going good hopefully in final stage.......

joshualukin · « **Reply #118 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:55:00 AM »

QUOTE(TerminatR @ Nov 24 2009, 04:52 AM)

I don't think that qualifies for 'splitvid'

LOL!

Obveron · « **Reply #119 on:** November 24, 2009, 09:59:00 AM »

QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Nov 24 2009, 05:05 PM)

So why didn't they just rip discs with the vid data in the right layer, with ixtreme reading from this area?

Well it began in 2006 with old xtreme fw reading L1 from L0 due to technical difficulties making proper images and having the FW read it properly. Eventually that difficulty was overcome, but the xtreme FW of the day still expected L1 to be in L0 so ripping methods remained the same.

When ixtreme came out in 2007 alot of people expected this to change and L1 data to be read from L1, but this would cause everyone's xtreme (non splitvid rips) to not work.
I think c4eva and the team decided to continue to search for L1 data on L0 to stay compatible with the old rips. It was a compromise for compatibilty with the assumption that there was no technical way for MS to detect the difference.

Everyone was told that the FW would hide that the L1 data is being read from L0, and that MS would not be able to tell the difference - obviously that is no longer true.
(many people screamed about proper 1:1 support back then, saying it was the only safe way to do it, but alas it didn't happen)

So back in 2007, people started adding L1 data to the proper L1 spot, but they needed to also put it in the L0 spot to stay compatible with ixtreme. The belief was that if a new fw came out that needed the L1 data in the proper L1 spot, the disks will still be compatible. Problem is, the disks were still not 1:1, it had L1 in two spots, making total disc size too big. This is the current practiced splitvid method, L1 in two spots.

Still, we were told that the FW would ignore the extra video data on L1, meaning the extra data would be ignored and everything still appear legit to MS. Opinions divided on that issue, some insisting on making these types of splitvid rips, others sticking with the old non-splitvid method (most didn't know the diff).
Since neither were really 1:1, neither opinions were wrong, noone could say which was best.

We will have to see if the current splitvid method will be compatible and "safe" with the ixtreme LT. It is quite possible that we need to change the splitvid method to a 1:1 format. Or perhaps the new LT firmware will effectively hide the extra video partition. We need to wait to hear more from the team.

I know it's hard to follow, hopefully some of you can make sense of my brief splitvid history lesson.

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