Topic: Frozen Flubber (Read 84 times)

slowmaz · « **on:** April 04, 2005, 05:23:00 AM »

DUDE!!!!!

you have my same problem...try this ...make XBMC your default dash...evoxdash.xbe or whatever you use...

normally avalaunch or other dashes corrupt over time just like yours but for some reason XBMC will always work....

I also thought it was GPU heatting up but now i see from you that that is not the case...

Its not your PSU!!! I just got a brand new psu for 25.00 $ and it didnt fix the problem...but it did fix my burnt out old PSU ...

so use xbmc as your dash and it will never corrupt while in xbmc...but launch another app and it freezes\gfx corrupt...then when you reboot it freezes at flubber..

also best to use a noani\nologo bios like X2 4981 or 4977 with all off so you wont freeze so much at flubber since it wont be there and boot to xbmc.

What parts did you press on the mobo to fix it?

glad to hear you have my prblem

britishseapower · « **Reply #1 on:** April 04, 2005, 09:00:00 AM »

man - GOTTA love this forum. Yeah I read your post the other day and I thought you had the same problem as me! But I didnt bookmark your thread and I cam back to find you but I couldn't but haha...now you found me !!! :-).

Well great...you sure its not my PSU - cos like i say...just touching it a few times seems to resolve the issue...but maybe it will come back again?

Right well. what you say about XBMC makes some sense...cos I dont seem to have problems in xbmc itself....I'm using xbmc as the dash and always have (with this hdd anyway).

So what you're saying is, we still dont know for sure whats going on, but we can get rid of the flubber problem by reflashing a "no flubber" bios?

/me trembles at thought of having to do the tsop flash !

bsp

ps

Whatever this problem is it's GOTTA be hardware, right ?

TKramka · « **Reply #2 on:** April 04, 2005, 02:22:00 PM »

If its after prolonged periods of time, it might just be heat, but if its just random you have other problems like the power supply. I think the HDD is draining too much power from the system, but thats just me...

Unseen Shadow · « **Reply #3 on:** April 04, 2005, 06:20:00 PM »

I also had this problem....i figured it was the EM noise my inverter was putting out.....so i cut that out...(i have a few things hardwired to the psu) And it seemed to boot fine after that....at least until my psu blew..*curses self for half assed hardwiring when really tired*.....sparks n smoke and such.....it was my live xbox too....so i gotta get to a non modded xbox....recover, then cancel my account before may so i dont get autobilled for a year.....i am thinking it was either the EM noise, or maybe i was putting too much of a strain on the psu...so now i have to get a new one

. next time round im just wiring it all up to one molex with a switch.

Unseen Shadow · « **Reply #4 on:** April 05, 2005, 06:25:00 PM »

on payday ill order myself a new psu....and ill let you know if it does the trick

TKramka · « **Reply #5 on:** April 05, 2005, 06:52:00 PM »

Hmm... seems your nice big HD is generating too much heat, try the HD fan tutorial on the main page. A bigger fan in the back would also help, and while your in there, some Arctic Silver 5 wouldn't hurt

britishseapower · « **Reply #6 on:** April 12, 2005, 09:28:00 AM »

interesting...I have a v1.4...I checked under both heatsinks and it did seem a little dry - NO SIGN OF ANY HEAT PAD ! - is the heat pad a 1.1 thing or has mine melted too..

I got some cooling paste today - is this a good way forward for me - do i clean off the old stuff?

I have a suspicion its the HDD thats generating most of the heat..

rwarrin · « **Reply #7 on:** April 13, 2005, 06:23:00 PM »

Ok I put in my thermal pad and fan to reduce the heat on the video chip, before doing this the smaller heat sink would hit 130f within 30 seconds of game playing now it only hits about 105f but box still freezing randomly I know the temps since I have implanted two RTD's in the heat sink. I have the X3 chip in and I have tried a new IDE cable, tried playing off the HD games still freeze randomly usually within a minute or two of game playing if it sit idol it never freezes. So I have ruled out the DVD rom since I changed the IDE cable and played of the HD both and it still frooze. All thats left is the PSU and the mother board itself, I asked a friend that knows allot about electronics if he thought it could be the PSU and he said it quite possibly could be since over time the cap's in them deteriorate and then do not put out a clean voltage and I think like a computer they are sensative to the voltage. I have read around that others have changed the PSU and their problems went away, maybe it was a coincidence but they say no more problems. So that will be next and after that who knows.

thedustycelt · « **Reply #8 on:** April 13, 2005, 10:25:00 PM »

the other chip that is prone to heat problems wich will cause your symptoms is the MCPX chip.

If it gets too hot, the box will start glitching.

You can buy a chipset heatsink and attatch it to the MCPX. I have seen several boards where this took care of the problem...

rwarrin · « **Reply #9 on:** April 14, 2005, 06:25:00 PM »

Ok a few more tests and I have been monitoring the voltages going from the PSU to the MB and when the box locks up the 12 volt drop to 11.9 volt every time. This could be the problem with the PSU it is the only voltage that I have seen drop when it locks up other wise it holds a steady 12 volts this could be a simple capacitor change. I will update later.

rwarrin · « **Reply #10 on:** April 15, 2005, 05:45:00 PM »

The XBox finally just quit today it was powered on and sitting idol and the screen went blank. Now when I power it on there is no audio or video. It does send a signal to the tv but nothing comes up. What even the problem was making it freeze was not the PSU but it was putting a load on it because when it would freeze the 12v would be pulled down to about 11.9v and would not come back to 12v until it was rebooted. The larger heat sink no longer is getting warm so I would imagine the chip is gone or one of the boat load of fuses on the board have blown. I may investigate it further and see if it possible to track down a blown fuse or something.

thedustycelt · « **Reply #11 on:** April 16, 2005, 12:46:00 AM »

I hope your harddrive was unlocked...

Sounds like it is time to start shopping for a new board...

thedustycelt · « **Reply #12 on:** April 18, 2005, 05:52:00 PM »

ebay...

fasmanza · « **Reply #13 on:** June 04, 2005, 02:31:00 PM »

Sorry it took so long but I actually maneged to fix mine that was doing the exact same thing,it turned out to be bad memory,you have to desolder the four Samsung memory chips and replace them with working ones.

Hopes this help.

PS. Sorry for dumping a very old thread,but we must all help eachother.

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