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[PeeWee09]

QUOTE(Syn201 @ Nov 14 2009, 12:34 PM)

yeah just not threw media center
that's the media center in your 360 sorry you have to add everything to media player in windows then go to whatever folder want in dash or use something like tviverst or however that spelt

Sorry I should of said I use tversity, although I still have to sign in to play divx media, will I be able to?

[darklite00]

QUOTE(morgan241985 @ Nov 14 2009, 03:15 AM)

guys this is quite mad, just watchin the news, it said, 'microsoft have taken action against modders and have banned 600,000 users from live, then  it said but they are in the process of making a new stealth to stop detection, thats weird seeing it on the news and the fact they no straight away that a new firmware is being made, jesus christ some modders dont even know theres new firmware being made, now we know why c4 doesnt release details on the new firmware and wats changed in it, just hope c 4 wins this war with microtwats, i know this isnt really something we allready know but i didnt think id see it on the news, just shows that they are going ape shit
its also weird hearing a news reporter say stealth for some reason

Hey not trying to flame you here, not really. I am just surprised you are amazed that the media was able to "find out" about the new firmware. How did you find it? Did you happen to read about it in a forum, maybe this forum that you can view anonymously? .i.e. without signing in. Maybe another forum. Heck even Tom's hardware had something on their page with a link back to this forum about the xell CPU ID trick and a recent post too, btw. Hell MS has been reading these types of forums since xb1. We all know MS is sitting there in their "lab" with modded xbox360s trying to devise a way to "detect/read/query/fill in the blank" modded 360s. Any company would be trying to do that with the prevalence of modded consoles. Let's just assume Microsofts numbers of 600,000 to 1 million are correct. That is a significant amount of xboxs that are modded that are not "paying" for games. Even though live service... and DLC is being bought. Hell in my case I bought a box and got the rrod. Then I bought another one and the hatachi laser went out. Instead of spending anymore money on the dang systems I just modded my samsung and threw it into my box. I knew that this was a possibility of happening. I care that my live has another 8 or 9 months left on it.... but I still got a system that works. I wasn't playing burned games, but now I can play burned games all day long. new ones... and old ones. All the ones I was never ever going to buy I am now going to play the crap out of. LOL. All the ones I was going to buy... I can now burn and play the crap out of. I hope that the new FW is going to work. Hell I might even go out and buy another box. If that one gets banned... no biggie... now I have two of them that I can network and play on two tvs. Yeah some of the MP games will suck without the major game play... but no biggie... setup hamachi or something and form a group of like minded people. Adapt and move on is what I say.... and what most hackers/modders/engineers/technicians and such always say. It is what it is... just sucks when there are so many causalities. LOL.

Darklite

[Jonny Balla]

QUOTE(morgan241985 @ Nov 14 2009, 02:42 AM)

what i dont understand is that if its the stealth checks that caused it then why cant we just use the old non stealth firmware wouldnt this be the same or not just wondering, im with c4 no matter wat,

I'm running iXtreme 1.4 Non-Stealth on Xbox Live with no ban yet. Been playing MW2 almost everday and I even started playing it before release.

QUOTE(hollow_83 @ Nov 14 2009, 05:52 AM)

Guys the problem is not on the stealth checks.

The problem is that at the end of the dash update (the wpa2 update)
the xbox sends the firmware back to Μ$ for verification.

Simple as that, no more no less.

Lies! Explain why I wasn't banned yet? 1.4 Non-Stealth! I originally installed 1.4 Non-Stealth on a buddies Xbox because I "wanted" him to be banned. I was mad at him at the time. After a year of him carelesy playing unverified releases online and not getting banned I relaized this was the way to go. A re-flashed my console about a week ago, possibly even being flagged, and hopped back online. No ban and I fully believe I have been unflaggged. I've been commenting on this since the ban wave started and no one has had anything to add so I've been running my own tests.

[morgan241985]

QUOTE(darklite00 @ Nov 14 2009, 01:23 PM)

Hey not trying to flame you here, not really. I am just surprised you are amazed that the media was able to "find out" about the new firmware. How did you find it? Did you happen to read about it in a forum, maybe this forum that you can view anonymously? .i.e. without signing in. Maybe another forum. Heck even Tom's hardware had something on their page with a link back to this forum about the xell CPU ID trick and a recent post too, btw. Hell MS has been reading these types of forums since xb1. We all know MS is sitting there in their "lab" with modded xbox360s trying to devise a way to "detect/read/query/fill in the blank" modded 360s. Any company would be trying to do that with the prevalence of modded consoles. Let's just assume Microsofts numbers of 600,000 to 1 million are correct. That is a significant amount of xboxs that are modded that are not "paying" for games. Even though live service... and DLC is being bought. Hell in my case I bought a box and got the rrod. Then I bought another one and the hatachi laser went out. Instead of spending anymore money on the dang systems I just modded my samsung and threw it into my box. I knew that this was a possibility of happening. I care that my live has another 8 or 9 months left on it.... but I still got a system that works. I wasn't playing burned games, but now I can play burned games all day long. new ones... and old ones. All the ones I was never ever going to buy I am now going to play the crap out of. LOL. All the ones I was going to buy... I can now burn and play the crap out of. I hope that the new FW is going to work. Hell I might even go out and buy another box. If that one gets banned... no biggie... now I have two of them that I can network and play on two tvs. Yeah some of the MP games will suck without the major game play... but no biggie... setup hamachi or something and form a group of like minded people. Adapt and move on is what I say.... and what most hackers/modders/engineers/technicians and such always say. It is what it is... just sucks when there are so many causalities. LOL.

Darklite

dont worry bout flaming me mate, as i dont even know what that means lol, i wasnt amazed, i just said it was a bit mad,  but yeah i know what your saying, its simple for ANYONE to find this info, all you got to do is google it, but it did suprise me they found out so soon as the new firmware hasnt been annouced long, so they must have someone keeping them updated everyminute on whats goin on, but like you say i dont think its that big of a deal not havin live anyways think of all the brilliant single player games that dont need live theres way more than most crappy mp games, games like mass effect 2. dragon age, assassins creed 2, and loads more, and now we can play without worry too, just go nuts, playin assassins creed 2 now, im not here to try and be clever, im just here to get info and see what other people think, but id like if if some one could give me there opinion on the new firmware and that if it removes stealth checks why cant we just use the old firmware, i know there is a reason otherwise c4 wouldnt be doing it but just would like someone elses opinion
cheers

[Mcegan]

QUOTE(morgan241985 @ Nov 14 2009, 09:08 AM)

dont worry bout flaming me mate, as i dont even know what that means lol, i wasnt amazed, i just said it was a bit mad,  but yeah i know what your saying, its simple for ANYONE to find this info, all you got to do is google it, but it did suprise me they found out so soon as the new firmware hasnt been annouced long, so they must have someone keeping them updated everyminute on whats goin on, but like you say i dont think its that big of a deal not havin live anyways think of all the brilliant single player games that dont need live theres way more than most crappy mp games, games like mass effect 2. dragon age, assassins creed 2, and loads more, and now we can play without worry too, just go nuts, playin assassins creed 2 now, im not here to try and be clever, im just here to get info and see what other people think, but id like if if some one could give me there opinion on the new firmware and that if it removes stealth checks why cant we just use the old firmware, i know there is a reason otherwise c4 wouldnt be doing it but just would like someone elses opinion
cheers

I'm no expert, but I'm gonna say that since he isn't recommending everyone to downgrade, he probably knows of another way they can detect you through that one, that just isn't being used right now since 99% of people use stealthed firmware. Whatever he found wrong with the current stealthed one is probably something he is kicking himself over, probably something simple. The unstealthed one may be so old that he doesn't remember every little thing about it and feels it would be easier to just start over, rather than try to hamfist a patched version of it and finds that he missed something else later on down the road.

[WBones]

QUOTE(Jonny Balla @ Nov 14 2009, 07:36 AM)

I'm running iXtreme 1.4 Non-Stealth on Xbox Live with no ban yet. Been playing MW2 almost everday and I even started playing it before release.
Lies! Explain why I wasn't banned yet? 1.4 Non-Stealth! I originally installed 1.4 Non-Stealth on a buddies Xbox because I "wanted" him to be banned. I was mad at him at the time. After a year of him carelesy playing unverified releases online and not getting banned I relaized this was the way to go. A re-flashed my console about a week ago, possibly even being flagged, and hopped back online. No ban and I fully believe I have been unflaggged. I've been commenting on this since the ban wave started and no one has had anything to add so I've been running my own tests.

It would be interesting to see if thats the case (as c4 did mention that he was removing those checks in the new firmware) however the reason you havent been banned yet could be as simple as luck. There has been over a week in some cases between when I've been banned and some of my friends playing the exact same games and everything have been. Its just luck of the draw. Those who say they are safe by only playing originals are gonna get nailed. This non-stealth firmware is interesting though.

I thought the non-stealth meant that MS was able to just tell right away but since reading this thread I figured out that non-stealth means no stealth checks which I would be fine with since I make sure all my games are stealthed beforehand

[hurley131]

I found this at afterdawn. Just tried it between my banned and unbanned console, worked like a charm. It will transfer your gamesaves and gamerscore.

Transfer Gamesaves/Gamerscore

[ShomieG]

All information for noobs so they can stop asking.... NO ETA, NO UNBAN DVD (lulz) ETC.... http://docs.google.com/View?id=dg89m98b_24cmprv6gz

This post has been edited by ShomieG: Nov 14 2009, 06:03 PM

[purplerose1414]

I just wonder which dashboard update allowed them to do this. I haven't been on live sense the september update, so I wonder if I was flagged then or it was the most recent update...

[zoltrix2590]

QUOTE(hurley131 @ Nov 14 2009, 11:38 AM)

I found this at afterdawn. Just tried it between my banned and unbanned console, worked like a charm. It will transfer your gamesaves and gamerscore.

Transfer Gamesaves/Gamerscore

This seems a bit easier, no?


1. On a non-banned 360, turn on your console with a memory unit that does NOT contain your corrupted game profile.
2. Recover your XBL profile to a memory card on your non-banned console
3. Turn your non-banned console off.
4. Plug in your hard drive/memory card with your corrupted saves to your non-banned console.
5. Go to System settings -> Memory -> (your "corrupted" memory unit) -> Gamer Profiles and select your corrupted profile.
6. Select delete and make sure you select DELETE PROFILE ONLY. FAILURE TO DO SO WILL DELETE ALL OF YOUR SAVES
7. Turn your console off
8. Put it your memory unit with your "corrupt" saves
9. Also insert your memory unit with the gamertag you recovered from XBL earlier
10. System settings -> Memory -> (memory unit with recovered gamertag) -> Move -> Your gamertag
11. Move your gamertag to your Memory unit with your previously corrupt saves and you should be good to go.

[vinz]

QUOTE(zoltrix2590 @ Nov 14 2009, 08:10 PM)

This seems a bit easier, no?
1. On a non-banned 360, turn on your console with a memory unit that does NOT contain your corrupted game profile.
2. Recover your XBL profile to a memory card on your non-banned console
3. Turn your non-banned console off.
4. Plug in your hard drive/memory card with your corrupted saves to your non-banned console.
5. Go to System settings -> Memory -> (your "corrupted" memory unit) -> Gamer Profiles and select your corrupted profile.
6. Select delete and make sure you select DELETE PROFILE ONLY. FAILURE TO DO SO WILL DELETE ALL OF YOUR SAVES
7. Turn your console off
8. Put it your memory unit with your "corrupt" saves
9. Also insert your memory unit with the gamertag you recovered from XBL earlier
10. System settings -> Memory -> (memory unit with recovered gamertag) -> Move -> Your gamertag
11. Move your gamertag to your Memory unit with your previously corrupt saves and you should be good to go.

I don't think your method allows you to keep any gamerscore you've accumulated on the banned system.

[zoltrix2590]

QUOTE(vinz @ Nov 14 2009, 02:46 PM)

I don't think your method allows you to keep any gamerscore you've accumulated on the banned system.

Oh you mean any achievements you get once you get banned? why wouldnt they be transfered?

[ccfman2004]

Now all we need is a way to reinstate hard drive installs without having to dump the nand before being banned and restoring it after the fact.

[gts24]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Nov 14 2009, 09:29 PM)

Now all we need is a way to reinstate hard drive installs without having to dump the nand before being banned and restoring it after the fact.

Are you referring to regaining the ability to play games from the hard drive on a banned console? If I had that ability again I wouldn't even give a rats ass about getting a non-banned console. I couldn't care less about playing on XBL.

[alexmtothemax]

QUOTE(coder_phil @ Nov 14 2009, 02:07 PM)

Can c4eva release some early source firmware(ie pre ixtreme) for us little coders to chew on pls!

Nice try, Microsoft.