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[hessec]

QUOTE(thugnasty101 @ Nov 10 2009, 04:22 AM)

Microsoft was quick with these bans... but we are quicker!!
good work c4eva i hope the new fw is better then ever

So what part in developing 360 firmware do you have?

[moptrf]

i have been online everyday with my backup's on my 1.6 lite-on firmware(up to 10 mins ago), not banned in close to 3 years.

[[_BRIAN_]]

I think some of you are mixing up the FW being undetectable and unreadable.  C4 said the FW was unreadable which if a new FW comes out will still prove to be true.  Clearly there are a lot of things going on at once that is the point of a banwave to cause confusing in the community.  There are bad rips and it also appears but what c4 said that somehow they are detecting the FW is different.  

I want to point out one more time detecting and reading are two different things.  If the FW was readable that would be the end to FW with online capability.  It appears that some response by the dvd drive is different and that is how MS is detecting the FW.  

Also to whoever said they modded there FW and never played backups I call BS.  Why the fuck would you mod your box with the risk of getting banned to play games you bought from the store when you can already do that on an unmodded box.  Clearly you aren't telling the whole story.

[Toddler]

QUOTE(hessec @ Nov 10 2009, 03:55 AM)

So what part in developing 360 firmware do you have?

Same job my boss has, bitching when something's not done yet?

[littlestevie360]

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' date='Nov 10 2009, 07:58 PM' post='4563277']
Also to whoever said they modded there FW and never played backups I call BS.  Why the fuck would you mod your box with the risk of getting banned to play games you bought from the store when you can already do that on an unmodded box.  Clearly you aren't telling the whole story.

my console is modded and has only ever played 1 backup, and that wasnt just a normal backup but the shader hack king kong disk, since then i retained the modded state after updating and never bothered to reverse it, i own all the games that have been played by my gamer tag, and dont have backups of any of them. personally i got it modded because it seemed like a good idea at the time in case i ever wanted to use it, but never got into the whole idea, king kong is the only exception simply because i wanted to see linux on the 360.

[herewego]

what do people think about using their current game tag for Live after a ban.  This is now my second console banned under the same game tag that I use for Live. Wouldn't this make it easy for M$ the next time round to sniff people out? would it be wise to have a new game tag new console?  The option has now been removed but if you logged on to xbox.com you where once able to see a list of console serial's and dates under your tag.

Plus i would like to thank C4 for all his efforts....

[azurik15]

if ms can read fw directly they can see the difference again.it will be not same as %100 like original.xtreme fw bypassing security checks.maybe there are many difference in hex code.There will be still ban possibilities.

[MrGood]

QUOTE(herewego @ Nov 10 2009, 12:08 PM)

what do people think about using their current game tag for Live after a ban.  This is now my second console banned under the same game tag that I use for Live. Wouldn't this make it easy for M$ the next time round to sniff people out? would it be wise to have a new game tag new console?  The option has now been removed but if you logged on to xbox.com you where once able to see a list of console serial's and dates under your tag.

Plus i would like to thank C4 for all his efforts....

This guy is smart.  They can keep an extra eye on people whos gamertags were linked with a banned console.

[ej2095+1]

Lol i got about 8 xbox linked to me which i have sold on

[JohnnyBigodes]

It would be nice, if C4EVA said, that the Firmware was not perfect.

We can read between the lines and i must say ist ok like it is.

Thanks for C4EVA for a new try. He is gona beat Microsoft.

[drkoolbeanz]

Everyone banned has the new summer 09/wave4 disks/mandatory for LIVE play/killer of homebrew update. I think THAT has something to do with this.  Perhaps C and some of the guys that hack nands to run Xell need to figure out what EXACTLY is in that update before proceeding. M$, after all, did re-write the whole bootloader.  

You feel bad about being banned? Think of all of Commodore4ever's 360's he lost. Nobody has spent more time and money on this project then him(them?). Mad props.

[600538411]

This was from #fw(efnet) while I was on if you want a bit more info...

<@[X]nWo[X]> [c4eva] new fw in dev/test - ixtreme LT (Lite Touch) - more efficient , minimal patching , all aspects of fw  indistinguisable from orig, no more bans, No ETA!

<@[X]nWo[X]> liteon will be 1st
<@[X]nWo[X]> we ripped 40+ ntsc games
<@[X]nWo[X]> and ran em though abgx
<@[X]nWo[X]> at least every 3rd didnt verify :c
<@[X]nWo[X]> with a properly ripped ntsc
<@[X]nWo[X]> so the db = defn has problems
<@[X]nWo[X]> madden 10 is a prime example
<Zigtown> [X]nWo[X] does that mean that c4eva admits that the firmware is detectable?
<@[X]nWo[X]> no
<@[X]nWo[X]> he said his test boxes were ok
<jowjowfe> What happened to c4e's 3 xboxes?
<@[X]nWo[X]> not banned

http://pastebin.ca/1664686

[[_BRIAN_]]

QUOTE(littlestevie360 @ Nov 10 2009, 11:04 AM)

my console is modded and has only ever played 1 backup, and that wasnt just a normal backup but the shader hack king kong disk, since then i retained the modded state after updating and never bothered to reverse it, i own all the games that have been played by my gamer tag, and dont have backups of any of them. personally i got it modded because it seemed like a good idea at the time in case i ever wanted to use it, but never got into the whole idea, king kong is the only exception simply because i wanted to see linux on the 360.

Well thank you for posting this.  This at least clears some things up as to why you would mod your box.  Now clearly MS didn't detect linux or the king kong hack or you would have been banned long ago.  It looks like your case if it is true shows that somehow ms detected the FW with some code to read drive response time.

[drkoolbeanz]

People need to chill the fuck out. If you get banned go buy another 360 with all the money you saved. Modding is not for pussies. If you can't afford it, you're in the wrong place and your a whinny little bitch that we don't want to hear from either.  

[Bucket Monster]

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' date='Nov 10 2009, 09:58 AM' post='4563277']
I think some of you are mixing up the FW being undetectable and unreadable.  C4 said the FW was unreadable which if a new FW comes out will still prove to be true.  Clearly there are a lot of things going on at once that is the point of a banwave to cause confusing in the community.  There are bad rips and it also appears but what c4 said that somehow they are detecting the FW is different.  

I want to point out one more time detecting and reading are two different things.  If the FW was readable that would be the end to FW with online capability.  It appears that some response by the dvd drive is different and that is how MS is detecting the FW.  

Also to whoever said they modded there FW and never played backups I call BS.  Why the fuck would you mod your box with the risk of getting banned to play games you bought from the store when you can already do that on an unmodded box.  Clearly you aren't telling the whole story.

Because I planned to use it for backups, only brought an hour ago with MW2.
Modded and played MW2, and got banned 1 hour ago, so don't give me the BS statement as you appear clueless.
The facts are sat in my front room.