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[coder_phil]

QUOTE(logicwatch @ Nov 14 2009, 10:42 PM)

LOL my thoughts exactly  

Errg yes you caught me OMG well done i am indeed a spy!
jesus you guys are paranoid.It doesnt matter about my question anyway I used dis8051 and compared c4evas firmware with original for sammys and benqs and am dissecting as we speak.

BTW I now have 3 banned consoles in my house with original mw2 and dj hero and not able to recover my profile because I have got to buy a new 360 to do that with limited funds,so with all respect FU.

[logicwatch]

QUOTE(coder_phil @ Nov 15 2009, 10:22 AM)

Errg yes you caught me OMG well done i am indeed a spy!
jesus you guys are paranoid.It doesnt matter about my question anyway I used dis8051 and compared c4evas firmware with original for sammys and benqs and am dissecting as we speak.

BTW I now have 3 banned consoles in my house with original mw2 and dj hero and not able to recover my profile because I have got to buy a new 360 to do that with limited funds,so with all respect FU.

hey sorry ! but it was a unusual request asking for c4eva beta still in development " for testing purposes " ?
give the guy a chance he will release it only when hes happy its ready  
since all these bans people will obviously be very cautious when odd requests like these are submitted on the forums  

[coder_phil]

QUOTE(logicwatch @ Nov 15 2009, 10:28 AM)

hey sorry ! but it was a unusual request asking for c4eva beta still in development " for testing purposes " ?
give the guy a chance he will release it only when hes happy its ready  
since all these bans people will obviously be very cautious when odd requests like these are submitted on the forums  

no problem.I wasnt asking for the latest firmware source anyway,just an old one to analyse to try to see if I could help in making a firmware that has a very small footprint.I dont really want to rely on someone elses coding anymore.

[slayer902]

question: if my console is flagged (55420 error) but NOT banned yet ie can still install games onto the HDD, safe to say that i can take out the HDD and use the savegames + profile with another new console ??

planning to buy a new arcade and wait for LT to come out.

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(slayer902 @ Nov 15 2009, 11:33 AM)

question: if my console is flagged (55420 error) but NOT banned yet ie can still install games onto the HDD, safe to say that i can take out the HDD and use the savegames + profile with another new console ??

planning to buy a new arcade and wait for LT to come out.

As long as the console it came from is not banned.

You can install games as long as the console has not received the Ban message yet.

As for buying a new Arcade, make sure you look at the Manufacturing Date.  I would not recommend anything from August on as you might get and un-dumpable drive.  Try for July.

This post has been edited by ccfman2004: Nov 15 2009, 11:44 AM

[Silentin]

Something that I'd like to add is that while I don't think people running version 1.51 are undetectable, I think they are much harder to detect than people using 1.6/1.61.  The reason I say this is I had two consoles; 1 running 1.51 on a Hitachi and another running 1.6 on a LiteOn.  The LiteOn was IMMEDIATELY banned the first day while the Hitachi lasted a whole week playing CoD:MW2 like a madman the whole time before it was banned.

Now the only thing I don't know is if it was the fact that I played a bad crc burn of Left4Dead 2 months before that got me the ban on the Hitachi or that it just took them longer to detect me.  I personally think it was that it took them longer to detect me and had nothing to do with Left4Dead because if they caught my bad burn of the game it would have already been flagged but it wasn't flagged till a week after the ban wave started.  Plus the game was still properly stealthed.

This makes me think that what actually happened was they had to take their time doing several checks a day while I was playing MW2 to finally flag my console because 1.51 only takes slightly longer to respond compared to the real firmware so it's not as easy to detect but 1.6 takes even longer and can be flagged after only a few checks.

Make sense at all? lol

[onlyXMan]

QUOTE(bodybag @ Nov 14 2009, 11:21 PM)

Hi

I reakon the new 360 update probes/queries the drive, maybe send a fake wave to the drive and if flashed with ixtreme it would reject it, however a unflashed 360 would recognise the fake wave....Then sends this info back to MS

It would explain how people get banned without putting a "backup" disk in and explain how the new LT firmware will recognise ALL waves when released....................

I think it's good track. The firmware is indistinguisable for challange/response which are well known for long time, but it's not the same firmware and might be:
1) different time response for some commands (propobly that's why C4e said about some optimalization - efficiency in new firmware)
2) differnent error handling for bad commands send to firmware. Sometimes original firmwares have bugs which iXtreme might fix.

[jt1]

It's great that we have a new firmware in development. However, as with the recent banwave most people going for this option will need a new console, correct.

I haven't been around here in a while however the Liteon III drive, last time I heard was un-modable. Won't we need a solution for this also.

In other words, isn't this being developed on borrowed time, once the new stock is rolled out everywhere, wont we be back to square one.

Unless we buy an old RROD console, and fix that. Opinions?

[kiwimods]

loads of x360 where not banned,  by my estimates only 2-5% of people i have modded have been banned, maybe they don't use live i dunno, but they would love the new lite touch firmware, maybe even swap a few consoles for people that never play on live for people that do with the new firmware, plus im sure the liteon firmware in development will work with the 838 and 935 drives just change the spoof data or something. so when the new drives are cracked the old lite touch will still have a use.




big ups to c4eva for all his time also. most of us see your doing a great job battling the giant. keep it up. were all counting on ya buddy.

This post has been edited by kiwimods: Nov 15 2009, 02:37 PM

[slayer902]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Nov 15 2009, 11:42 AM)

As long as the console it came from is not banned.

You can install games as long as the console has not received the Ban message yet.

As for buying a new Arcade, make sure you look at the Manufacturing Date.  I would not recommend anything from August on as you might get and un-dumpable drive.  Try for July.

thanks man.

yeah the shops round here seem to have a helluva backstock for arcades and even a few leftovers from their feb 60gb pro sets.

[jt1]

I'm not disputing that its a great development. They seem to have found a good detection method, so it's only a matter of time till the majority gets banned, I thought I was safe. I play legit backups, and I'm banned. I did spoof once, but that was benq to liton(my real drive).

I suppose what I was trying to say, people buying new consoles will be screwed either way for backups. LT or no LT.
Anyway, what is the verdict with this newish drive. Is it an encryption problem again or a hardware barrier.

[zoocircle]

I was wondering the same thing. What good is new firmware going to do on "unmoddable" boxes. Currently have an aug09 box just sitting here collecting dust, maybe the firmware will somehow be able to get the key as well.

This post has been edited by zoocircle: Nov 15 2009, 03:32 PM

[jkicsak]

in the real world the 2-5% banned is very low. im gonna say most people who played on live got banned.

[zoocircle]

i suppose I understand. But fact is I never and will never play on Live. I have a 3 year old hitachi box that I've been using, and still works to this day. I've never tried playing on live, just single player and multiplayer with friends in the room.
So as far as banning goes on my new xbox I couldn't care less. I just bought the box because I wanted a jasper with a liteon (even though my hitachi box still works great). Was just wondering if I should reassemble this liteon box and sell it (because it's unmoddable), ya know....

This post has been edited by zoocircle: Nov 15 2009, 03:52 PM

[robo989]

QUOTE(Silentin @ Nov 15 2009, 02:10 PM)

Something that I'd like to add is that while I don't think people running version 1.51 are undetectable, I think they are much harder to detect than people using 1.6/1.61.  The reason I say this is I had two consoles; 1 running 1.51 on a Hitachi and another running 1.6 on a LiteOn.  The LiteOn was IMMEDIATELY banned the first day while the Hitachi lasted a whole week playing CoD:MW2 like a madman the whole time before it was banned.

Now the only thing I don't know is if it was the fact that I played a bad crc burn of Left4Dead 2 months before that got me the ban on the Hitachi or that it just took them longer to detect me.  I personally think it was that it took them longer to detect me and had nothing to do with Left4Dead because if they caught my bad burn of the game it would have already been flagged but it wasn't flagged till a week after the ban wave started.  Plus the game was still properly stealthed.

This makes me think that what actually happened was they had to take their time doing several checks a day while I was playing MW2 to finally flag my console because 1.51 only takes slightly longer to respond compared to the real firmware so it's not as easy to detect but 1.6 takes even longer and can be flagged after only a few checks.

Make sense at all? lol

Nice of you to take the time to type all that, but you wasted 5 mins of your life because you're comparing what?.....2 consoles?

Big deal my spoofed Benq drive as an hitachi didn't get banned for a few days yet my other box with a benq that wasn't spoofed got banned straight away...tho it escaped the last ban wave....What's all this ridiculous speculation about? Just let C4E get on with his magic and quit with the pseudo intellectual analysis already.