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jkicsak

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« Reply #600 on: November 13, 2009, 07:03:00 PM »

yea its maxed out  (IMG:style_emoticons/default/mad.gif)
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« Reply #601 on: November 13, 2009, 07:13:00 PM »

QUOTE(stern @ Nov 13 2009, 08:26 PM) View Post

<+c4eva> ixtreme LT is coming along nicely, it has been a GREAT day! hang in there!
<+c4eva> ixtreme LT does not care about waves, as per orig fw smile.gif
<+c4eva> LT will assume disk has correct stealth!
<LinkK> MS will be able to detect LT also
<+c4eva> linnk:no!
<+c4eva> behaviour of ixtreme is detectable on backups!
<+c4eva> xtreme wont help!
<+c4eva> i cant say any more for obvious reasons! smile.gif

Does this mean that the stealth checks that the Ixtreme fw does are how MS detected the firmware? By removing that stealth check you're removing the one thing that Ixtreme does differently to original firmware.

This would mean the safety feature built into IX was the very thing that caused its downfall.

Would also explain the "lite" name if the stealth checks are removed. The responsibility for making sure your rip is good is down to the user.


this is really good news to hear, and especially that there will be no more wave checks... all we have to do to help the firmware is to check our games more responsibly and make sure they are good in stealth form and we should be good smile.gif.... iam really happy to hear that the firmware is in such good shape and looks so much like the original Fw.... this would mean that we should have a whole 1 year ahead of us that's good wink.gif until next November, xbox 360 doomsday 2010.... until then,  pop.gif
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« Reply #602 on: November 13, 2009, 07:23:00 PM »

QUOTE(ste030 @ Nov 14 2009, 04:03 AM) View Post

doubt that will work, your console id/ cpu key or mac address will prob be stored by microsoft so having a new account will not make any difference

yeh but it would help in not sending any recent offline gameplay

say if i made 2 backups of my xbox game, would I have to run the backed up file twice thru ABGX if I was going to burn my copy twice for each occasion I burnt it. Its because my children are silly with my games. i dont wantr them touching my original discs
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« Reply #603 on: November 13, 2009, 07:29:00 PM »

<+c4eva> ixtreme LT is coming along nicely, it has been a GREAT day! hang in there!
<+c4eva> ixtreme LT does not care about waves, as per orig fw smile.gif
<+c4eva> LT will assume disk has correct stealth!
<LinkK> MS will be able to detect LT also
<+c4eva> linnk:no!
<+c4eva> behaviour of ixtreme is detectable on backups!
<+c4eva> xtreme wont help!
<+c4eva> i cant say any more for obvious reasons! smile.gif

First WELL done and awesome work C4
So maybe we can expect more info today or something?
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Jonny Balla

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« Reply #604 on: November 13, 2009, 07:36:00 PM »

This iXtreme LT is sounding very much like iXtreme version 1.4 Non-Stealth - the very firmware that I am running on Xbox Live RIGHT NOW with no ban yet. It does indeed seem that the stealth checks are what did most users in.
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desta

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« Reply #605 on: November 13, 2009, 07:36:00 PM »

QUOTE(xbox360sexual @ Nov 14 2009, 03:42 AM) View Post

#fw on EFNet

But yeah, seems like the stealth checks are what caused bans. Ironic really! smile.gif

I'm not entirely sure that's what c4e is saying. Obviously I could be wrong though.
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« Reply #606 on: November 13, 2009, 08:44:00 PM »

This FW sounds fantastic - trouble is, many of us are 'flagged' and don't know what will happen.  I know I am flagged but have kept off live and haven't put a disc in the drive for nearly 3 weeks now, so haven't done the 'disc check'.  If I use this new LT FW, and it reports back that it's original FW, there's a chance my flag may disappear?  Who knows?
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ste030

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« Reply #607 on: November 13, 2009, 08:58:00 PM »

QUOTE(jimmywalker @ Nov 14 2009, 03:44 AM) View Post

This FW sounds fantastic - trouble is, many of us are 'flagged' and don't know what will happen.  I know I am flagged but have kept off live and haven't put a disc in the drive for nearly 3 weeks now, so haven't done the 'disc check'.  If I use this new LT FW, and it reports back that it's original FW, there's a chance my flag may disappear?  Who knows?


Not worked for many people who flashed bk 2 orig fw so doubt it.... wud be good cz my 2 consoles would be saved smile.gif

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« Reply #608 on: November 13, 2009, 09:27:00 PM »

I just got banned today.  Dont know how long I've been flagged if at all.  Played a wave 4 game for the first time using Lite-On 1.6 and activate disc offline on a fake profile.  As soon as I tried to connect to Live using my real profile, BANNED.  I think if I hadnt tried that wave 4 game, I would have bought myself some more time, but oh well.  I knew the risk.  I'll just go buy a different one from a pawn shop or something and wait for the new firmware.  Tomorrow I'm calling to cancel my gold membership.
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« Reply #609 on: November 13, 2009, 09:34:00 PM »

I know this is off topic, but I think it's about time some one creates a non-XBL network so all those who are banned can play on a non-M$ network and tell them to fuck off with their ban waves. When you got 20 million 360's worldwide, why the fuck worry about some niche group that plays with backups or pirated games..

stop charging $50-70 for a god damn game and maybe not so many of us would make backups.. and don't give this shit that the game developers need to get paid... they get paid well in advance for their coding skills. I'm willing to bet that CODMW2 was funded by the DOD. With the trillions they claim they can't account for I'm sure most of these war game simulator game design shops have gotten some of that money...
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« Reply #610 on: November 13, 2009, 10:13:00 PM »

QUOTE(xboxer360 @ Nov 10 2009, 01:54 AM) View Post

just because some rips aren't in the database doesn't mean it's bad.
it's obvious MS has been detecting the firmware, and even more obvious now that ix LT is getting released.


thats not what he's saying dude, do you think he'd be that much of a noobcake to confuse, "not verifying with DB" versus "not passing all the valid checks" (AKA Lvl 1 verification), regardless of if there is an entry for that personal rip online?

cmon.. these are two different things and most people don't understand this. A ripped game should RARELY match online SS info!!! Its not supposed to, because the ABGX online DB is for Scene releases.. NOT for your own backups which could be very diff from the ones the scene decides to put out there. Mind you, I'm saying, the FUNCTIONALITY of the ONLINE DB.. not the software itself.

LOADS of people (i mean come on, just look at the irc channel for ABGX) don't really understand what they are getting themselves into when they decided to mod or even worse let someone else mod for them.. and therefore this goes to show you a lot of people earn their bans, regardless of firmware detection.

Another thing, i'm pretty sure the firmware WAS undetectable.. for a while untill updates from MS made it detectable.. so there is nothing wrong with C4EVA's statement, or if you want to flip it around, his statement is wrong.. its just ambigious..

QUOTE(ImRickJamesB1tch @ Nov 10 2009, 01:59 AM) View Post

I thought iXtreme was always like that? That it was a replica of the original barring a few small changes?
Looks like it was iXtreme that was causing the bans. If it was due to bad rips, there is nothing the firmware can do to stop it, meaning iXtreme LT wouldn't make a difference.


ughhh :X

man, what he is saying BEFORE.. (think about pre-lite on) all xboxs had diff drives which were all improvements on their predecessing generation's dvd readers. When iExtreme came out, they knew that MS could not ritefully read the firmware and therefore catch you redhanded with a modded drive.. BUT they knew they could possibly detect modded discs.. and so, ABGX was born, now.... we skip forward a year to 08' or so and we have a new xbox, with a new drive, made specifically to be able to read whats in the firmware.. and after many attempts to catch modders before by releasing WAVE security updates, the guys who make the firmware keep updating their firmware to make it as safe as possible in order to prevent it being fully detectable.. BUT now.. we see MS has finally found a way to detect the firmware, using something they had never done before.. so what do the hackers do? make NEW firmware, to patch up the newly found detection method MS has.. This is the way it ALWAYS work here. iExtreme WILL make a difference, just like 1.5+ made a diff from 1.3 and 1.4..  ok? The irony of this all is that according to what C4EVA has told us, its the stealth checks of the latest firmwares which have caused the bans.. meaning that the latest one will not have any protection and require the user to assume all responsability in checking their backups. This means it will behave just like original firmware.. and report just like original firmware. Which is what we want!! and that should cover us from bans.. at least on the firmware side.. now this is where all the ABGX users who don't know what they are doing will fail.. and be banned again.

QUOTE(logicwatch @ Nov 10 2009, 03:36 AM) View Post

as always C4eva we are grateful for anything we receive . banned or not  , without your free firmware over the years  none of us would of been able to enjoy the modding community worldwide !
thank you  biggrin.gif



You sir are a true community gentleman! ARRR MATEE!!!!

And a ditto to that amazing post.  biggrin.gif

QUOTE(d05register @ Nov 13 2009, 03:17 PM) View Post

I agree with you... My question was ironic. I said that SAMSUNG fw is going unencrypted on a link, and someone above wrote "c4eva says LiteOn fw is easier to be detected" and I ask ironically "How more detectable can a LiteOn be if MS can read the WHOLE fw (from the other drives)???"

No surprise for me... One of the well known BS of c4eva....

You got my point. I am not going to talk anymore. DO THE TEST FOR YOURSELF... It's just packet sniffing...
Connect the xbox with the PC, PC with the rooter and sniff the bridged connection...


Man some people seriously surprise me. He says that stating a FACT because the Lite-On drive was introduced in order to be able to have the firmware read man. MS put it in, just like all other drive revisions to prevent modification.. and the Lite-On was MADE to be able to dump FW and detect it on the go, but Hackers, persistant as they are, have always found a way around it... so before you go jump on someone calling BS.. educate a bit, chillout and type www.google.com
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« Reply #611 on: November 13, 2009, 10:52:00 PM »

Just got banned today. I have not played ANY WAVE 4 games at all. And did not touch my xbox for almost 2weeks. All my rips are ABGX checked and all certified (didnt play a game that did not pass 100%). Turned my box on today and got the banned message.

Oh well so much for stealth and being careful. I'll just sell this and get a new one that I'll never mod. Theres not sure thing anymore in this world (IMG:style_emoticons/default/sleeping.gif)
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« Reply #612 on: November 13, 2009, 10:55:00 PM »

when i get my preflashed console, should i stay offline till this fw comes out?
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« Reply #613 on: November 13, 2009, 10:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(360beast @ Nov 14 2009, 12:55 AM) View Post

when i get my preflashed console, should i stay offline till this fw comes out?


YES!

No questions asked. Don't go online, don't play WAVE4 games yet..

as for the other guy from 2 posts above:

cmon.. have you read through all of this thread at all?
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« Reply #614 on: November 13, 2009, 11:00:00 PM »

QUOTE(360beast @ Nov 14 2009, 12:55 AM) *

when i get my preflashed console, should i stay offline till this fw comes out?


yes....
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