QUOTE(xboxer360 @ Nov 10 2009, 01:54 AM)

just because some rips aren't in the database doesn't mean it's bad.
it's obvious MS has been detecting the firmware, and even more obvious now that ix LT is getting released.
thats not what he's saying dude, do you think he'd be that much of a noobcake to confuse, "not verifying with DB" versus "not passing all the valid checks" (AKA Lvl 1 verification), regardless of if there is an entry for that personal rip online?
cmon.. these are two different things and most people don't understand this. A ripped game should RARELY match online SS info!!! Its not supposed to, because the ABGX online DB is for Scene releases.. NOT for your own backups which could be very diff from the ones the scene decides to put out there. Mind you, I'm saying, the FUNCTIONALITY of the ONLINE DB.. not the software itself.
LOADS of people (i mean come on, just look at the irc channel for ABGX) don't really understand what they are getting themselves into when they decided to mod or even worse let someone else mod for them.. and therefore this goes to show you a lot of people earn their bans, regardless of firmware detection.
Another thing, i'm pretty sure the firmware WAS undetectable.. for a while untill updates from MS made it detectable.. so there is nothing wrong with C4EVA's statement, or if you want to flip it around, his statement is wrong.. its just ambigious..
QUOTE(ImRickJamesB1tch @ Nov 10 2009, 01:59 AM)

I thought iXtreme was always like that? That it was a replica of the original barring a few small changes?
Looks like it was iXtreme that was causing the bans. If it was due to bad rips, there is nothing the firmware can do to stop it, meaning iXtreme LT wouldn't make a difference.
ughhh :X
man, what he is saying BEFORE.. (think about pre-lite on) all xboxs had diff drives which were all improvements on their predecessing generation's dvd readers. When iExtreme came out, they knew that MS could not ritefully read the firmware and therefore catch you redhanded with a modded drive.. BUT they knew they could possibly detect modded discs.. and so, ABGX was born, now.... we skip forward a year to 08' or so and we have a new xbox, with a new drive, made specifically to be able to read whats in the firmware.. and after many attempts to catch modders before by releasing WAVE security updates, the guys who make the firmware keep updating their firmware to make it as safe as possible in order to prevent it being fully detectable.. BUT now.. we see MS has finally found a way to detect the firmware, using something they had never done before.. so what do the hackers do? make NEW firmware, to patch up the newly found detection method MS has.. This is the way it ALWAYS work here. iExtreme WILL make a difference, just like 1.5+ made a diff from 1.3 and 1.4.. ok? The irony of this all is that according to what C4EVA has told us, its the stealth checks of the latest firmwares which have caused the bans.. meaning that the latest one will not have any protection and require the user to assume all responsability in checking their backups. This means it will behave just like original firmware.. and report just like original firmware. Which is what we want!! and that should cover us from bans.. at least on the firmware side.. now this is where all the ABGX users who don't know what they are doing will fail.. and be banned again.
QUOTE(logicwatch @ Nov 10 2009, 03:36 AM)

as always C4eva we are grateful for anything we receive . banned or not , without your free firmware over the years none of us would of been able to enjoy the modding community worldwide !
thank you

You sir are a true community gentleman! ARRR MATEE!!!!
And a ditto to that amazing post.

QUOTE(d05register @ Nov 13 2009, 03:17 PM)

I agree with you... My question was ironic. I said that SAMSUNG fw is going unencrypted on a link, and someone above wrote "c4eva says LiteOn fw is easier to be detected" and I ask ironically "How more detectable can a LiteOn be if MS can read the WHOLE fw (from the other drives)

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No surprise for me... One of the well known BS of c4eva....
You got my point. I am not going to talk anymore. DO THE TEST FOR YOURSELF... It's just packet sniffing...
Connect the xbox with the PC, PC with the rooter and sniff the bridged connection...
Man some people seriously surprise me. He says that stating a FACT because the Lite-On drive was introduced in order to be able to have the firmware read man. MS put it in, just like all other drive revisions to prevent modification.. and the Lite-On was MADE to be able to dump FW and detect it on the go, but Hackers, persistant as they are, have always found a way around it... so before you go jump on someone calling BS.. educate a bit, chillout and type www.google.com