QUOTE(hobogoonie @ Oct 28 2009, 01:34 PM)

I don't post very often but this thread has really done my head in.
When all the shit kicked off with Iriez and other (C4E) very well respected people in the scene I was gutted. I admire those guys so much. The work that they have all done is incredible. But the lack of respect people on this forum showed to them was terrible! Calling them this and that cos of the key extraction thing for the newer liteon's. I hope that a lot of people reading this thread feel guilty to what they have contributed to, if C4E has left the scene.
Everyone wants a new firmware, but too many people think that they deserve it for whatever reason. Thats just crazy! The work that has gone into previous firmwares and hacking tools has just not been appreciated enough. I for one feel very sad at the state of things at the moment, but I cant help feeling like this is what the majority deserve!
I very much agree with this also. I try to donate what little extra I can, but I don't try to make tons off of flashing systems. I mostly do it for friends and people close to them that they trust. Anyways I also respect all the work over the years that has gone into helping us to be able to do all of this. I remember having to use slax discs and unlock disc with media player and stuff like that and now not only do we all have the ability to stealth the games better, but Jungle Flasher also makes it so much easier with Hitachi's, Samsungs, and Lite Ons it is ridiculous to look back and see how flashing was done before now. Anyone who gets upset about having to wait should be tagged an Ass here and on any other forum site or anywhere possible. I don't mind being patient and waiting knowing that what comes from it is legit and works to perfection as well as it can. At some point maybe everyone who does the work to give us what tools we need may stop and if they do a big thank you should be given and not one complaint should be written. If anyone can't wait, doesn't want to wait, or gets pissy the new firmware or tools aren't out right away then all I can say is, get off your lazy ass and do it instead and see how hard and time consuming it is and then tell everyone how much you like to read on forums that people are sick of waiting or have their own dumbass opinion as to why it is taking "so long" or whatever way they put it.
Intelligence and patience are free so learn to use both. Stupidity, ignorance, laziness, and impatience should cost to own so maybe more people wouldn't have these traits and be annoying to us.