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mp4

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« Reply #15 on: March 17, 2005, 11:17:00 PM »

my serial number was ripped off so i called MS and they sent me one without me even verifying that i have a xbox just call them and they will send you one.
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gordita37

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« Reply #16 on: March 17, 2005, 11:46:00 PM »

Well after reading alot on it, looks like the cord has nothing to do with it.
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« Reply #17 on: March 18, 2005, 12:16:00 PM »

Liksang has new replacement PSUs, and Llama should have some old, already used.

Very easy to remove the psu, it just sits with 2 T10 screws, after those are gone you just lift it right out.
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« Reply #18 on: March 18, 2005, 04:25:00 PM »

Anyone know if theres any kind of danger to soldering this, like getting eletricuted or something like that, I just wanna take any kinda of precaution
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« Reply #19 on: March 19, 2005, 12:25:00 AM »

the soldering only helps. unless you are a faliure and is the worst solderer in the world..lol it's easy and safe!
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gordita37

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« Reply #20 on: March 18, 2005, 11:57:00 PM »

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« Reply #21 on: March 20, 2005, 09:42:00 AM »

QUOTE(Charbless @ Mar 17 2005, 02:04 AM)
yes you do plug it in xbox first then plug it in the wall use some common sence
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I'm not saying you're wrong or anything, but I'd like a second opinion. Also what is the reason for this? No, I don't know much about electronics, but my common sense (which may well be wrong) tells me to plug  it into the socket first and then the xbox. My reasoning is that the "electric flow" will have a chance to "stabilize" if you plug the cord into the socket first, but if the chord goes straight from the xbox to the socket the it will "flow wildly" and could potentially blow the power supply.

Why do I think this? Several years ago I was visiting my parents from out of state and brought my pc with me. When setting it up, I plugged the power strip in (the switch in the off position) then plugged my pc into the strip. When I switched on the strip, it blew my power supply. A "wild flow" of electricity, if you will, straight into my sytem. Cost me 30 somethin' dollars plus shipping plus waiting time for a 3rd party power supply. Won't make that particular mistake again.

On the other hand, most heavy appliances or ordinary electrical goods have the cord hardwired to the good, and plugs into the wall from there, so maybe that is the standard way of plugging in, even if the chord is detachable as in the case of the xbox.
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« Reply #22 on: March 24, 2005, 03:08:00 PM »

The PSU will have over voltage protection and is designed to take a slight but constant increase in voltage. The inital current at switch on will be higher than normal but only for few milli seconds if that. Whem you have the end of your power cord sitting at 230v or what ever your country uses and you plug it in to your xbox there are two problems----

(One) you take time to preform this action, it may only be half a second but that nowhere near as fast as if it was an instantanious link.

(Two) You will probally not be preforming this action smoothly. The socket holes on the cord to which the pins (on the xbox) plug into are slightly wider to start of with. This mean you will have sparking between this pins and sockets untill the action is complete.

This will stress the components of your PSU.
and all so your PSU is a Switch Mode PSU so it relys on a constant frequency to regulate the output voltage.

I sure you will be able to understand, this if not let me know.   uhh.gif
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« Reply #24 on: April 11, 2005, 05:05:00 PM »

QUOTE(gordita37 @ Mar 15 2005, 10:37 AM)
Ok, I thought something was a bit fishy when I heard a sparking noise everytime I plugged in my xbox.. Then one day I had to switch out my dvd drive for a new one I bought (modified samsung, which sucks btw) well I plugged it in to test out the dvd drive, I heard the sparking noise.. I down where the power cord plugs into the xbox and what do I see... a beautiful little electric fire.. YAY... not really..  Well, I started to try to blow out the sucker.. yes yes I know.. electrical fires really dont get blown out.. But hey, I was shattn my pants.. So now theres a little burnt hole in the chip where the powercord plugs next to.. I thought for sure it wasnt going to turn back on, well hey it did.. Now im stuck and dont know if I should go buy a new cord or what.. I cant get a new one for free because I peeled off the sticker quiet some time ago.. Ive turned it on before and I think it lit another fire because I smelt somthin burning laugh.gif ... But really... I need to do something about this beerchug.gif
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I'd give you the one i got but i ripped it apart for the components.
Crafty little M$ BAS***** put mettal prongs in the torx screws so i coudln't open it..hehe thats what they think muhaha.gif  muhaha.gif *grabs axe and sledge hammer*
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« Reply #25 on: April 19, 2005, 04:59:00 PM »

There are 2 hex screws on the power supply, unscrew them and it comes out at ease. One is near the power supply and one is placed oppositely. you might not seed the one place oppositely if some cords are hiding it...
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« Reply #26 on: May 23, 2005, 02:49:00 AM »

On another, lighter, dumber note. Thank god for these cords. I accidently hit the PSU with my finger while tinkering inside, as I was an idiot and forgot to unplug it. I only got a small jolt but it did trip it and save my ass. Thanks MS.
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« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2005, 10:55:00 AM »

14 million xBoxes, all Dell laptops, all HP laptops and many other mis-designed low voltage power connections are at risk!

MS has issued a recall of the power cords for 14 Million xBox power cords.

The problem is not with the cord but with the power connector that is connected to the motherboard using solder! as the mechanical connection method.  Engineers should not use solder as a mechanical connection.  They have done so and this mistake is still going on.  Pushing the box against a wall a few times will positively demonstrate this problem.  While this may be excused as abuse, it will happen many many times.

With many connector uses, plug and unplug, it is just a matter of time before the solder joint cracks and adds resistance to the power circuit which creates heat which can easily result in intermittant failure or worse fire.

My grandson's xBox showed intermittant turn off as well as "fizzing", (like sparking) in the area of the power connection at the back of the box.  Without opening the xBox, I tested by adding alligator clips between the xbox and the power cord, not recommended for non-electonic knowledgeable people, nudging the various possible failure points produced predictable failure at the error point. The real failure was the female power connector, mounted on the motherboard of the xbox, not the power cord.

I discussed in detail the problem with a MS Tech, me guarenteeing that my problem was not with the cord but with the xbox female connection.  after haggling about who would pay what to get it fixed, I compromised for ~$55 to send the xbox back and they would fix.  MS sent me a new xBox, my grandsons are back in business and I have a $55 bad taste in my mouth.

This same thing happend to my HP Pavillion N5435 2 years ago.  HP offered a motherboard replacement for ~$450.  Not wanting them messing with my hard drive and not wanting another failure to occur, I engineered a wiring change which put flexible wires soldered to the mother board and clamped to the chassis, connecting to a compatible $7.50 Radio Shack female power connector waving in the breeze on the back of my laptop, with a velcro connection of the power cord to the chassis, providing a strain relief for the many times the power cord gets plugged/unpluged.  This has worked under heavy use for 2 years.

This fix puts a flexible buffer between the male/female power connection and the motherboard which should be a redesign feature of 14 million xBoxes, all Dell laptops, all HP laptops and any other mis-designed power connection that does not account for 100+ uses of the connection over the lifetime of the product.  Desktop systems do not have this problem because they have a very strong 110V connection with wire provided strain relief between the power plug and the rest of the chassis.

I am qualified and experienced to know that this is a serious problem that probably has gone unrecognized because of the short life span of many systems and by the "throw-away" mentality of our computer use.  It is not a MS problem only.  Look closely at your power connection.

Hope this helps

Bob Payne <[email protected]>

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« Reply #28 on: June 13, 2005, 04:51:00 PM »

Some typewrighters have the same type of cord as the xbox ones and I know that they work.
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« Reply #29 on: July 09, 2005, 07:31:00 AM »

I guess I got lucky on my 1.0 parts , it was a refurb and they replaced the PSU with a Delta
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