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[Snowy87]

The guy even said himself it doesn't verify Iso's an isn't even legit.

I won't waste my time with this topolgy data XBC crap an will just wait for ABGX

Saves, time, hassle an bother.

Run it through, burn, like the old days.

Not stupid new methods.

It's getting really boring now.

[Spark]

QUOTE(finalman @ Dec 26 2011, 04:16 AM)

So whats safer ripping the topology data ourselves with our 0800 drives or injecting C4evas universal ones?

The nfo for the universal topology pack answers this really.

[juggahax0r]

QUOTE(Snowy87 @ Dec 26 2011, 01:15 PM)

The guy even said himself it doesn't verify Iso's an isn't even legit.

I won't waste my time with this topolgy data XBC crap an will just wait for ABGX

Saves, time, hassle an bother.

Run it through, burn, like the old days.

Not stupid new methods.

It's getting really boring now.

I was going to make a big long post but f**k it .... You're an ungrateful troll , gtfo , all this is given to you for free so respect it .... FYI nothing is new about using XBC to rip games , or patching in security files, the new fw won't work unless you are using the correct security for it, ABGX is going to verify that same security, and will most likely be the same thing you would download right now to patch games ... As soon some people start ripping with their 0800 drives topology data will be available for more games, it's not like c4eva has a collection of every Xbox360 game to make a rip and provide everyone the data, and ABGX database is not going to be 100% complete with all game topology data as soon as it's released , well maybe since there are only a few games but all new games as they come will have to be verified etc ... You will still be waiting even when the new ABGX comes out.

[hyfall381]

hey guys. sorry for the really dumb newb question.  im new with xbc.  i read about injecting the topology data into the iso.  so i did that.  now, do i have to use xbc to burn the iso or can i close it and use imgburn?  what i mean is once xbc injects that data to the iso, its all set and saved, right?  so even if i close xbc, the iso is still patched?
really embarrassing question ... just wanna make sure before i waste time and discs.  thanks.

[kaldi's apostle]

fyi
if you do an extract of SS from an image it is 26KB in size (like a ap25 extract), beleive it should be 2KB

[uN0pEn]

Thank you for your work Redline99

[GHR]

QUOTE(davidoneman @ Dec 27 2011, 04:36 PM)

Hi sorry for jumping in , ive got a samsung drive with the koreon firmware on bought awhile ago . ive never got round to backing up my origionals as i got my friend to do it but hes gone on holiday for a month , so im getting xbox flashed tomorrow so im going to have to do my games . ive just put the drive in pc and put my game in and got the new xbox creator its reading the game to pc but says ap 2.5 not supported by drive . so i was wanting to know if there is a newbie guide to doing the games from scratch , ive done a bit of reading but ive read that much my heads all over , many thanks

Lose the Kreon drive, It's pretty much useless nowadays. Get yourself a spare Liteon\BenQ Xbox Dvd Drive and flash it with C4's 0800 FW v3.0 - This is the only way for you to be able to rip properly all of the current games, including XGD3, Ap2.5 topology data\Whatever.
The program you'd use is XBC.

And to answer your next question - No, there's no way Kreon can handle AP2.5, and there are no plans to update it either.

[DrPhantum]

Is anyone else having the same issue I am?   Immediately after asking to name the ISO, the file is created and XBC hangs at 0.00 or 0.01%.   The *.iso file is usually ~400kb when the program hangs.   I thought that perhaps it has to scan the disk for a while at this point to read the topology, so I left it for a few hours, and nothing had happened.

I just used JF 1.91 to REFLASH my BenQ VAD6038 to the 0800 v3.0 firmware, and I also cleaned my laser TWICE with a QTip and Windex.  

I tried copying the FrogASPI.dll and mscomctl.ocx files I had in the v345 folder with the same results.

As a control set, and to make sure my drive wasn't coincidentally fried before I started using the new version... I used the previous version of XBC (v345) to rip a game, and it went without a hitch.

I keep seeing people reporting that this software is working for them... but I'm not nearly as lucky.  

What can I do?   Should I change any of the default settings?  Turn something on/off?  Could there be a software conflict on my computer that's causing it to hang as soon as it starts to read the disk?


Thanks for any help!

[juggahax0r]

QUOTE(DrPhantum @ Dec 27 2011, 11:26 AM)

Is anyone else having the same issue I am?   Immediately after asking to name the ISO, the file is created and XBC hangs at 0.00 or 0.01%.   The *.iso file is usually ~400kb when the program hangs.   I thought that perhaps it has to scan the disk for a while at this point to read the topology, so I left it for a few hours, and nothing had happened.

I just used JF 1.91 to REFLASH my BenQ VAD6038 to the 0800 v3.0 firmware, and I also cleaned my laser TWICE with a QTip and Windex.  

I tried copying the FrogASPI.dll and mscomctl.ocx files I had in the v345 folder with the same results.

As a control set, and to make sure my drive wasn't coincidentally fried before I started using the new version... I used the previous version of XBC (v345) to rip a game, and it went without a hitch.

I keep seeing people reporting that this software is working for them... but I'm not nearly as lucky.  

What can I do?   Should I change any of the default settings?  Turn something on/off?  Could there be a software conflict on my computer that's causing it to hang as soon as it starts to read the disk?
Thanks for any help!

 What is your SATA setup like? That could be causing the problem, I always have to use my onboard sata for any 360 drive, because you need the driver installed on a VIA card, and with a VIA and drivers installed it freezes my PC just plugging in a drive, but I also have onboard SATA so I use that for ripping, flashing is fine on the VIA .

[GHR]

QUOTE(DrPhantum @ Dec 27 2011, 06:26 PM)

What can I do?   Should I change any of the default settings?  Turn something on/off?  Could there be a software conflict on my computer that's causing it to hang as soon as it starts to read the disk?
Thanks for any help!

Try again but with the option - “process AP2.5″ unchecked (Under the options tab). According to k3rn3l, This option should only be used when topology data is being collected for development purposes.

Man I hope this helps you out, cuz other than that it's your setup...  

[GHR]

QUOTE(DrPhantum @ Dec 27 2011, 06:32 PM)

I have TWO spare Samsung Drives...  Are you implying that neither will work with the latest 0800 firmware? One has an older version of 0800 that I was using before getting the BenQ, which has worked flawlessly until XBC v350 was released.   I could dig them up and flash to see if my problems go away...  but I was under the impression that the Samsung drives can't handle XGD3/AP25.

Thoughts?

You are under the right impression, Samsung drives cannot handle AP2.5, they don't have the code for it.
And I missed the part you said you already have a BenQ drive - I got two here flashed with 0800 v3.0 - One's a Liteon and the other is a BenQ - TBH I can't point out any problems whatsoever,They're both working fine, maybe it's your laser?

[DrPhantum]

QUOTE(juggahax0r @ Dec 27 2011, 05:31 PM)

What is your SATA setup like? That could be causing the problem, I always have to use my onboard sata for any 360 drive, because you need the driver installed on a VIA card, and with a VIA and drivers installed it freezes my PC just plugging in a drive, but I also have onboard SATA so I use that for ripping, flashing is fine on the VIA .

I have a VIA VT6421 card, as well as onboard SATA.   The VIA card has worked fine up to this point.  I've used it since the first days of using a bootable USB drive to flash the early versions of ixtreme to my Samsung drive... all the way up to ripping the latest XGD3 games (before XBC v350).   Plus, as I mentioned in my earlier post... the VIA card still works for games on previous versions of the XBC software.

All that aside... I plugged my drive (which is powered through a CK3i) directly into the SATA ports on my motherboard, and restarted my PC, but it's not seeing the BenQ drive.   Do I need special 360 drivers?  I seem to remember that from before my VIA card arrived (that was the preferred SATA chipset back in the day)

Also... with regard to unchecking the AP25 option...  I tried that through the VIA card, and got the same problem.

I mentioned before that when I open XBC v350, it won't close unless I force it from Task Manager, even when I have the BenQ drive disconnected.  Is this happening for anyone else?  I think this is indicative of a software conflict of some sort...  and if so, then it has to be something different in THIS version of XBC, since it doesn't happen with the previous release (v345), which works to rip games.

Thank you for your suggestions!  Keep them coming!

QUOTE(GHR @ Dec 27 2011, 06:46 PM)

You are under the right impression, Samsung drives cannot handle AP2.5, they don't have the code for it.
And I missed the part you said you already have a BenQ drive - I got two here flashed with 0800 v3.0 - One's a Liteon and the other is a BenQ - TBH I can't point out any problems whatsoever,They're both working fine, maybe it's your laser?

I can rip games with XBC v345 just fine (except for the fact that the output files would fail AP25 challenges, of course)... so could it still be the laser?  I realize that v350 analyzes topology data... would this feature expose a problem with the laser that other versions of XBC would not?

Also... I cleaned the laser lens as recommended with a QTip wetted with Windex, applying very little pressure, and v345 still works (so I didn't damage it in cleaning).

Sorry to clog up this thread with my problems...

[davidoneman]

QUOTE(davidoneman @ Dec 27 2011, 02:36 PM)

Hi sorry for jumping in , ive got a samsung drive with the koreon firmware on bought awhile ago . ive never got round to backing up my origionals as i got my friend to do it but hes gone on holiday for a month , so im getting xbox flashed tomorrow so im going to have to do my games . ive just put the drive in pc and put my game in and got the new xbox creator its reading the game to pc but says ap 2.5 not supported by drive . so i was wanting to know if there is a newbie guide to doing the games from scratch , ive done a bit of reading but ive read that much my heads all over , many thanks

hi ive got a old lite-on dg-16d2s drive from a old xbox , what kit do i need for flashing it ive got a sata cable , sorry for being a noob on this  

[GHR]

QUOTE(DrPhantum @ Dec 27 2011, 09:25 PM)

I mentioned before that when I open XBC v350, it won't close unless I force it from Task Manager, even when I have the BenQ drive disconnected.  Is this happening for anyone else?  I think this is indicative of a software conflict of some sort...  and if so, then it has to be something different in THIS version of XBC, since it doesn't happen with the previous release (v345), which works to rip games.

No, it's not happening to anyone else I assume, not for me on my 3 desktops anyways...

So now we know it's your setup, sorry but you'll have to go the trial and error method until you figure this out.

About the "then it has to be something different in THIS version of XBC, since it doesn't happen with the previous release (v345)" - You'll have to address Redline99 himself for an explanation.

Good luck!  

[Toddler]

QUOTE(GHR @ Dec 27 2011, 09:16 AM)

Lose the Kreon drive, It's pretty much useless nowadays.

Kreon still works just fine, depending on your needs.  Xbox Backup Creator starting with version 2.9.0.345 was updated to support XGD3 discs and specifically supports the latest Xtreme ripping firmwares and Kreon drives. Obviously there are limitations to Kreon drives, but if you're ripping for a JTAG like I am, it doesn't matter. I convert my ISOs to GOD installs and have no need for XGD3 or AP25.