Topic: JungleFlasher 0.1.83 (241) (Read 1047 times)

pure_bluff · « **Reply #60 on:** May 30, 2011, 04:16:00 AM »

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ May 30 2011, 03:31 AM)

That is incorrect, of course it changed. That is part of the reason for this release.
Source: The front page

* The key location on phat models is now in a different area, so a new JF will be released to accommodate this change which was already anticipated in advance.

No, it's incorrect, or not wholly accurate.

BenQ

(IMG:http://www.jungleflasher.net/oggy/pics/benq.jpg)

LiteOn (Phat)

(IMG:http://www.jungleflasher.net/oggy/pics/1c000.jpg)

(IMG:http://www.jungleflasher.net/oggy/pics/1c000v2.jpg)

The key locations are the same in the flash, believe me. Phat/Slimkey don't read them from the flash directly.

dank4life · « **Reply #61 on:** May 30, 2011, 05:48:00 AM »

QUOTE(JungleJim @ May 29 2011, 08:38 PM)

Reasons for releasing 0.1.83(241) are clearly listed in the release notes, in post 1 of this thread and in the front page news article.
The release is only to provide support for new stock f/w's and changes there in. It has no new features for an existing or future LT or LT+ release.

Thank you for verifying my observation. You worded your response carefully to imply that releasing the new jf is a proactive solution. I still haven't heard any direct confirmation from your camp that LT+ was not compromised prior to the ofw update
The flaw in that statement is that it is irrelevant to the matter at hand. Disregarding what it may or may not do in the future, right now its purpose is to enable and promote the use of obsolete/unsafe methods and firmware.

QUOTE

I guess if LT and LT plus were detectable then MS would have banned users as opposed to investing millions in a new disc format.

that remains to be seen. But i'll toss this one in the bin next to k3rnels $10000 bet that lizard would never go standalone.

Geremia · « **Reply #62 on:** May 30, 2011, 06:49:00 AM »

winbond spi has no problem, it's a rocksolid product, call software bugs whith their own name.
slim LT is bugged, some people gets "play dvd error" but faults are referred to users only
rootkit is well detectable, in the worse realtime check, stock fw takes 3 seconds to reply, guess how much it takes the rootkit? 16 seconds!!

keep it real !!

JungleJim · « **Reply #63 on:** May 30, 2011, 06:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(dank4life @ May 30 2011, 12:48 PM)

Thank you for verifying my observation. You worded your response carefully to imply that releasing the new jf is a proactive solution. I still haven't heard any direct confirmation from your camp that LT+ was not compromised prior to the ofw update

I'm at a complete loss, I have no idea why you are questioning the integrity of LT+ in this topic... You are clearly trying to attack C4 and his work even though all the evidence is contrary to your beliefs. I'll repeat, if LT/LT+ was detectable, M$ would Ban the offenders NOT release a new media type, if you can't see this.... well lets just say you have confirmed my observations about YOU !

QUOTE(dank4life @ May 30 2011, 12:48 PM)

The flaw in that statement is that it is irrelevant to the matter at hand. Disregarding what it may or may not do in the future, right now its purpose is to enable and promote the use of obsolete/unsafe methods and firmware.

Users can and always have done as they wish and at their own risk. C4eva has already announced new f/w for Sammy, Benq and Phat Lite-ON AND he did so directly after the JF 0.1.84(241) announcement.... It seems pretty obvious, at least to me and most others this would actually infer that it is in fact necessary in order to support the new OFW's... I would ask you to employ your keen observation skills and try to see the logic in this..

QUOTE(dank4life @ May 30 2011, 12:48 PM)

But i'll toss this one in the bin next to k3rnels $10000 bet that lizard would never go standalone.

K3rn3l does his own thing... No idea why you think this little snipe is relevant for JF announcement... I do however look forward to when Lizard is fully standalone as advertised...

VivaLaMikey · « **Reply #64 on:** May 30, 2011, 07:20:00 AM »

QUOTE(mat82284 @ May 30 2011, 05:56 PM)

What you need to do is use dos flash in dos (boot using a floppy) to recover the drive from the failed update. Then once you do install the Benq's stock firmware (found online) then what you need to do next is put your key into the file, but don't spoof the drive. You only want the key. If your using jungle flasher to put the key on the file make sure you use the manual setting if you click the spoof button it will auto spoof it for the lite on drive. You want this drive to read as a benq not a lite on. Once installed with your key put it back in your xbox then update again. This time it will work 100%. Then after the update you can play any game you want without the spoof to a lite on. Its up to you if you want to re-install lite plus. Then you can decide to respoof the drive to a lite on or keep it as a benq. I kept mine as a benq.

Microsoft changed the requirement to have the osid match the onboard and, So now swapping drives only requires the key and instead of a key and a spoof. This was changed two updates ago, but no one is 100% sure about how safe this is. I've used a spoof drive for years and never had any issues, but its up to you. I figured microsoft changed the rule to allow users to fix the xbox's (or shops) them selves since the xbox is cheaper now. Microsoft also refurbished a lot of consoles and maybe they decided to swap more secure drives into them and removed the requirement because of the cost to reprograming the nand on them all. Or the cost to reproduce outdated drives.
Please do not give advice for a subject you have no knowledge in. You are giving false information to people.

OK so just to get things straight, this update does not require the correct drive with original osig intact it only requires that the right drive key is in there?

Im a little wary as not having the correct osig will automatically give me the error (by way of flashing power button) and i thought that would be enough for the 360 to refuse giving me the update.

Reason being is cause im pretty sure the update reads the drive osig from the console itself which is saying im meant to have a lite-on 94850c and therefore supplying me with that particular firmware which in turn is killing my benq as its obviously not a 94850.

BUT i'll try it anyway and see how it goes worse case scenario i will be refused then i'll have to wait for new firmware, not really a problem since its one of my 3 spare console for when my mate come round.

juggahax0r · « **Reply #65 on:** May 30, 2011, 07:26:00 AM »

I want to know what the Sammy MS28 , has to do with anything. The 3 oddupd files , only flash 3 different drives I looked at them in 13146 , Lite-on DG-16DS2 gets 0251 fw , BenQ 6038 gets 0442 , and Lite-on DG-16D4S gets 0272.

Unless their are more fw files in some other location in the system update that is all that they are flashing.

col12 · « **Reply #66 on:** May 30, 2011, 09:23:00 AM »

is this the jf that will be used when lt2.0 if so 2.0 can not be far away thank you for your hard work lads much apprieciated

pure_bluff · « **Reply #67 on:** May 30, 2011, 10:46:00 AM »

1.9 comes before 2.0!

tomgreen99200 · « **Reply #68 on:** May 31, 2011, 01:49:00 AM »

QUOTE(VivaLaMikey @ May 30 2011, 09:20 AM)

OK so just to get things straight, this update does not require the correct drive with original osig intact it only requires that the right drive key is in there?

The update requires:

1. The original drive that came with the console

and

2. The OFW that came with the console.

pif001 · « **Reply #69 on:** May 31, 2011, 01:54:00 AM »

QUOTE(Geremia @ May 30 2011, 01:49 PM)

winbond spi has no problem, it's a rocksolid product, call software bugs whith their own name.
slim LT is bugged, some people gets "play dvd error" but faults are referred to users only
rootkit is well detectable, in the worse realtime check, stock fw takes 3 seconds to reply, guess how much it takes the rootkit? 16 seconds!!

keep it real !!

So Geremia, do you have suggestions to improve the situation?!

thnx

astr4twin · « **Reply #70 on:** May 31, 2011, 05:10:00 AM »

Is anyone able to advise,

If i already have the key for the 74850c drive, once i accept the update and am on the new XGD3 OFW will i still need the CK3 probe to grab a copy of the new OFW ?

Or can i still use my existing key to flash to LT1.9 when it's released ?

Thank's.

Rammieone · « **Reply #71 on:** May 31, 2011, 05:22:00 AM »

I think at the min that you will need to use the Pogo method to pull the new firmware from the flashed update from it mate but if you have the key then it may well be enough to add that to the new Lt when it comes!

This post has been edited by Rammieone: May 31 2011, 12:24 PM

angrykid · « **Reply #72 on:** May 31, 2011, 08:48:00 AM »

I would wait for official word from C4 or TJ or TX

Ubergeek · « **Reply #73 on:** May 31, 2011, 11:17:00 AM »

QUOTE(dank4life @ May 30 2011, 12:48 PM)

Thank you for verifying my observation. You worded your response carefully to imply that releasing the new jf is a proactive solution. I still haven't heard any direct confirmation from your camp that LT+ was not compromised prior to the ofw update
The flaw in that statement is that it is irrelevant to the matter at hand. Disregarding what it may or may not do in the future, right now its purpose is to enable and promote the use of obsolete/unsafe methods and firmware.

that remains to be seen. But i'll toss this one in the bin next to k3rnels $10000 bet that lizard would never go standalone.

Who are you ? what do you do ? From what I can see from your posts you only EVER come here to snipe at C4, TJ or TX. You own a little web store and thats it. Thats all you do. You are not a developer and you have nothing to offer and have offered nothing.

It's also amusing that a couple of mugs keep bringing up a tongue in cheek IRC comment about a bet and are posting it everywhere like it will do some kind of damage or embarrass someone who actually could give two shits.

I guess k3 expects lizard to be more than just 2 drives with standalone (as well as their customers) - I guess we have Hitachi 32, 36, 46, 47, 58, 78, 79 and Samsung MS25, MS28, and Benq to look forward to (and thats just the phats) and not to mention having to add support for LT 1.9 and then LT 2.0 for each of the drives and all of their variations. Naturally having to rely on C4 - but F**k him tho right ?

QUOTE(pif001 @ May 31 2011, 08:54 AM)

So Geremia, do you have suggestions to improve the situation?!

thnx

Of course he hasn't or he'd have done it by now. All he can do is post attacks to C4 but without offering any real evidence or alternatives. The scene is awesome

If the fw could be detected, do you think MS would change their entire strategy and move to a new disc format ?

Firmware has failed with regards to security - that much has been proven. If you can't see or accept that - well then we suggest you move along and either come up with your own solution or get a new hobby.

courier · « **Reply #74 on:** May 31, 2011, 11:25:00 AM »

Awesome +2

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