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[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(kaizzen23 @ Feb 21 2010, 08:13 AM)

Free and $10 for VIP for additional content.

Yes, wow keep flaunting your so called intellect as if everyone in here is a moron.
A program that is completely free would not require $10 to gain access to the other features. That doesn't make any sense you moron!

lol and aiming for $10 per month? You guys are a complete joke! If it's so free then why not let people choose to donate or not for the 'VIP'. Donate an amount they see fit.

That's what I've been trying to say.

[Jaggie]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 21 2010, 04:12 AM)

Never heard of either one.

Never said you should of...

[Azraelrs]

QUOTE(kaizzen23 @ Feb 21 2010, 03:13 AM)

Free and $10 for VIP for additional content.

Yes, wow keep flaunting your so called intellect as if everyone in here is a moron.
A program that is completely free would not require $10 to gain access to the other features. That doesn't make any sense you moron!

lol and aiming for $10 per month? You guys are a complete joke! If it's so free then why not let people choose to donate or not for the 'VIP'. Donate an amount they see fit.

I notice the site is for sale. I'll buy it for free. However what would I pay for the VIP status of owning the site? What free amount in $'s would you deem fit?

Apparently common sense is lost on the people here. Open the program and tell what part asks you to pay to use it. Then come back and call me a moron. Second, graduate from preschool, learn how to read. Better idea. Don't use it. I doubt you would know how since reading is beyond you.

Can you name an actual original program that doesn't have at some point additional features available for VIP/Premium members? I bet not.

But, as I was saying, if you can't comprehend basic language, I don't think it's for you. Maybe a good paint by numbers will work better. Although I must admit, you guys must live any exceedingly boring life with these kinds of protest...

I mean.. Modio has a VIP function. Horizon, the Actual PT, Project Infinity, actually, any and all programs have paid VIP perks. So i'm sure you don't use any of those.

You obviously don't play on XBL, because, well, Gold Members get more perks than Silver members, and you guys are 100% against that from my understanding.

You don't watch TV, because TV is free, but to get more channels and more options you would have to give some money...

I'm not sure how any of you know how to read or write, because school is free, but to get better schooling, you would have to pay.

Oh, and then the great one... the internet. It is possible to get some dial up for free, but to get better
internet and faster speed and the ability to do anything you need to pay..

I could go on forever about all the things you are bitching about that are contradictions, but I have other stuff to do today.

Enjoy your hypocrisy while you live in a fantasy world, where only certain things that further your point cross your mind.


If you don't like it, don't use. Easy enough. No one is going to cry or give a care in the world either way.

[xan21]

Ok sorry but i kinda have to chime in here after reading all this....

OK yes 10$ at some point for VIP....

THIS IS NOT VIP FOR JUST THE PROGRAM. IT IS FOR HIS SITE.

Granted. im sure like x360c Dark also promotes people to VIP for helping out the site... contributing... etc. Also VIP gives you access to almost everything on his site. Soooo its not for the program... its for the site... + the program

So IN THEORY: You can unlock 100% by being active in his site and being promoted to VIP.

I see nothing wrong with him wanting to give a little Extra to the people at his site who have earned it.





And yes Dark its me from x360c


PS: I do not endorse paying for any program. But i understand what he is doing. He is rewarding those loyal people on his site.

This post has been edited by xan21: Feb 22 2010, 02:31 AM

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(xan21 @ Feb 22 2010, 02:27 AM)

Ok sorry but i kinda have to chime in here after reading all this....

OK yes 10$ at some point for VIP....

THIS IS NOT VIP FOR JUST THE PROGRAM. IT IS FOR HIS SITE.

Granted. im sure like x360c Dark also promotes people to VIP for helping out the site... contributing... etc. Also VIP gives you access to almost everything on his site. Soooo its not for the program... its for the site... + the program

So IN THEORY: You can unlock 100% by being active in his site and being promoted to VIP.

I see nothing wrong with him wanting to give a little Extra to the people at his site who have earned it.
And yes Dark its me from x360c
PS: I do not endorse paying for any program. But i understand what he is doing. He is rewarding those loyal people on his site.

Supposed I just want to use the program WITHOUT being a member.  I am a member of TOO many sites and I have lost track of most of them.

Plus I am not a fan of programs that require internet access.  I am totally against programs that require the internet to activate.

[Azraelrs]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 21 2010, 09:44 PM)

Supposed I just want to use the program WITHOUT being a member.  I am a member of TOO many sites and I have lost track of most of them.

Plus I am not a fan of programs that require internet access.  I am totally against programs that require the internet to activate.

Then it's probably not for you. Although we all know (none of us are stupid) that at some point someone will probably put effort into cracking it (even though there really isn't much point) and it'll work offline (or so they think)

[ccfman2004]

I find xbox live gold a waste since I don't play online unless an achievement requires it.  I don't approve of those gold only downloads and demos (unless they are online demos only).  The only reason I even have gold is:

1: I would get 1 month gold cards when I bought certain PC games
2: Someone dropped a 12 month gold card in a parking lot and I found it.  You wouldn't believe the stuff people leave in shopping carts.  One time I found a $20 bill in a shopping cart.

Otherwise I probably would not even have gold as it is useless for me.

I really hope that an offline version is made.

[xan21]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 21 2010, 11:42 PM)

I find xbox live gold a waste since I don't play online unless an achievement requires it.  I don't approve of those gold only downloads and demos (unless they are online demos only).  The only reason I even have gold is:

1: I would get 1 month gold cards when I bought certain PC games
2: Someone dropped a 12 month gold card in a parking lot and I found it.  You wouldn't believe the stuff people leave in shopping carts.  One time I found a $20 bill in a shopping cart.

Otherwise I probably would not even have gold as it is useless for me.

I really hope that an offline version is made.

I agree

[darkcrudus]

heh, this led me to believe that this was able to edit dlc to work on other non jtagged consoles. sad day xP

[Dark Slipstream]

QUOTE(darkcrudus @ Feb 22 2010, 02:54 AM)

heh, this led me to believe that this was able to edit dlc to work on other non jtagged consoles. sad day xP

I'll be making a program to do that either in RC2 or RC3 (/Release).


As for those people arguing over it costing money, the VIP is for VIP on the site and is inactive in the current version (RC1) and may even not be used in RC2. It's open for everyone with an account. The reason I make use of accounts, is you need to completely bypass the login to make use of the application, while licensing is far easily bypassed.

You don't HAVE to pay to use anything, RC1 (and maybe RC2) is completely free, and even when I do start using Usergroup Restrictions, only a few things will ever be VIP. I don't see you guys complaining that the Profile Tool or Profile Editor cost money. PE is almost a 3 month price, they recharge you whenever they add 0.5 to their version.


For those of you who can't afford $10 a month, pay the $35 and get Lifetime and stop your fucking crying.

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(Dark Slipstream @ Feb 22 2010, 02:33 PM)

I'll be making a program to do that either in RC2 or RC3 (/Release).
As for those people arguing over it costing money, the VIP is for VIP on the site and is inactive in the current version (RC1) and may even not be used in RC2. It's open for everyone with an account. The reason I make use of accounts, is you need to completely bypass the login to make use of the application, while licensing is far easily bypassed.

You don't HAVE to pay to use anything, RC1 (and maybe RC2) is completely free, and even when I do start using Usergroup Restrictions, only a few things will ever be VIP. I don't see you guys complaining that the Profile Tool or Profile Editor cost money. PE is almost a 3 month price, they recharge you whenever they add 0.5 to their version.
For those of you who can't afford $10 a month, pay the $35 and get Lifetime and stop your ******* crying.

I never used a profile tool before so why would I complain about that.  I prefer to get my achievements legitimately.  I may like to fool around with a profile I don't care about.

What features will cost money and why are you charging for those features?

[Dark Slipstream]

QUOTE(ccfman2004 @ Feb 22 2010, 09:46 AM)

I never used a profile tool before so why would I complain about that.  I prefer to get my achievements legitimately.  I may like to fool around with a profile I don't care about.

What features will cost money and why are you charging for those features?

I am not entirely sure yet, but it may only be things that can influence in-game experiences over xbox live (online cheating).

Why do I charge money for something I have created... things cost money in life, get used to it.

[darkcrudus]

QUOTE(Dark Slipstream @ Feb 22 2010, 07:33 AM)

I'll be making a program to do that either in RC2 or RC3 (/Release).

that would be splended, =] it'll be awesome to have my dlc from my online box n make it work on my banned one

[ddxcb]

QUOTE(darkcrudus @ Feb 22 2010, 10:19 AM)

that would be splended, =] it'll be awesome to have my dlc from my online box n make it work on my banned one

I lol XD

[ccfman2004]

QUOTE(Dark Slipstream @ Feb 22 2010, 05:19 PM)

I am not entirely sure yet, but it may only be things that can influence in-game experiences over xbox live (online cheating).

That will definitely get Microsoft's attention.