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K1LLERHORNET

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« Reply #45 on: November 04, 2009, 12:09:00 PM »

QUOTE(iwillrace @ Nov 3 2009, 08:14 PM) *

Sorry to sound like a noob but i cant seem to find what drives can be used with this 250gb self upgrade


"WD Scorpio Series BEVS/BEAS
  WD Scorpio Blue Series BEVS/BEVT
  WD Scorpio Black Series BEKT/BJKT
  WD VelociRaptor Series"
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« Reply #46 on: November 04, 2009, 01:11:00 PM »

Thanks for the help K1LLERHORNET maybe now i should go look on ebay for a new drive!
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« Reply #47 on: November 05, 2009, 11:00:00 AM »

will doing your own hdds be blocked when the new xbl update comes out?
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« Reply #48 on: November 05, 2009, 01:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(WarriorSan @ Nov 3 2009, 06:29 PM) View Post

I got a strange problem using this version of xplorer360 so maybe somebody can help me out..

I have a WD3200BEVT converted to 120 GB. First I backed up my data using xplorer360 extreme 2 (also couldn't handle more than 256 files at a time sad.gif ). Then I used HDDHackr v1.22 Build 20091022 with 250 GB HDDSS.BIN to convert to 250 GB HDD. The Xbox 360 recognizes the HDD and after formatting it got 228 GB left..

Now when I open xplorer360 250 GB version to put my data back, when I choose Drive -> Open -> Harddrive or Memcard it takes a few seconds and then the program closes. I tried everything from running the program as administrator / turning UAC off / virus scanner off / running the program under administrator account / connecting to HDD without formatting on the Xbox 360 / after formatting on the Xbox 360 / after account recovery blink.gif I have windows 7 32 Bit uhh.gif


Nobody? unsure.gif

@dosu23,

With the preview it still works fine...
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« Reply #49 on: November 05, 2009, 04:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(WarriorSan @ Nov 3 2009, 09:29 AM) View Post

I got a strange problem using this version of xplorer360 so maybe somebody can help me out..

I have a WD3200BEVT converted to 120 GB. First I backed up my data using xplorer360 extreme 2 (also couldn't handle more than 256 files at a time sad.gif ). Then I used HDDHackr v1.22 Build 20091022 with 250 GB HDDSS.BIN to convert to 250 GB HDD. The Xbox 360 recognizes the HDD and after formatting it got 228 GB left..

Now when I open xplorer360 250 GB version to put my data back, when I choose Drive -> Open -> Harddrive or Memcard it takes a few seconds and then the program closes. I tried everything from running the program as administrator / turning UAC off / virus scanner off / running the program under administrator account / connecting to HDD without formatting on the Xbox 360 / after formatting on the Xbox 360 / after account recovery blink.gif I have windows 7 32 Bit uhh.gif


If this is to much just remove it I didn't think it would be this big, but information is Power lol  blink.gif

There's a lot of information to understand about your drive not showing the full 250 GB but I'll give you a little info but not much, to fully understand your going to need to read about 50 Pages but here's what I got for the ones that don't know where there other GB's went.

Tracks and Sectors

A track is a single ring of data on one side of a disk. A disk track is too large to manage data effectively as a single storage unit. Many disk tracks can store 100,000 or more bytes of data, which would be very inefficient for storing small files. For that reason, tracks are divided into several numbered divisions known as sectors. These sectors represent arc-shaped pieces of the track.

Various types of disk drives split their disk tracks into different numbers of sectors, depending on the density of the tracks. For example, floppy disk formats use 836 sectors per track, although hard disks usually store data at a higher density and today can have 900 or more sectors per track physically. The sectors created by the standard formatting procedure on a PC system have a capacity of 512 bytes, which has been one constant throughout the history of the PC. One interesting phenomenon of the PC standard is that to be compatible with most older BIOSs and drivers, drives usually perform an internal translation so that they pretend to have 63 sectors per track when addressed in CHS (cylinder, head, sector) mode.

The sectors on a track are numbered starting with 1, unlike the heads or cylinders that are numbered starting with 0. For example, a 1.44MB floppy disk contains 80 cylinders numbered 079 and two heads numbered 0 and 1, whereas each track on each cylinder has 18 sectors numbered 118.

When a disk is formatted, the formatting program creates ID areas before and after each sector's data that the disk controller uses for sector numbering and identifying the start and end of each sector. These areas precede and follow each sector's data area and consume some of the disk's total storage capacity. This accounts for the difference between a disk's unformatted and formatted capacities. Note that most modern hard drives are sold preformatted and advertise only the formatted capacity. The unformatted capacity is usually not mentioned anymore. Another interesting development is that many new drives use what is called No-ID sector formatting, which means the sectors are recorded without ID marks before and after each sector. Therefore, more of the disk can be used for actual data.

Each sector on a disk usually has a prefix portion, or header, that identifies the start of the sector and contains the sector number, as well as a suffix portion, or trailer, that contains a checksum (which helps ensure the integrity of the data contents). Many newer drives omit this header and have what is called a No-ID recording, allowing more space for actual data. With a No-ID recording, the start and end of each sector are located via predetermined clock timing.

Google Wedge Servo, Embedded Servo and Dedicated Servo this takes space too.

Each sector contains 512 bytes of data. The low-level formatting process typically fills the data bytes with some specific value, such as F6h (hex), or some other repeating test pattern used by the drive manufacturer. Some patterns are more difficult for the electronics on the drive to encode/decode, so these patterns are used when the manufacturer is testing the drive during initial formatting. A special test pattern might cause errors to surface that a normal data pattern would not show. This way, the manufacturer can more accurately identify marginal sectors during testing.

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The type of disk formatting discussed here is a physical or low-level format, not the high-level format you perform when you use a Windows DOS-based FORMAT program.

See that Sticker on the drive Don't Remove Void Warranty well that's where the Grey Code enters lol even the sticker got a story.

The sector headers and trailers are independent of the operating system, file system, and files stored on the drive. In addition to the headers and trailers, gaps exist within the sectors, between the sectors on each track, and between tracks, but none of these gaps contain usable data space. The gaps are created during the low-level format process when the recording is turned off momentarily. They serve the same function as having gaps of no sound between the songs recorded on a cassette tape. The prefix, suffix, and gaps account for the lost space between the unformatted capacity of a disk and the formatted capacity. For example, a 4MB (unformatted) floppy disk (3 1/2") has a capacity of 2.88MB when it is formatted, a 2MB (unformatted) floppy has a formatted capacity of 1.44MB, and an older 38MB unformatted capacity (for instance, Seagate ST-4038) hard disk has a capacity of only 32MB when it is formatted. Because the ATA/IDE and SCSI hard drives you purchase today are low-level formatted at the factory, the manufacturers now advertise only the formatted capacity. Even so, nearly all drives use some reserved space for managing the data that will be stored on the drive. Thus, although I stated earlier that each disk sector is 512 bytes in size, this statement is technically untrue. Each sector does allow for the storage of 512 bytes of data, but the data area is only a portion of the sector. Each sector on a disk typically occupies up to 571 bytes of the disk, of which only 512 bytes are available for the storage of user data. The actual number of additional bytes required for the sector header and trailer can vary from drive to drive. As mentioned earlier, though, many modern drives now use a No-ID recording scheme that virtually eliminates the storage overhead of the sector header information.

IPB Image

You might find it helpful to think of each disk sector as being a page in a book. In a book, each page contains text, but the entire page is not filled with text; rather, each page has top, bottom, left, and right margins. Information such as chapter titles (track and cylinder numbers) and page numbers (sector numbers) is placed in the margins. The "margin" areas of a sector are created during the low-level formatting process. Formatting also fills the data area of each sector with dummy values. After you perform a high-level format on the disk, the PC's file system can write to the data area of each sector, but the sector header and trailer information can't be altered during normal write operations unless the disk is low-level formatted again.

As you can see, the usable space for data on each track is about 15% less than its total unformatted capacity. This is true for most disks, although the percentage can vary slightly, depending on how many sectors exist per track.
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SolidSonicTH

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« Reply #50 on: November 07, 2009, 09:23:00 PM »

If I'm not mistaken, we're already past it. The update ended up ceasing Datel memory units but anyone with a do-it-yourself HDD was passed over unscathed and continue to use their homemade hard drives with no issue.

However, I wouldn't mind if someone else could confirm that. My hard drive is hacked right now (bought it from Hong Kong) but it's functioning without any problems so if the update happened already (which I think it did), I'm proof enough you're safe.
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« Reply #51 on: November 17, 2009, 02:49:00 PM »

Ok guys, here is the noob question, where can I find the steps to perform this hack? Is the steps from the "TheSpecialist's HDDHackr v0.91 - Adds Support for WD BEVS-RST Drives" still valid for this update.\?



This post has been edited by Demobot: Nov 17 2009, 11:01 PM
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« Reply #52 on: November 19, 2009, 02:14:00 AM »

Now that I have this nice 250GB in my 360, is there any way I can use my old 20GB as a regular PC drive? Anyone have an old UNDO.BIN from making a bootleg 20GB 360 drive back in the day?
Model: hts541640j9sa00

QUOTE(Demobot @ Nov 17 2009, 04:49 PM) *

Ok guys, here is the noob question, where can I find the steps to perform this hack? Is the steps from the "TheSpecialist's HDDHackr v0.91 - Adds Support for WD BEVS-RST Drives" still valid for this update.\?

The steps I took worked for everything except some downloaded game updates.

Make a bootable flash drive and put hddhackr on it
Write down your Console Serial (from dashboard)
Check your dashboard version and (If you're avoiding NXE) download the same version from here or from xbox.com
Extract the zip contents to the flash drive
Acquire HDDHACKR
Acquire HDDSS_250GB.bin
Acquire Xplorer360 beta 6 Xtreme build 2
Acquire Xplorer360 250GB Edition

20GB in 360, memory card in 360:
Copy saves and profiles to memory card
Use code to clear your cache (This may have affected my downloaded content and isn't entirely necessary)

20GB in PC:
Open Xplorer360 beta 6 Xtreme build 2
Backup partition 2, just in case
Copy the contents of Partition 2 over to a directory in Explorer
Copy the contents of Partition 3 over to a directory in Explorer


250GB in PC:
Disconnect other drives, boot from flash
Use HDDHACKR

250GB in 360:
Format

250GB in PC:
Reconnect other PC drives, reboot
Run Xplorer360_09b6_250gb as admin
Run Explorer as admin
Drag the former contents of Partition 2 to Partition 2 in the 250GB (alternatively, you could try a restore from Xplorer360 Xtreme, but I didn't try this. Wish I had. I might've gotten perfect results)
Drag the former contents of Partition 3 to Partition 3 in the 250GB

250GB in 360, memory card in 360:
Copy profiles and saves from memory card
You might want to run the System Update you downloaded from the flash drive if dashboard isn't displaying your avatars properly.
Some downloaded content might not work. I wish I had tried restoring partition 2...
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« Reply #53 on: November 19, 2009, 04:58:00 AM »

Thanks for the info because I'm getting Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD2500BEVS 250GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache 2.5" SATA 1.5Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive today off Newegg with a case from eBay


Question Will this drive work and with any x360 HDD Case ? I think it should because it's 2.5" thanks
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« Reply #54 on: November 19, 2009, 08:39:00 PM »

QUOTE(PhoneyVirus @ Nov 19 2009, 03:58 AM) View Post

Thanks for the info because I'm getting Western Digital Scorpio Blue WD2500BEVS 250GB 5400 RPM 8MB Cache 2.5" SATA 1.5Gb/s Internal Notebook Hard Drive -Bare Drive today off Newegg with a case from eBay
Question Will this drive work and with any x360 HDD Case ? I think it should because it's 2.5" thanks


Sorry I found it on top couldn't remember where it was thanks again

Question Will this drive work and with any x360 HDD Case ? YES because all HDD case's are 2.5" and the HDD are 2.5" so YES

WD Scorpio Series BEVS/BEAS
WD Scorpio Blue Series BEVS/BEVT
WD Scorpio Black Series BEKT/BJKT
WD VelociRaptor Series"
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« Reply #55 on: December 18, 2009, 12:12:00 PM »

@PhoneyVirus: The 228GB is the result of the XBox showing the space in a different unit of measurement vs what we are accustomed to doing.  The drive size is advertised (and marked as) 250GB but the drive is really measured in GiB on consoles and computers.  On the box it clearly states that 1GB = 1000000000 Bytes.

250 GB (Gigabyte) = 250000000000 Bytes

So yea.... When you take that figure and convert it to GiB then you get...

250000000000 / 1024 / 1024 / 1024 = ~232.83 GiB (Gigibyte)

The remaining 4GiB is reserved to the system for internal settings and dashboard storage.

Source for information on translating between GB and GiB -- http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gigabyte


Now then for the rest of you...

It looks like xplorer has issues with Windows 7.  I don't know if the integrity of my save data is good or not so I am redoing it under an XP Virtual Machine.  As it stands drag and drop doesn't work at all under Windows 7.  At least not under my testing.

Now then if I understand everything I have been reading (here and elsewhere) beyond doing a backup and restore of Partition 2 I take it the only thing I really have to do is dump the Content folder and inject that into the new drive?  Do all the other folders get re-created as needed?
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« Reply #56 on: December 18, 2009, 12:38:00 PM »

Hey shinji257 you sound like you know a bit about how this hard drive calculations work, would you be able to have a look at this thread:  http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=699395

I am lost at trying to figure out how to get it going.  I figured maybe we can get a guide together to help all if we can figure it all out.
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« Reply #57 on: January 06, 2010, 02:20:00 PM »

Hi folks,

I hope someone can help me with a problem. I have a 250gb drive...has been flashed by the seller already and is recognized by my console no prob.

When I try to drag and drop it does not work. I have tried both the extreme and the 250gb version of xplorer360.
I have run as administrator, changed UAC permissions, and rebooted. I am on Win 7 64 bit.

I had no problem pulling the Partition 3 content from my old HD and xplorer360 reads the new drive fine.

I am using the M$ HD transfer kit.

I also went in and made sure I had admin permissions to write to the hard drive as well under security.

What I see is that it will show me the meter and "injecting folder" but the meter never progresses and nothing shows up.

I have also tried xport360 and it gives me a "not enough room" error.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

CHBAD
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« Reply #58 on: May 01, 2010, 08:12:00 PM »

QUOTE(CHBAD @ Jan 6 2010, 10:20 PM) View Post

Hi folks,

I hope someone can help me with a problem. I have a 250gb drive...has been flashed by the seller already and is recognized by my console no prob.

When I try to drag and drop it does not work. I have tried both the extreme and the 250gb version of xplorer360.
I have run as administrator, changed UAC permissions, and rebooted. I am on Win 7 64 bit.

I had no problem pulling the Partition 3 content from my old HD and xplorer360 reads the new drive fine.

I am using the M$ HD transfer kit.

I also went in and made sure I had admin permissions to write to the hard drive as well under security.

What I see is that it will show me the meter and "injecting folder" but the meter never progresses and nothing shows up.

I have also tried xport360 and it gives me a "not enough room" error.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

thanks,

CHBAD


Same exact problem here, except I'm on 32 bit windoze 7. Got explorer running as admin, xplorer360 also, UAC completely off. Inject just pops up the "injecting" box for half a second and nothing happens. I can pull anything off part3 fine, but just can't inject/copy anything to it... I tried drag/drop, and the same thing happens. I know how copying to the hdd should look like since I've done it before (should take several seconds for what I'm doing). I'm trying to get a single 20meg file on there and it does not show up, does not copy the file onto the hd (even though it says for a split second that it does). Any ideas?
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« Reply #59 on: May 01, 2010, 09:55:00 PM »

not good news for you guys but some news is better than no news right?

i had the same thing happen to me. no matter what program i used i could not inject/create files or folders. it would either hang or just nothing would show up at all.

i noticed something when i looked at the file structure i had 2 rock band folders. named the same and had the exact same files in them. file system error thats what i thought...so i deleted one loaded up rock band and boom all the songs were gone (but still showing in the second folder of the same name and still taking up space according to the NXE dash). i ended up just wiping the hard drive and recopying everything to it (like 120gb). but everything shows perfectly now. i can add/drag/drop/create. i blame xbox commander i used it one time to try it out and ever since then i have had nothing but problems until i formatted.

so like i said bad news, but good news.
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