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[sosotiit]

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Is it possible to make a backup game to play on the 360 from an xbox 1 backup of Star Wars Battlefront II?  

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This post has been edited by sosotiit: Mar 4 2007, 12:26 AM

[edlimym]

QUOTE(badsheepy @ Mar 3 2007, 11:30 PM)

Oh! I see what it was. I forgot to check if you were making an iso with video in the shrinking screen. It'd have fitted if you had made an ISO without the video partition (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

A nice easy fix for me too, which is always nice (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

And yeah, you can do much better shrinking things doing it manually, extracting all the files and removing/crosslinking etc.
Im hoping in a later release to add support for a shrinking file which will let one person manually shrink the iso and save what their steps so it could be a one click process for everyone else.

thanks mate.  nice to know that more options will be added in the future releases.  cheers!

[Tribb]

Nice app mate, Works really well for me but 1 question, Will the generic SS work for xbox1 dvd9 for hitachi drives ?

[billynomates]

LOL.... a virgin in the mists of trying this application, it sounds very good and cant wait to have a play around with it.

thanks

[badsheepy]

QUOTE(Tribb @ Mar 7 2007, 11:16 AM)

Nice app mate, Works really well for me but 1 question, Will the generic SS work for xbox1 dvd9 for hitachi drives ?

Sorry for the slow reply, I have been bingeing

Yeah, generic SS will work for hitachi too.

About the generic SS: Due to (i think) a bug in the emulator for xbox 1 games, ANY xbox 1 SS will work with any xbox 1 game.  The generic SS isnt special (or at all generic in the proper sense) in any way, its just an SS from a random game which due to the bug will work for any xbox 1 game.

[b10hazard]

Xdvdmulleter Beta 7 is awesome.  Wondering though if there is some option that I am missing, that will make the backups work in both a 360 and xbox1?

[badsheepy]

QUOTE(b10hazard @ Mar 22 2007, 04:13 AM)

Xdvdmulleter Beta 7 is awesome.  Wondering though if there is some option that I am missing, that will make the backups work in both a 360 and xbox1?

This will only work one of two ways, one of which isnt implemented in xdvdmulleter yet.

1. If you have a samsung xbox360 drive with xtreme 5.x firmware on it, you can just make a working single layer dvdr copy (with no video) and itll work fine on both xbox 1 and xbox 360.

2. If you have a hacked xbox 1 dvdrom drive with xtreme firmware on it, you can (probably) add the xbox 1 SS to the end of an xbox 360 dvd9 and have it boot on both. I have never tried this due to a complete lack of dvd9s, but I cant see why it wouldnt work fine. If you want to try it, just create a dvd9 iso in xdvdmulleter or whatever, and then get an xbox 1 SS for the same game (the ss files are different and incompatible) and just do:
 copy /b game.iso + SS.bin output.iso

I cant guarantee this will work, having never tried it, but from memory i think it should If you want to try this, I suggest you read the xbox 1 xtreme firmware nfo fully first to make sure im not telling lies .

[Mschapers]

Hello Badsheepy,

I have the following problem with rebuilding a xbox360 iso to dvd5 or rebuilding a xbox1 iso to work on a 360 console.

When I put the rebuilded 360 disc into my xbox360 the video appear which says it's an xbox360 disc and I need to put it in a 360 console.

When I put a rebuilded xbox1 iso into my 360 console it says it's a original xbox1 game and I need to put in a xbox console.

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1. If you have a samsung xbox360 drive with xtreme 5.x firmware on it, you can just make a working single layer dvdr copy (with no video) and itll work fine on both xbox 1 and xbox 360.

You are talking about making a new iso with no videopartition, but I can't choose this option in Xdvdmulleter 7. How can I make a iso with no video?

I have a Samsung drive, Xtreme 5.1.

Thank you for helping and keep up the good work.

Maikel

This post has been edited by Mschapers: May 26 2007, 09:47 AM

[badsheepy]

QUOTE(Mschapers @ May 26 2007, 09:45 AM)

When I put a rebuilded xbox1 iso into my 360 console it says it's a original xbox1 game and I need to put in a xbox console.
You are talking about making a new iso with no videopartition, but I can't choose this option in Xdvdmulleter 7. How can I make a iso with no video?

Well first, you cannot make a single layer rip of a 360 game at the moment.
To make a single layer xbox 1/xbox 360 compatible iso without video just use create standard iso (xbox 1 or xtreme 5)

I have no idea why you got the insert into an xbox1/xbox 360 console video, that usually indicates a bad SS file or bad firmware key.

Good luck anyhow

And to everyone: XDvdmulleter b8 is almost done, with a whole load of fancy new things. now is the time to report bugs in the old one if you have any.. features and suggestions are welcome too

[Antman1]

QUOTE(badsheepy @ May 27 2007, 10:26 AM)

Well first, you cannot make a single layer rip of a 360 game at the moment.
To make a single layer xbox 1/xbox 360 compatible iso without video just use create standard iso (xbox 1 or xtreme 5)

I have no idea why you got the insert into an xbox1/xbox 360 console video, that usually indicates a bad SS file or bad firmware key.

Good luck anyhow

And to everyone: XDvdmulleter b8 is almost done, with a whole load of fancy new things. now is the time to report bugs in the old one if you have any.. features and suggestions are welcome too

Would it be possible to get DVD Mulleter to check the PFI and DMI to see if it is the right one injected into the disk?  I was under the assumption that they were all the same and some of my diskcs I used the same PFI and DMI on them and hate to reburn and waste DL on them if they are right.  I dont remember which ones I started using Xbox Backup Creator on..  

[billynomates]

QUOTE(badsheepy @ May 27 2007, 10:26 AM)

Well first, you cannot make a single layer rip of a 360 game at the moment.
To make a single layer xbox 1/xbox 360 compatible iso without video just use create standard iso (xbox 1 or xtreme 5)

I have no idea why you got the insert into an xbox1/xbox 360 console video, that usually indicates a bad SS file or bad firmware key.

Good luck anyhow

And to everyone: XDvdmulleter b8 is almost done, with a whole load of fancy new things. now is the time to report bugs in the old one if you have any.. features and suggestions are welcome too

nice one badsheepy i look forward to its release  

[badsheepy]

QUOTE(Antman1 @ May 27 2007, 05:46 PM)

Would it be possible to get DVD Mulleter to check the PFI and DMI to see if it is the right one injected into the disk?  I was under the assumption that they were all the same and some of my diskcs I used the same PFI and DMI on them and hate to reburn and waste DL on them if they are right.  I dont remember which ones I started using Xbox Backup Creator on..  

I am not entirely sure its possible to do this reliably. There are a few things that might indicate the presence of the wrong stuff, but none of them would work in all circumstances. If you ripped the video files yourself too then it might be possible, but if you used the original xtreme instructions to make the iso it probably isnt. I am mostly sure the PFI is only unique to a specific video file each time (although i havent tested this much, I only have like 4 games, all of them borrowed, and a scrounged 3 red light 360 to power the samsung

So i can link ss to iso, pfi to video. DMI appears to contain both encrypted data and some random other stuff, nothing I can check for. As of yet, im not sure if its possible to check any more, but I will keep looking

What I was considering doing is something along the lines of the wxripper iso checking (although not as time consuming or broken.. no need to checksum the entire game when you have the media id, and no ambiguous game versions
Then itd be easy to store checksums of pfi + dmi + video + game partitions. Course its only a thought, and I have no web hosting yet or intention to implement this until splitvid and a few other features are finished.

[Antman1]

QUOTE(badsheepy @ May 27 2007, 07:06 PM)

I am not entirely sure its possible to do this reliably. There are a few things that might indicate the presence of the wrong stuff, but none of them would work in all circumstances. If you ripped the video files yourself too then it might be possible, but if you used the original xtreme instructions to make the iso it probably isnt. I am mostly sure the PFI is only unique to a specific video file each time (although i havent tested this much, I only have like 4 games, all of them borrowed, and a scrounged 3 red light 360 to power the samsung

So i can link ss to iso, pfi to video. DMI appears to contain both encrypted data and some random other stuff, nothing I can check for. As of yet, im not sure if its possible to check any more, but I will keep looking

What I was considering doing is something along the lines of the wxripper iso checking (although not as time consuming or broken.. no need to checksum the entire game when you have the media id, and no ambiguous game versions
Then itd be easy to store checksums of pfi + dmi + video + game partitions. Course its only a thought, and I have no web hosting yet or intention to implement this until splitvid and a few other features are finished.

Maybe if I could use XBC to rip my DMI and PFI and SS and then use DVD Mulleter to compare the files from my recorded disk that would work.  I just dont want to waste all of my DVDR+DL discs cause they are expensive.  I can rerip them if I have to but hate to have to rebuy and not know which ones to redo.  I did it the old fasion way.  DVD Info Pro and such.   I tried to save time and was lazy and some used same DMI and PFI.  Now I am mad at myself..

[badsheepy]

QUOTE(Antman1 @ May 27 2007, 07:28 PM)

Maybe if I could use XBC to rip my DMI and PFI and SS and then use DVD Mulleter to compare the files from my recorded disk that would work.  I just dont want to waste all of my DVDR+DL discs cause they are expensive.  I can rerip them if I have to but hate to have to rebuy and not know which ones to redo.  I did it the old fasion way.  DVD Info Pro and such.   I tried to save time and was lazy and some used same DMI and PFI.  Now I am mad at myself..

Well you gave me an idea, I think i might add comparison to retail discs in mulleter while i have this samsung hooked up. Which also might (will) mean me adding ripping from samsung drives like xbc (something i purposely avoided cause I dont have the time or the games or the hardware or the money to test it properly) Fortunately Xdvdmulleter evolved from a previous project where i was messing about with controlling dvdroms, so all the underlying code is already there.

But yeah, you seem to have the right idea, so to explain it for others:
you can extract the one set easily with xbc and the other set with mulleter from the dvd (actually xbc might support this also, I havent checked) and just run something like md5sum on the files to compare them.
Make sure you rip the video partition too, as they are changable depending on the PFI.

Having a quick google, i found md5sum here: http://www.etree.org/md5com.html
Ignore the commands on that page, just do as follows:

For say an SS from original ripped as ss_orig.bin and an ss from a burned copy as ss_copy.bin
do md5sum ss_orig.bin ss_copy.bin

if the numbers match, the files are identical.

Hope this helps some people. I will attempt to add some kind of checking against originals soon, but I have a good few things to add first. (No point checking before split video is included in my opinion)

Note: C4e says both split video and original video formats will work in the ixtreme firmware, so its not ESSENTIAL, but if people are going to have to reburn anyhow, Its probably better to reburn a more accurate ISO if only to give you a nice warm feeling inside.

[badsheepy]

Oh and if people are going to check their details against the originals (or if they just want to be helpful)
Pop your retail game into your pc dvdrom, load up imgburn and tell me the details for..

Sectors, Size, and Last Physical Sector in Layer 0.

The dvd I have here has the values:

Sectors: 6,992
Size: 14,319,616 bytes
Last Physical Sector in Layer 0: 203,439

With those details I can hopefully hardcode a relationship between the pfi and the video file. Duplicates are unnecessary, so if you have multiple games with the same values, I only need them once.

Thanks!