Topic: Transcode 360 v1.0 Beta (Read 4975 times)

[-TpS-] · « **Reply #120 on:** February 09, 2006, 02:25:00 AM »

I got some trouble too...
This is my log:

2006-02-08 23:02:26 Starting Transcode360 service (1.0.0.0).
2006-02-08 23:02:26 Loaded configuration settings.
2006-02-08 23:02:26 Service is ready to accept requests.
2006-02-08 23:06:38 Add-in enqueued: dead.birds.2004.DVDRip.XViD.72hw.avi
2006-02-08 23:06:39 Loaded encoder profile: Transcode 360 Normal
2006-02-08 23:06:39 Loaded encoder profile: Transcode 360 480x360 (Fullscreen)
2006-02-08 23:06:39 Loaded encoder profile: Transcode 360 480x270 (Widescreen)
2006-02-08 23:06:39 Stream opening.
2006-02-08 23:06:43 Transcoding video to WMV using profile: Transcode 360 Normal
2006-02-08 23:06:48 Stream opened.
2006-02-08 23:06:48 Stream started.
2006-02-08 23:06:49 Stream closed.
2006-02-08 23:06:58 Client connected.
2006-02-08 23:08:58 Client disconnected.
2006-02-08 23:09:03 Client connected.
2006-02-08 23:11:06 Client disconnected.

The screen says "Transcoding..." and the arrows never stop spinning around.

Any sugestions on this?

TIME2PLAYDAGAME · « **Reply #121 on:** February 09, 2006, 02:14:00 AM »

Ha..I feel stupid, it was my firewall & a couple of settings i overlooked in services. Great work man & thanks a lot!! Gonna go watch Silicon Valley now <<Go figure

stark · « **Reply #122 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:03:00 AM »

Hi All,

Thought id share my experiences with this Awesome program. Well done!

I run Windows XP on my pc. I have a Virtual PC image of MCE2005. This has the extender software for the 360. My DivX/XviD files are stored on the XP pc and are shared to the MCE image. I also have external HDD's containing .TS HD Movies which i share to the virtual PC.

The TS movies stream sweet by the way

I installed in the following order...

1) Transcode360
2) DivX 6.1
3) AC3
4) DivX Toolbar Remover

I have not messed around with any settings so it is all default install. Once done i can successfully launch MC on the xbox, browse to my DivX/XviD files and transcode. Took me a while to get it working tho but it was down to codec problems. After reading all 7 (now 9+) pages i managed to sort it out.

I even then tried installing the XviD v1.2 codec on top, and it works still (wasnt needed tho)

I do have one problem now tho, no matter what DivX/XviD file i play, every 30 ish seconds i get a 2 second pause. Quite annoying.

I have tried running a movie/tv ep from the local virtual image instead of from a share - still pauses. I tried removing the XviD codec, and using the v1.1 instead - still pauses. The only thing i have yet to try is getting my main XP pc to do the transcoding instead of the virtual MCE pc. Additionally the MCE image is only using 512MB of RAM. I could possibly increase this and see if it makes a difference.

Thought id share my thoughts here and see if you can make any recommendations? Transcoding for me is totally new knowledge (since yesterday!).

Thanks for any help.
D.

willy360 · « **Reply #123 on:** February 09, 2006, 03:56:00 AM »

To those still having problems, be sure to use the divx 6.1 menubar removal tool described in the help file for transcode360.

If your videos are on the MCE macine, go to the transcoder service: cntrl panel ---> Admin Tools --> Services --> Trancoding an Bro..

Go to properties for this service --> log on --> and select local service (and check the box below)

this way you dont have to care about passwords etc.

Remember to start or restart the service. (this service must be started for transcode360 to work)

Hope this helps!

Willy

repdetect2 · « **Reply #124 on:** February 09, 2006, 04:14:00 AM »

Congratulations on an excellent effort runtime....

So, the question I haven't seen answered, is there anyway to get 5.1 surround during transcoding? Thanks.

RUNTiME · « **Reply #125 on:** February 09, 2006, 05:57:00 AM »

a5568 - Sounds like you got it working in the end. BTW: System.Runtime.InteropServices.COMException (0x80040155): Interface not registered
at WMPLib.WindowsMediaPlayerClass.newMedia(String bstrURL)

Might need to update your version of Windows Media Player (I have v.10 installed)

[-TpS-] - You're seeing two issues: 1. the main issue - the codec you're using isn't fully compatible so it starts/stops transcoding almost immediately 2. a bug in T360 where it doesn't ever timeout if movie start/stop immediately.

repdetect2 - "is there anyway to get 5.1 surround during transcoding?" - not that I know of, MS crippled WME so that it will only broadcast stereo - but I really haven't tried hard enough to give up hope. once i make the install smoother (i.e. perform checks and warn users of incompatible codecs), fix the obvious bugs then I'll move onto improving the featureset.

rubarb007 - "See i dont and NEVER will install and divx codec produced by divx networks."
I'm not a great fan either (my preference would be XviD if it was compatible), but they (DivX) must be doing something right if its compatible with Windows Media Encoder. There are two types of codec 'VCM' and 'DMO'. Most codecs are old-school 'VCM' filter, the newer DirectX Media Object codecs tend to come from MS and therefore compatible with WME. We have plans to construct our own custom filter graphs and such to get around using Windows Media Encoder, or just replace it completely with an existing opensource lib like ffmpeg, or VideoLAN. The problem is that most of these don't speak the language of Windows Media Video 9 which is what the 360 understands.

All - Can anyone else verify if 'http://download.divx....0-30122005.exe' is a suitable replacement for DivX 6.1 ?

YeSoD · « **Reply #126 on:** February 09, 2006, 07:06:00 AM »

But ffdshow *IS* compatible with WME... You can manually transcode a video with WME using it, so I think it must be something related with the way the transcoding service works...
Note that, for exemple, you neither can get VobSub working, because it won't start on video playing automatically as usual. So, if we can find a way to trigger something like VobSub before the transcoding starts, I suppose we can also get ffdshow (and support for more codecs other than DivX) working.
I've also tried with a .divx container, but the extra features of the container, such as subtitles, are not working, so it's clear that support for the DivX codec is also incomplete. Of course, the tool and the system is a very good start; it's just I hope there's still room for improvement.

repdetect2 · « **Reply #127 on:** February 09, 2006, 06:43:00 AM »

Thanks for the follow up runtime

micro23 · « **Reply #128 on:** February 09, 2006, 07:24:00 AM »

QUOTE(repdetect2 @ Feb 9 2006, 10:45 AM)

Congratulations on an excellent effort runtime....

So, the question I haven't seen answered, is there anyway to get 5.1 surround during transcoding? Thanks.

Two things. One there is some sort of surround sound going on. On first play I loaded up a hdtv rip of Las Vegas and did hear some sound coming at the right times in my rear speakers. But it wasent right. I went into the audio encoding options and yes 5.1 is available. I changed it to a low version of 5.1 and loaded up the same video and a copy of Rome (hbo special) with 5.1 encoding. Both files sound FANTASTIC. They still sound great even without that option on. The one thing I would not complain about is the sound.

I do have a DD decoder and it's all setup amazing. Games and dvd's really do shine on the 360 with a great surround sound setup.

Video quality on the other hand im still waiting to see if anyone has made some grounds.....

How could MS (the company i love oh so much (seriously)) not included the support for this. Why are we struggling to hard to get something thats perfect when they could just EASILY release support for this WIDELY known and used codec. Common even games are using these technologies now. Oh well.....

double parenthesis

you like that huh? only way i could say it right by typing

TIME2PLAYDAGAME · « **Reply #129 on:** February 09, 2006, 09:00:00 AM »

Micro, good thing ya here. lol Did you notice any framerate probs when you upped the bitrate or resolution? I downloaded the SharkTale HD Xvid trailer and it was fine using defaults but the moment i went in & changed the default 320x240 to 1080i or 720p & 2000k to 8000k in the 16:9 file, the trailer started to chugg along. I used the same # you used in the config file as well. I went ahead & changed back to defaults but it still doing the same, just not as bad. Any idea what happened?

Quick rundown of my PC: P4 2.8c HT, 1gb OCZ performance, Radeon 9200 pro, MSI motherboard, cable etc. I built this PC about a year+ ago. Cant be the PC right?

TIME2PLAYDAGAME · « **Reply #130 on:** February 09, 2006, 08:58:00 AM »

hMmM I notice my Extender Resource Monitor is spiking when i try to play this trailer now. Which could be the reason for the framerate problems? WTF..I changed everything back to their defaults, so what gives? The other files i play are fine

SlasherKG · « **Reply #131 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:13:00 AM »

QUOTE(YeSoD @ Feb 9 2006, 08:37 AM)

But ffdshow *IS* compatible with WME... You can manually transcode a video with WME using it, so I think it must be something related with the way the transcoding service works...
Note that, for exemple, you neither can get VobSub working, because it won't start on video playing automatically as usual. So, if we can find a way to trigger something like VobSub before the transcoding starts, I suppose we can also get ffdshow (and support for more codecs other than DivX) working.
I've also tried with a .divx container, but the extra features of the container, such as subtitles, are not working, so it's clear that support for the DivX codec is also incomplete. Of course, the tool and the system is a very good start; it's just I hope there's still room for improvement.

You actually got ffdshow to work with WME?!? How? What version (build date) did you use? Are you sure it's actually using ffdshow and not another codec that's overriding it?

peke · « **Reply #132 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:36:00 AM »

hey,

could anyone help me out I have no clue what to do. I installed the program and then I started the exe file.
then there came this screen and it said like : cannot start service from the command line or a debugger. A windows service must first be installed ( using installutil.exe ) and then started with the serverexplorer, windows services administrative tool or the NET START command.
oh jha an I am a noob

YeSoD · « **Reply #133 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:36:00 AM »

QUOTE(SlasherKG @ Feb 9 2006, 05:44 PM)

You actually got ffdshow to work with WME?!? How? What version (build date) did you use? Are you sure it's actually using ffdshow and not another codec that's overriding it?

Well, WME opens and plays a video using ffdshow when ffdshow is the only decoder installed, that's for sure (last SSE2 version, february 02), but actually I can not tell if it's capable of executing the transcoding (anyone can confirm or deny that?)
Another thing I've seen is that, when you install ffdshow *and* DivX, WME defaults always to DivX, so no matter the configuration of ffdshow, WME won't use it.
This is the same behaviour of the transcoding service, as it always chooses DivX over other decoders, as XviD or ffdshow (and this is why some people are reporting that XviD works, when by itself, it does not). The fact is, as far I can tell from my tests, that while WME can *open* the videos using any decoder that works within Windows Media Player, it does not when using it through the Trancode360 service.

RUNTiME · « **Reply #134 on:** February 09, 2006, 10:56:00 AM »

QUOTE(YeSoD @ Feb 9 2006, 05:43 PM)

The fact is, as far I can tell from my tests, that while WME can *open* the videos using any decoder that works within Windows Media Player, it does not when using it through the Trancode360 service.

Personally I wish that was true as that would mean there was some way of improving compatibility but you can't say that as a fact until you have manually set up a broadcast using WME on port 8080. To setup that test you need to create an .asx file ala /mceDivX360 and point it to WME running in a controlled environment, no MPEG4 based codecs (except for WMV) installed other than the one you're testing. Run the GSpot codec information appliance to generate a list to be sure.

T360 can open the file, but you see WME barf when it PreparesToEncode. Also bear in mind T360 is running as a service, with different permissions (if you used a "local system" account) than the logged in user, so its possible some codecs don't like that environment. So when running compat. tests try the console diags mode which runs as an app instead of a service.

There are so many PC configurations out there that its impossible to say anything with a great deal of certainty without going through weeks of testing. I tested T360 for two weeks before releasing, and agreed I didn't dabble around with codecs v. much, but my experience was whenever I deviated from DivX 6.1 (minus toolbar) there was trouble. Also look at the /mceDivX360 project - the author comes to the same conclusions.

Theres definately more work to be done in this area, but I do know for a fact that I had to disable ffdshows mp3 support when I had both DivX and ffdshow on my PC; so be aware that it might not always be the video codec thats the problem.

I would recommend that people always start with the simplest config we've been pushing (DivX 6.1 minus toolbar) and then once they're happy start experimenting.

That said I'm looking forward to reading more of peoples findings because it'd be great to find out others that work, if not to get to the heart of the codec compatibility question.

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