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[erikk]

very strange situation... with the iso files...

what do you think about that?

when we can dump a iso like nfs we have to hack the default.xex i think, for the protection.
some files like default.xex from the bc update or the default.xex files from downloaded demos dont check any copy protection. so i think i can be possible to hack some codes in the xex files.

do you think its possible?

[OcnewB]

QUOTE(erikk @ Dec 10 2005, 12:38 PM)

very strange situation... with the iso files...

what do you think about that?

when we can dump a iso like nfs we have to hack the default.xex i think, for the protection.
some files like default.xex from the bc update or the default.xex files from downloaded demos dont check any copy protection. so i think i can be possible to hack some codes in the xex files.

do you think its possible?

All the files are encrypted besides that the hypervisor wont allow non signed files to be played or it panics and blows up.

So my guess is no. Not without a chip.

I was wondering more what would happen if you put all the files on a xbox(1) harddisk and rename some xex files to .xbe..

Ill try that later :-) Just for fun..

[jizmo]

QUOTE(OcnewB @ Dec 10 2005, 02:29 PM)

I was wondering more what would happen if you put all the files on a xbox(1) harddisk and rename some xex files to .xbe..

Where do you all chumps come from? First one wants to play the extracted files remotely with MCE and some other ones are waiting for modchip for christmas. And now this guy wants to play x360 compiled binaries on Xbox.

I can't take it. Please, someone post something smart for a change.

[tomlarose]

You people are about as ignorant as that kid who thought if he renamed all of his PS2 files he could play them on his xbox.  

[scotty2hotty1124]

although many of the ideas stated here have not been good ones (including my own)....as stated earlier...if you dont try you wont know.  so yes, maybe our ideas didnt work, and yes maybe they werent very well thought out...but there is absolutely no need for you to say how ignorant we are, or that we need some "smart" ideas...if you want some smart ideas...why dont you post some up? im not flaming...just stating that ideas are ideas, whether they are dumb, or very bright....so until we actually crack this thing...why dont we be more helpful around here

[tomlarose]

You're right.

I have an idea.  I'm going to go plant a $100 bill in the ground and see if I can grow a money tree.    Like you said if you don't try it you won't know.


Sound ignorant?  Why because it's impossible?  Now how far off from impossible is renaming a bunch of files compiled in one architecture and try and run them on a completely diffrent one.  

See what I'm getting at here?

Sure, try it.  More power to you.  But why waste the bandwith on this site (because we all know this site is drowsey as it is) and post about it?

Congrats.  You've won dumbass of the week.  

[Keva]

Doesnt the 360 drive read CDR disks? Cant someone creat a "boot disk" like the one used on the DC?

[scotty2hotty1124]

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Doesnt the 360 drive read CDR disks? Cant someone creat a "boot disk" like the one used on the DC?

i like the idea...but be careful...you might be called ignorant or your idea might not be "smart enough" and youll be flamed for it....

[tomlarose]

QUOTE(scotty2hotty1124 @ Dec 10 2005, 11:25 PM)

i like the idea...but be careful...you might be called ignorant or your idea might not be "smart enough" and youll be flamed for it....

Creating a boot disk is way more plausible than renaming your xex to xbe and playing the game on your xbox.

Did you actually think that was even a practical idea?  I mean shit.  

[krawhitham]

QUOTE(erikk @ Dec 10 2005, 12:38 PM)

very strange situation... with the iso files...

what do you think about that?

when we can dump a iso like nfs we have to hack the default.xex i think, for the protection.
some files like default.xex from the bc update or the default.xex files from downloaded demos dont check any copy protection. so i think i can be possible to hack some codes in the xex files.

do you think its possible?

sure all you have to do is decrypt the xex, figure out where the media flag is change it to accept burned discs, re-encrypt the xex and re-sign it with a key that he have no idea what it is

QUOTE(scotty2hotty1124 @ Dec 10 2005, 09:25 PM)

i like the idea...but be careful...you might be called ignorant or your idea might not be "smart enough" and youll be flamed for it....

the xbox 1 would read dvd-r disc did anyone ever make a boot disc for it that did not require the system be modded?

you have to sign the XEX with a key we do not have

[erikk]

yeah i understand... but what is with downloadable demos?
you can play that games from hd.. the structure of contents seems like dvd structure, without any copy protection sections.
or will be the xex file new generated when you download a game? i dont think so.
so a default.xex file must exist without any protection check, also the xex file from bc update. (in my opinion)

what i mean is that a possible choice have to be:
you can burn the default.xex from bc update to a dvd-r or cd-r and the xbox 360 aceppt that cd with data content and run that. The xex file is still an executable with compressed data like self extracting rar, but it is executable. so there have to be code in it, which dont use any media protection.

[jizmo]

All the stupidities aside, here's how this tool might be useful. Now that x360 games can be ISO'ed and the contents extracted, figuring out the filesystem used in x360 might be just around the corner. That's where the actual fun would begin.

With x360's file system driver on a Linux, one could connect x360's HD (which is recognized by PCs, but not readable atm), transfer every kind of files in and out of it and look how x360 reacts to them. You could fiddle around with the system files and try to figure out the possibilities there. You could try to format a third party HD to the same filesystem and see if x360 recognizes it (which is unlikely though).

The game backups alone don't do a shit for anyone at the moment - they're just a proof of a concept as long as there isn't a software / hw mod available or if someone gets them running on their dev x360's (any news on this yet btw?)

[cONEction]

QUOTE(jizmo @ Dec 11 2005, 11:54 AM)

All the stupidities aside, here's how this tool might be useful. Now that x360 games can be ISO'ed and the contents extracted, figuring out the filesystem used in x360 might be just around the corner. That's where the actual fun would begin.

With x360's file system driver on a Linux, one could connect x360's HD (which is recognized by PCs, but not readable atm), transfer every kind of files in and out of it and look how x360 reacts to them. You could fiddle around with the system files and try to figure out the possibilities there. You could try to format a third party HD to the same filesystem and see if x360 recognizes it (which is unlikely though).

The game backups alone don't do a shit for anyone at the moment - they're just a proof of a concept as long as there isn't a software / hw mod available or if someone gets them running on their dev x360's (any news on this yet btw?)

some interesting points here  

[2K4EVOVIII]

I want to give this a try. So im guessing you get the iso's from the usual places? If not any hints?

Thanx
Chris

[carranzafp]

Hi, here are my 2 cents

I also coded an very fast very little GUI for XBOX 360 dump images. It allows to view the structure an d then select the files to extract

If somebody is interested here is the xbox scene post

http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=469362