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[H311m4n]

Yipikayay count me in as another banned user  

I don't even have gold live, only silver but I guess that was enough to get my good 3 year old xbox banned. If M-BullS think its going to make me buy a new one just because Christmas is almost here they can keep dreaming. Ban me from live if you want, but don't brick my console for it. I do have back-ups, but I also have every game in a legit little green box for f's sakes   , I gave you money MS, although your games are so damn expensive, but still you had to ban me didn't you? Well guess what, Sony will probably get my money next, not you.

Like most people, I don't care about being banned from live itself since I don't care about online, but being able to install games on the HDD is just something I must have since this stupid console is so damn loud.

I've had it with MS. Will use my banned xbox for xbox-only games (like FM3 or Halo) for the rest I have my PC so its not so bad I guess, its just annoying really   .

[H311m4n]

Hey guys, sorry for double posting but this could be of interest to some people.

On an another forum, a guy said his mate called up MS to see wtf was going on and the guy at MS told him that they had detected 1.60 firmware and so they banned him...BUT:

The guy seemed extremely surprised when they told him that it wasn't possible anymore to install games to the HDD and said it must be a "side effect" from their detection method.

MS also said there's nothing they can do about it... so it seems like we got owned because of some bug on their part!

[Z3ro3X]

Same problem with me.  If any one figures out a solution I'd like to hear it.

[H311m4n]

QUOTE(Z3ro3X @ Nov 8 2009, 07:40 AM)

Same problem with me.  If any one figures out a solution I'd like to hear it.

Well the way I see it, the only solutions are:

1. Buy a new xbox and leave it stock to go on live with legit copies and keep your backups for your banned xbox

2. Buy a dead xbox on ebay for 20-40$ and repair it yourself, rrods are essentially caused by overheating, I guess its not that hard to fix (tbh I just bought one yesterday for 30$)

3. Call up MS to ask them what the hell is going on with the HDD, they'll likely tell you that you got pwnd and that there's nothing you or they can do about it. After all we did violate the warranty...but I do wonder if MS had the right to "brick" our consoles the way they did ("brick" in the sense that we can't use our HDDs no more without formatting it. I mean, what's the point of 120Gb if I can't install anything on it... ). As someone said it before, its our hardware, we paid for it and we have the right to do what we want with hit. Hell, if I decide to take a sledgehammer and smash my xbox 360 with it, are they going to ban me from live too?  

4. If you didn't break your warranty sticker, I guess you could try to call MS and say you got a rrod and need your console repaired. If they ask for a bill or anything, tell them you bought the console on ebay and you don't have anything. That's what I did with my xbox 2 years ago (I bought it on ebay and it wasn't modded at the time), it died and they still accepted it. It is probable that they'll send you a new system (at least that's the rumor) instead of repairing it.

5. If even possible (and I don't think it is) we can wait for a fix from someone...

6. Finally, you could ditch your xbox and buy a ps3 but I don't know what those consoles are worth...i know online is free which is pretty cool

[Z3ro3X]

QUOTE(H311m4n @ Nov 8 2009, 08:43 AM)

6. Finally, you could ditch your xbox and buy a ps3 but I don't know what those consoles are worth...i know online is free which is pretty cool

Funny story!  I didn't even pay for this xbox.  My sister gave it to me for watching her dog for 2 weeks.  She didn't pay for it either.  She got it from my brother.  Well, not this exact one.  The one she gave me she got from Microsoft after mailing in the one she got from my brother after it got the rrod.  The one my brother had he jacked from his room mate when he moved out.  His room mate didn't miss it because she was arrested for drugs and trying to run over a cop with her car.

I told my sister not to bother mailing the modded, RRoD, expired warranty xbox to Microsoft because they're not going to fix it.  But she did it anyway and about a week later they mailed us a bran new one (or at least a refurbished one) back to us.  Yeah, I was shocked to.  After the shock wore off I modded that one to and been playing games on it ever since.  The only money of mine Microsoft ever got off me was for the 3 months of live I never used.  I only got live so I can play my cousin and the little turd never got on to play.  Most of the time I had that xbox it still had the old dashboard before it could install games to the HD.

At the end of the day I don't care.  Microsoft can suck a c@ck.  The only time I ever game with other people is either on the same console or through system link and I haven't done a system link in more then a year.  Most of my gaming is single player 90% of the time and the occasional split screen 2 player co-op with a friend or family member.  If I decide to get back to online gaming it's going to be with a PC.  When I was younger I did a lot of online gaming on the PC long before the first xbox came out.  I honestly never saw the attraction of online gaming with DRM infested consoles.

One of these days I'd like to see the gaming community come together and put together the designs for an open gaming console with all open source software and maybe some open source hardware to.  If not the community then maybe we can all get Google to come out with their own console.  I'd buy a console from Google before I buy one from Microsoft or Sony.

[adibose]

same problem here...hope that someone will find a solution at least for using our Hard Drives offline... hate to listen the dvd room noise when I am playing...
if nothing will appear until mid of Dec i will buy a new console (the exiting one I will keep it for spare parts) .....

it must be a glitch or something, in order to cancel the restriction on the HDD-s...

[neverthesame]

Hello everyone, what if:

when 1.7 comes out, you flash your firmware then format the hd on a non-banned xbox, then you recover your gamertag and update the dashboard to the latest. Then put the hd on the banned xbox and see what happend... will the "install game" feature be fixed?

you can try with the 1.51 too (this is my guess if what H311m4n read in other forum is true)


sorry for the bad english  

[benhouli]

some of u said it's the new dashboard that brick the HDD
and if it's true
anyone know a why to downgrade the dashboard the any old version ?

[H311m4n]

QUOTE(neverthesame @ Nov 9 2009, 06:09 AM)

Hello everyone, what if:

when 1.7 comes out, you flash your firmware then format the hd on a non-banned xbox, then you recover your gamertag and update the dashboard to the latest. Then put the hd on the banned xbox and see what happend... will the "install game" feature be fixed?

you can try with the 1.51 too (this is my guess if what H311m4n read in other forum is true)
sorry for the bad english  

Well I have 1.51, but this ban wave obviously targeted everyone with a system that was not 100% legit. I mean, there are people that were banned simply for having a flashed drive but that got banned while playing a legit copy. I don't know, MS really pushed it this time.

I can't remember if I accepted an update for the dashboard last week. In fact the only update I remember about was for FM3 I think...meh anyway, I'm not sure that updating the firmware on the drive to the next version is going to change anything. Something must have been done by MS in the xbox itself to lock the HDD feature and I'm not really sure we'll ever be able to fix that :/

Also, MS perfectly know about "us", meaning people who flashed their drives to play copies. They know the scene is resourceful...as a consequence, if the trick was as simple as downgrading the dashboard then their ban wave would have no point at all  

But we all know how this will go. Its a cat and mouse game. They ban us, we find new ways, they ban us again, we find new ways again etc. and it'll go on like this forever. Pirates probably prefer to buy a new system for a 100$ rather than buying every game for the same price (at least that's what they cost where I live).

[benhouli]

QUOTE(H311m4n @ Nov 9 2009, 12:33 PM)

Well I have 1.51, but this ban wave obviously targeted everyone with a system that was not 100% legit. I mean, there are people that were banned simply for having a flashed drive but that got banned while playing a legit copy. I don't know, MS really pushed it this time.

I can't remember if I accepted an update for the dashboard last week. In fact the only update I remember about was for FM3 I think...meh anyway, I'm not sure that updating the firmware on the drive to the next version is going to change anything. Something must have been done by MS in the xbox itself to lock the HDD feature and I'm not really sure we'll ever be able to fix that :/

Also, MS perfectly know about "us", meaning people who flashed their drives to play copies. They know the scene is resourceful...as a consequence, if the trick was as simple as downgrading the dashboard then their ban wave would have no point at all  

But we all know how this will go. Its a cat and mouse game. They ban us, we find new ways, they ban us again, we find new ways again etc. and it'll go on like this forever. Pirates probably prefer to buy a new system for a 100$ rather than buying every game for the same price (at least that's what they cost where I live).

i have some computers thought...
if i will take new xbox360 that never went to live
and take the HDD connect it to the computer will do "Norton Ghost" on it
and will take the HDD of the banned xbox and will do disk from image ...
u think it will fix the HDD brick problem ?

[H311m4n]

QUOTE(benhouli @ Nov 9 2009, 12:10 PM)

i have some computers thought...
if i will take new xbox360 that never went to live
and take the HDD connect it to the computer will do "Norton Ghost" on it
and will take the HDD of the banned xbox and will do disk from image ...
u think it will fix the HDD brick problem ?

Just to be clear, your HDD is not bricked! You just can't use your banned 360 to install games to it anymore. If you put that HDD in a legit 360 it'll work, you don't need to format it.

Read more here http://xbox-scene.com/  

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The hard drive itself is left untouched - you can place it in another 360, even an unbanned one, and it will still work just fine. You do NOT need to reformat it to regain any kind of functionality.

[benhouli]

QUOTE(H311m4n @ Nov 9 2009, 01:41 PM)

Just to be clear, your HDD is not bricked! You just can't use your banned 360 to install games to it anymore. If you put that HDD in a legit 360 it'll work, you don't need to format it.

Read more here http://xbox-scene.com/  

it's interesting how it recognize that the xbox is banned if the xbox not conneced to the internet anymore and the identification data isn't saved on the HDD (because format doesn't solve it too)

[[email protected]]

The banned data is saved on the NAND not the HDD. When banned the NAND changes the way the console saves data so it will not be recognised on consoles not banned.

[benhouli]

QUOTE([email protected] @ Nov 9 2009, 04:43 PM)

The banned data is saved on the NAND not the HDD. When banned the NAND changes the way the console saves data so it will not be recognised on consoles not banned.

and there is no way to change the data on the NAND?

[PenguinComrade]

kind of funny, no one believed me at first but then the ban wave comes along then everyones on the same boat and now starts to believe. o_o