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Scriber

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« on: November 03, 2008, 09:34:00 AM »
EDIT: Forget to add, would there also be a difference if a bad kreon rip was uploaded to the HDD, compared to a good one? I think this might be the same as asking if security sectors/PFI/DMI/etc would matter in this case(as its not running from the disc).
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juggahax0r420

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« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2008, 10:18:00 AM »
Considering that the DVD drive firmware has to be modified in order to run a backup game i would say it is , almost a forgone conclusion that they added security relating to putting backups on your HDD , if the drive knows the games are burned and won't play them , we just change it so it will play them , then the system already knows that it is a burned game , it has just been told it is ok too play it. Detecting that over a network would be much more difficult than writing a program and adding it too the new dashboard , then sending the information to microsoft. I guess only time will really tell us.
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deathali

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« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2008, 09:27:00 PM »
I installed the new dashboard already. also I installed some games on the drive FIFIA 09, Gear of war 2, silent hill.  I had no problem playing games from the drive YEt!
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Scriber

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« Reply #3 on: November 04, 2008, 02:41:00 AM »
QUOTE(deathali @ Nov 3 2008, 09:03 PM) View Post

I installed the new dashboard already. also I installed some games on the drive FIFIA 09, Gear of war 2, silent hill.  I had no problem playing games from the drive YEt!


Well no I'm not saying you'd have a problem playing the games, I'm sure you can.

I'm more concerned about detection.
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xtalent

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« Reply #4 on: November 06, 2008, 08:20:00 PM »
How do you expect anyone to know this?? Don't even bother asking until after Nov. 19th.
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« Reply #5 on: November 06, 2008, 08:41:00 PM »
QUOTE(xtalent @ Nov 6 2008, 10:56 PM) View Post

How do you expect anyone to know this?? Don't even bother asking until after Nov. 19th.

Because Major Nelson gave out early NXEs to people, and there is a leaked full version out already, you just lose XBL functionality.
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BroomopUK

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« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2008, 07:39:00 AM »
QUOTE(MeanMangoMan @ Nov 24 2008, 10:56 AM) View Post

As of now MS can't get a hash of the entire disk by reading it from your drive. It just would take to long and wouldn't make customers happy. However now that they are reading the entire disc to the drive they can easily know if it is copied or not. The hash they would have at MS headquarters will not match a ripped/burned disk because of all the random padding and patching done. I would install only retail of the disk to your drive and then play with the copy.

this would be flawed though. What happens if you have a ripped copy of a orignal you own for example that was ripped on a iextreme then you go and use your retail console and it will still boot up through the hard drive then. BAM banned its a flawed idea.
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