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throwingks

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« Reply #60 on: April 02, 2007, 04:58:00 PM »

QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Apr 2 2007, 06:56 PM) View Post
As i'm sure he bought his "PC" for that...
I can't speak for everyone but I own an Xbox1 for media streaming to the TV and Stereo in the living room and a PC for internet and gaming. Now that Xbox360 can it will probably be my next big purchase. (Yes, when you have a kid, an Xbox360 is a BIG purchase.)

Just cause somebody doesn't use their equipment like you do, doesn't make it wrong.

It blows my mind why people are hatin' on this. This is the most important thing that could happen. Once Linux is running, it's nothing but a snow ball effect from here. Anything that you want can be done after this point.
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« Reply #61 on: April 02, 2007, 05:12:00 PM »

QUOTE(forzadude2 @ Apr 2 2007, 07:41 AM) View Post


It might be a bit low on ram if you want to run many apps simultaniously, but the livecd isn't swapping with gnome, firefox and emacs (of course smile.gif loaded. Anyways, sound can be done with usb-headset at the moment, but graphics driver isn't up to par as you can't change resolution yet. "


 

I'm curious, I know vista has a way that you can plug in any usb memory stick of a certain size and it prompts to use that as additional ram.  Does any functionality exist for linux and if so could it be used with the 360 to add memory, though I know it won't help much for games but for running multiple apps, I think the speed should be sufficient.

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« Reply #62 on: April 02, 2007, 07:35:00 PM »

QUOTE(Cpas @ Apr 2 2007, 08:58 PM) View Post

The gentoo boot script have no know bugs for now and has no problem to find files on another media. Tser360 posted this because he already did it.

You can find here a kernel i made that will wait for usb device to be mounted if the default kernel dont have the time to, and that should work with usb device formated to ext3, fat32 and ntfs (fat32 drivers correctly added and ntfs not tested). Just follow the tser360 instructions to make it work from usb devices but like he said, i didnt released it for now because usb hdd are buggy right now and can hang randomly.
Also be sure to include the dummy file "livecd" on the usb device since its the file that the gentoo script is search for at the first time.

ftp://linux360:[email protected]



I have had a little play around with this as unfortunatley im a samsung owner.  Now i made the new cd using the kernel you provided above and unplugged my dvdrom as the pengiuns appear, it boots for a while and crashes on "loading gdm" (might not be the precise wording) everytime.  Im using an Ipod Nano to store the LiveCD could this be the problem?

Im itching to see a new GUI on my box, even have a 200gig sata HDD ready to go, once things start speeding up a bit anyway!

Any help is greatly apreciated
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« Reply #63 on: April 02, 2007, 09:14:00 PM »

Could you give me a little help as to how the new CD (for Samsungs) was made. I tried a couple ways but it doesn't get detected. When I use the original, it does get detected, but just hangs because its a Samsung. Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Thanks.
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« Reply #64 on: April 02, 2007, 11:51:00 PM »

QUOTE(Deihmos @ Apr 2 2007, 06:58 AM) View Post

You really think many are interested in this at this point? Judging from the activity here i would say not. There are less than 10 posts from unique members. If we were really interested this thread would be on at least page 6 by now. Since the majority of us already updated to the new kernel and we are not that dumb to buy another xbox just for this.



Okay, you are a dumbass to think no one is interested. People werent posting a lot saying they liked the idea because they were more interested in seeing if it was even worth it yet. Most people dont have enough money to go buy another xbox 360, but if i was rich, i would do it and experiment on it. But untill then, we are cautious about whether its even worth it right now. I mean of there is no sound driver, then sure, its worth it to wait. And people with the samsung drive can do this hack, but it is less secure, and can fuck up your xbox easier. Do you even know how long it took before the xbox 1 hack was even safe??? and even now it isnt completely safe. People procede with caution when its a 400$ item on the line. So thats the only reason people wouldnt do this mod, doesnt mean they arent interested. The only thing thats stopping me is that i dont really want to firmware my drive. And it doesnt look safe at all yet. So watch what you are saying before you say something stupid. I bet veryone that has read your quote thinks you are a complete idiot. and i bet that 90% of the people that have 360's and mod are interested in this.. if not more


Now, for some questions from the experts. How can i find my kernal?? and if i dont want to flash my drive, will this work if i use a NME v1.2 chip, cause i ordered that the other day. Also any perspectives on when this thing would be "safe" by and how many emulators and such are even available?? Any help would be appreciated, thanks.
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« Reply #65 on: April 03, 2007, 04:18:00 AM »

QUOTE(ProphetOfPain @ Apr 3 2007, 05:50 AM) View Post

That's just it.. I myself am not hatin' on it.  I have a 400 gb XBMC halo edition hooked up on my rack right now.  Just tried the vision skin - awesome.  What i'm referring to is the fact of buying a 360 just because it's hacked..  I get it.. powerful, media center, etc.. but you don't have to wait for a console to be hacked to run linux. I also do think it is all very beneficial towards the whole scene as a whole in regards to finding other xploits etc, I just think it's funny to be the only reason to buy a 360, that's all.. smile.gif


Well it might not be the only reason, but it's a good reason.

The main reason is that it's a start. We all have to start somewhere - and it is because of crazy people like us who are prepared to go to extremes and do this stuff and to break new ground that unappreciative people like you get to enjoy the rewards, when finally all of the hacking and testing is out of the way and everything is running smoothly and you can run your cool ass media center/gaming console, play games, run emulators and do all kinds of cool and amazing things that weren't possible before. You think you will still be bitching about it then?

Anyway all I want right now is Samsung support. It is very limiting really that not only do you need to have the right 360 kernel, you also need to have a specific Hitachi drive.

I am sure the community will open up a lot more fully and there will be a lot more activity on the homebrew front, if/when these issues are resolved.

(Which also begs the question - is the Samsung Drive issue actually resolvable? I know there is a kind of USB hack thing going on right now to get things working with the Samsung drives - but apparently this isn't very stable yet?, I'm asking as if the samsung thing isn't going to be resolved for a long time, I may buy a Hitachi drive instead).
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« Reply #66 on: April 03, 2007, 04:33:00 AM »

Nice one, i'm looking forward to seeing this, aswell as further development on the 360 homebrew scene, a nice 360 XBMC sounds nice to me smile.gif

Congrats to all the team working on this stuff.

Cheers beerchug.gif
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« Reply #67 on: April 03, 2007, 04:41:00 AM »

QUOTE(j5350 @ Apr 3 2007, 05:21 AM) View Post

Could you give me a little help as to how the new CD (for Samsungs) was made. I tried a couple ways but it doesn't get detected. When I use the original, it does get detected, but just hangs because its a Samsung. Any kind of help would be appreciated.
Thanks.


To make the cd download ultraiso, open the exsisting LiveCD, remove livecd the squash file and the vmlinux file, leaving only the @XELL file in the image.  Rename the new kernel file to VMLINUX and place it in the iso.  Save and burn.
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« Reply #68 on: April 03, 2007, 05:03:00 AM »

QUOTE(raid517 @ Apr 3 2007, 12:03 PM) View Post

Wait, there is a CD for Samsungs now? I'm confused....


No samsung support still isn't there...  I would imagine it will be soon though! its being worked on...
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« Reply #69 on: April 03, 2007, 07:49:00 AM »

QUOTE(Big_Whoopin @ Apr 2 2007, 12:18 PM) View Post

I brought a printout of this with me when I was searching for a compatible system.
http://www.xbox-scen...lpEEfSZefFv.php

I share BLKMGK's feelings.  I've got multiple Xbox 1 units with XBMC and have been holding off on a 360 till the first signs of homebrew.  On Friday I picked up a used Premium console (no HDD tho, EB/Gamestop returns all those to corporate) with a 2xxx kernel and Hitachi drive.  Came with wireless controller and component cables too which was a plus.  Picked up King Kong so I could rip it and apply the patch. (even if just using it to access an exploit, I believe in owning the software I'll be using)  Still putting the box through some paces while it is under warranty, will crack it open to flash the drive when I'm comfortable it is solid.  Still have a lot of reading to do regarding this since I am nowhere near as knowledgeable with the 360 platform as I am with the original Xbox hardware.  Want to make sure I don't bone anything while tinkering with this pricey new toy.

Big thanks to the minds that have opened up these doors and continue to advance progress!  It's been a long wait.

-Whoopin'


Yup, I'm still coming up to speed too, I'm way behind and pretty ignorant on the 360. When the 360 first came out and the only thing being done was backups and flashing the DVD firmware I ignored it as that's not of interest to me - I want something other than pirated games. However flashing the DVD drive is critical because apparently the silly thing is hardcoded to reject recordable media needed for other hacks - doh! I have seen the graphic you've linked and my drive is one of the ones on the left which means it MIGHT be one of the usable ones. However it looks like it can be one of two manufacturers and I need to open the silly thing to be sure. I have to sweat revision of the hardware on top of that. Even opening these is a PITA it seems but since I may want a black case anyway I guess I'll be getting a tool kit with it. I'd hoped to order a chip at the same time but there are a ton out there and some of them look to be a real bitch to install. I'd like to retain the OEM firmware if possible and just have it flip to the new stuff when recordable media is inserted. Any pointers on this are appreciated to say the least. Fingers crossed it's not a Sammy when I pop the case open since those appear to be a bigger PITA mad.gif

FWIW Linux isn't really my ultimate goal here and I'd bet that it isn't many other people's goal either, perhaps those throwing rocks don't get that. I think most of us would still like to be able to play games made for the system on the system like we can with XBMC now. XBMC is written with the Microsoft  extensions (compiler?) and what the mod chip on those is really allowing us to do is to get past the code signature checks using modified firmware (as I understand it).

Hopefully now that Linux is running on these the process of getting deeper into the hardware is moving forward and at some point unsigned or mis-signed code can be run alongside standard Microsoft signed code, we have to break those checks. I don't actually like that folks developing XBMC have to use pirated compiler extensions and break license agreements but it seems that Microsoft has left us little choice if we want to play in their sandbox. Remember this? Now wouldn't it be sweet to be able to run something like that? Once signatures are gotten past (pretty sure sigs are the big issue) that is the sort of thing we can look forward to along with the likes of XBMC, I wouldn't be surprised if someone has already ported XBMC on a dev platform actually since judging from the MAME port the devs like to have fun too. jester.gif

Anyway, Linux is a stepping stone. I'm quite sure that it's the ultimate goal for some but I'll bet for many it's not. However we'll certainly owe a good deal to those who made Linux possible and expanded the functionality like CPAS has. I hope that efforts to dig into the system further are ongoing rather than tons of focused effort on getting accelerated video and sound. Certainly those things will be important to some but breaking the security that prevents homebrew code from running in the 360 Hypervisor is what I'm, personally, most interested in. Hopefully I've not slighted the Free60 guys here but a kewl Linux box while neat isn't quite what I'm after nor do I simply want to pirate crap.

The aTV guys are getting some things done with bounties and there was the preBootCamp Apple stuff, the TIVO community has done the same in the past too. Has anyone considered organizing bounties or contests for the 360 now that some advances have been made to get code running? Money and competition seem to incentivize people and bring out the underground stuff althoguh sometimes at the expense of free sharing I'm afraid. I for one would certainly be willing to contribute and I'll bet other's would too. CPAS have you got at least got a tip jar somewhere? love.gif

Seriously, my thanks to those who are pushing this forward, please don't let shortsighted fools get you down and know that many of us are delighted at what you have accomplished and hungry for more! cool.gif
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« Reply #70 on: April 03, 2007, 08:10:00 AM »

QUOTE(raid517 @ Apr 3 2007, 01:03 PM) View Post

Wait, there is a CD for Samsungs now? I'm confused....


Not a cd, more of a rough workaround.. you take the exsisting cd from the original post in this thread and modifiy it a bit by replacing the kernel with the USB compatible version and placing the "LIVECD" and the squash file on a form of USB storage.  This can be either a flash drive or usb hard disk as far as i am aware, i use an ipod for example.

The downside of this work around is that you have to physicly unplug the dvd rom when the Linux kernel starts to boot, not to mention the USB functions are a bit buggy.  Not quite a solution yet, but for those of you that are interested in seeing Linux running and dont want to wait for a new firmware/xell mod this is the way to go.

And to the stone throwers, personaly i am not all that interested in using Linux long term, ive always been a windows bitch, what i am interested in is the hacking process, trying to help solve problems and generally furthering the scene.  Eventually this will all pay off, but it wont be for a while, running Linux is a far cry from XBMC or other homebrew apps simply down to the fact that no unauthorised users have access to development tools, or a way of fooling the system into running unsigned xex's.  It may eventually come down to emulating the 360 through Linux running on a 360 to get true xbox apps running.
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« Reply #71 on: April 03, 2007, 10:27:00 AM »

QUOTE(seaweed @ Apr 3 2007, 12:14 PM) View Post

http://www.mythtv.or...me=MythFeatures

Something like that for the 360 would be awesome, lets hope someone will make a mediacenter edition linux for the 360 once drivers and tweaks are in place wink.gif

Agreed! I've stated it elsewhere (in an aTV thread actually!) that what Myth really needs is a standard platform. Build Myth to a standard, cheap, powerful platform and much of the how to get it working stuff goes away and it can be heavily refined like XBMC has been. I honestly expect that the aTV will get that before the 360 just because it has a pretty well developed OS and drivers already ready to go - OSX. Actually Myth on a Mini makes huge sense to me too <shrug> For some reason that idea doesn't seem to be taking off, dunno' why.

If you've not already seen it though checkout this and see if it gets you as excited. THAT is what everyone who has an old XBOX would probably like to see on the new one - ME included! It's 720P capable on the old hardware, on the new it ought to really rock - the aTV appears to be stuck at 720P BTW. Plus that software can play console games, something I do not think the aTV will be doing anytime soon. It's open source just like Myth and I think it's a pretty good competitor that's more geared to a console. With the USB ports on the 360 maybe we'll get a PVR too so who knows.  pop.gif
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« Reply #72 on: April 03, 2007, 02:25:00 PM »

THX !!!! works great form my usb-stick !  biggrin.gif  biggrin.gif  pop.gif  love.gif

is in this linux possible to chance the ip settings like ip and dna ?

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« Reply #73 on: April 03, 2007, 04:34:00 PM »

So i am not sure, maybe it is stated already, or maybe i am just a dumbass. But does this hack actually install linux on my xbox 360, or does it just run a preview of it?
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« Reply #74 on: April 04, 2007, 06:31:00 AM »

Yes, my 360 arrived, patched it allready to the right kernel and im glad it has a hatachi drive. now im just waiting for kingkong to arrive and i can get started.

btw, can i solder any type pf 80GB SATA in my 360 and use that without problems (use the whole 80GB) with linux. (yes i know i cant use it for the 360 software)
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