Topic: Jan 2011 Live Update May Have New Fw Checks? (Read 3249 times)

pesaroso · « **Reply #390 on:** January 23, 2011, 03:48:00 AM »

Quick question:

Is COD:BO, HL and MW2 the only ones affected by this new update? Or is AC:B etc affected as well?

Also, main difference between LT+ 1 and 1.1 is XBOX1, right? I see lots of people replying about "omg, gotta have 1.1, or else it will flag you!!1", this can't be correct?

Thx in advance!

kasperand · « **Reply #391 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:49:00 AM »

Do you guys believe that MS would activate AP2.5 in all the games that have it stored on the disc's? As we saw with reach, mw2, black ops it wouldn't be a huge problem, but just a pain in the ass to re-rip, check and reburn..

sdboltdude · « **Reply #392 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:20:00 AM »

thanks c-4 for your great work...
agbx patch worked perfect im running lt+ w/ lite-on 7..... updated m$ tried blk opps
"black screen" thanks to c-4 xval clean and still play opps in less then 24 hours after update...

and big up's to all the other peps on the scene.....

without the help of c-4 and team members we would be crying over the ban wave not being able to play a couple of games.......

lt+ is doing what c-4 has said all along "STEALTH"

2fast4u88 · « **Reply #393 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:50:00 AM »

QUOTE(juggahax0r @ Jan 22 2011, 08:09 PM)

So they obviously added something to the Kernel that is checking Ap2.5, But the question is why did they just now start using it on those games? Possibly they were testing the water, knowing c4eva would be coming out with a new FW once the AP2.5 check was discovered , now they are seeing just how well he cracked it which obviously pretty well if they just had to rip the AP2.5 info off the games that stopped booting and now they boot again with no new FW.

The couple saying they are having problems with original discs i think you need to look at whether you spoofed a new drive into the system or you just have a failing drive, BUT if you don't have a modified FW and don't ever play any backup games you will not get banned playing an original and it's not going to fail AP2.5 simply because it can't it's got the exact right information that is pressed on every disc of that game. A spoofed Samsung/Hitachi without AP2.5, into something that requires an AP2.5 fw would cause that problem though with an original or a backup as those drives don't have the AP2.5 checks in their FW.

Where did you get the info from for the api check? As it sounds you got proofed wrong on a few pages back. As the guy wasn't on plus but was playing a original blackops. Where the sector I guess got scratched by what he said it failed the api check. I can also confirm it doesn't matter about non plus and plus. As I have my cousins box here running non plus. Which when I told him that I got flagged he grabbed his brothers original. In which it plays fine and not one flag on non plus firmware.

If I didn't want to flag his box. I would prove the above with my copy that isn't patched. Now if I understood you wrong then I stand corrected.

This post has been edited by 2fast4u88: Jan 23 2011, 06:52 PM

Cjc1706 · « **Reply #394 on:** January 23, 2011, 12:40:00 PM »

I have been following this news since the start, and I have kept my console off live and not booted any of the games that require AP2.5. I have also re-burnt all the affected games after passing them through ABGX and having them auto fixed with AP2.5 data.

Question being, now the games have been patched with the AP2.5 data, is it now safe to update my 360 with the new dash ?

Thanks

Chris

juggahax0r · « **Reply #395 on:** January 23, 2011, 01:14:00 PM »

QUOTE(2fast4u88 @ Jan 23 2011, 12:50 PM)

Where did you get the info from for the api check? As it sounds you got proofed wrong on a few pages back. As the guy wasn't on plus but was playing a original blackops. Where the sector I guess got scratched by what he said it failed the api check. I can also confirm it doesn't matter about non plus and plus. As I have my cousins box here running non plus. Which when I told him that I got flagged he grabbed his brothers original. In which it plays fine and not one flag on non plus firmware.

If I didn't want to flag his box. I would prove the above with my copy that isn't patched. Now if I understood you wrong then I stand corrected.

I have news for you. AN original doesn't need patching. My entire statement was based on someone NOT ever having used a burned game. You will not get flagged or banned for a scratch on an original disc, it isn't that picky. The only other thing i said was if you spoofed say a Sammy into a system that was supposed to have a Lite on the Kernel knowing you are supposed to have a lite on would try and run the AP2.5 check but wouldn't be able to because the drive wouldn't support it and that would effect originals. Other than that you weren't actually arguing any of my points.

weelad · « **Reply #396 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:26:00 PM »

QUOTE(juggahax0r @ Jan 22 2011, 04:32 PM)

Seriously don't come on here and talk out of your ass. Their are not 1000's of innocents getting hit in this anyone who got banned has done something to get banned. MS would not release a new check if it would accidentally check a real disc as being a fake, in fact no one in here has made a single post alluding to that.

It's just another play in the cat and mouse game...they will never be able to fully stomp it out too many people. I am interested to know about this boot to game option? My Jtag is on 12611 and still has the option in dash too auto-play a game, i can't test whether it works or not because i use dashlaunch but it seems to me if they had actually removed that option they wouldn't have left the button for it still in the dash.

Is it possible that these checks are being hardcoded on a per game basis into the dash.xex??

So scratched official games can not fail AP2.5 and is there not people making complaints to xbox that there official games fail to load?

alexthegr824 · « **Reply #397 on:** January 23, 2011, 02:57:00 PM »

just wondering, can i still backup xbox 1 games with xbox backup vreator on my kreon flashed drive and will they still play fine? any chance of getting flagged?

Alize · « **Reply #398 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:03:00 PM »

Since this damn update, I've yet to play a game of cod on my unflashed untouched Xbox! Constant spinning discs and freeze ups! Just formatted hard drive and no avail! Can't join Xbox parties either and my Nat is open! Never had problems before....damn updates

smuddge37 · « **Reply #399 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:47:00 PM »

since this new update i am unable to play anything now. not a drive failure tried more than 1 drive.
all games now giving me unreadable disk original or rip on any liteon drive i put in there with any firmware i put in.

prior to me updating dash all games other than nfs, acb worked fine. had LT then. have lt+ now.

i don't know what to do.

also giving me invalid profile if i try to log into live however when i called ms they said console is not banned and i am not first to have this prob. was able to get update for kinect game when i put it in from live all while the profile said disconnected... ?!?!

don't know what to do here. not my console was given it to fix but i am at a loss as to what to do here.

juggahax0r · « **Reply #400 on:** January 23, 2011, 04:50:00 PM »

QUOTE(weelad @ Jan 23 2011, 04:26 PM)

So scratched official games can not fail AP2.5 and is there not people making complaints to xbox that there official games fail to load?

I never said anything about failing to load. Like anything the drive can go bad. I am talking about getting banned from Live. A scratched Original is not going to get these people banned. Checking security is almost always where any disc fails, sometimes a drive won't read games but is fine on DVDs. The only way as i said before that a drive is going to specifically fail AP2.5 on a stock un-modded system is if the drive has been spoofed, then yea you can expect a ban for that, and that technically isn't un-modded even if it is a stock FW.

Also this doesn't necessarily point to AP2.5 checks causing the issue. You all are just speculating. Lets not forget they also fixed the boot to disc feature, maybe they created a bug in the dash that they will have release a hotfix for.

This post has been edited by juggahax0r: Jan 24 2011, 12:53 AM

smuddge37 · « **Reply #401 on:** January 23, 2011, 07:04:00 PM »

QUOTE(juggahax0r @ Jan 23 2011, 06:50 PM)

Also this doesn't necessarily point to AP2.5 checks causing the issue. You all are just speculating. Lets not forget they also fixed the boot to disc feature, maybe they created a bug in the dash that they will have release a hotfix for.

I would say they created a bug for sure.
My console cannot read any disks regardless of firmware(stock or lt+) original disks or backups. nothing after this update.
jasper with liteon v7

mondoman22 · « **Reply #402 on:** January 23, 2011, 08:33:00 PM »

Ok guys,
Just for informational purposes, got back a few xbox's i modded,
Tested the 79 hitachi... Works excellent Benq works Great...
Updated a stock sammy to lt+ Worked perfectly.. Havent gotten
back any liteon's yet, All systems working excellent and
have ran the effected dvd games through abgx and all are
patched and working perfectly.... All systems have a clean
Xval... So needless to say C4eva and the boys done their
part....

Thanks Guys
Mondo

smuddge37 · « **Reply #403 on:** January 23, 2011, 10:02:00 PM »

i only have the one with problems. done probably 15+ with lt+ no issues.

DARKFiB3R · « **Reply #404 on:** January 23, 2011, 11:45:00 PM »

QUOTE

AP25 makes the laser work a lot harder, so it exposes the weaker lasers, and there will be LOTS of weak lasers. This will also expose low quality burns.

So... I would advise people still having problems after updating the dash, and patching the games, to take the following steps.

- Make sure you are using quality discs (Verbatim)
- Make sure your burners firmware is up to date (Pioneer burners are recommended amongst others)
- Clean your drives laser
- Pot tweak you drive (last resort)

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