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QUOTE(americanv8 @ Nov 19 2009, 08:06 AM)

What about the people who've got unmodded consoles & have been banned? Got one in our office at work, store he bought Forza 3 from broke the street date & he played it a few hours early. Result = banned.
He's done nothing wrong.

stop whining, you know M$ ban people for playing games early, if
the copy was purchase legally he should be able to use the receipt
to get himself back on live.

And you really want M$ to revert a million ban for 50 or so people??? Go
take some statistic classes man.

[amak1131]

QUOTE(No_Name @ Nov 18 2009, 10:39 PM)

3: The data is not "corrupt" is blacklisted from use on another console. Plug your drive back in the banned console and it will work without issue. Its only on different consoles that you get the corrupt data results. *At least this what I have gathered is the case)

That qualifies as crippling. I should be able to use MY hard drive, My saves, on any console without the saves being corrupted. M$ is just being a jerk with this.

[BallsOnFire]

Hmmm, with a million banned consoles, I wonder how many people actually call up M$ to request a refund. I still have 3 month left on my 1  year subscription and I have no intention of calling them up for like $10 without hassle.

[rastaman108037]

QUOTE(iceman72 @ Nov 19 2009, 02:09 AM)

Epic fail. Bottom line is if you wanna mod your box then keep it off live. I dont blame Microsoft. Hell I pay for my subscription and games. I dont want to play with some hacks that may have hacked the game or what ever. Who know. But these people are tards for putting hacked 360's on live anyway.

Epic fail, if you had any idea what you were talking about, you'd realize that modders have no way of editing game data. Microsoft would like you to believe we are "haxors" so that you can feel better about sucking so hard at Halo 3. No, you just suck.

[xrkahn76]

QUOTE(xbones @ Nov 19 2009, 12:24 AM)

The person who paid never did anything wrong and they were the one who abide by the contact.. The kids can't be held accountable and the parents didn't do anything wrong..

What world do you live in?  I may not be a lawyer, but I can tell you with no uncertainty, in the U.S. as a parent, you are 100% responsible for what your kids do(under 18) and while a kid may be sent to Juvi for something serious, a Judge can and will hold the parent liable!  Then he will give the parent an earful for not keeping a better eye on their kids.  Same thing applies if the kid takes the car without the parents knowledge and wraps it around a light pole!


It is a sad day for this world as you all expect something for nothing and take Zero responsibility for your actions!

[hassle]

QUOTE(tactical @ Nov 18 2009, 09:09 PM)

Yeah, it doesn't seem like the Law firm knows anything about the bannings, just that lots of 360's were banned.
The live account is still active but the modded xbox can't use the account to access it.  And I believe that MS will refund the money from LIVE that is not used.
I think they are mixing up the EARLY GAME PLAY gamertag ban with the xbox mod ban.  
In either case, I think if they look into this area, that they could come up with interesting way to spin to make a class action suit.

exactly! the subscription is not cancelled without refund. you still have xbox live, just no system to play it on. i think this is stupid! i have had most of customers calling me to get their boxes unbanned, or to put back the original firmware and im getting tired of telling them to screw off, they knew the side effects, and they chose to do it anyways.

its against the TOS and everyone knows it. deal with it.

[Bearhug]

Only in America!

Seriously, you were banned for knowingly breaching the terms and conditions of xboxlive.  Surely your not going to now cry the victim?  Everyone I've ever known to mod a console has known the risk of a ban (The amount of post about the very issue goes to back that up, hell there is even softwaqre designed to help hide the fact your using a copied game).  It's a sad world where people can't learn to take responsibility for their own actions.

As far as the HDD crippling goes, it's not a factory ability, it was supplied as a feature from connecting to live, so again I fail to see your complaint.

The high failure rate early on and M$ initially refusing to repair or replace is the only complaint that has ever been legitimate.  Really people please get a life if you think this class action is resonable on any level.

Additionally, you didn't get a refund as your subscription because it wasn't cancelled, it is fully usuable on a non-banned unmoddified console.  So why exactly should you get a refund?  You still have full access to it!

PS> Yes I got a console banned.

[Toddler]

QUOTE(Puffer @ Nov 18 2009, 11:17 PM)

Lets not forget that the HDD installs are NOT part of the original functionality of the hardware, but an added benefit given by MS through a system update.  So, technically, no they didn't limit the hardware, they returned it to its original state.

If you buy a brand-new 360 and take it home, doesn't it have that system update preinstalled?  What about moving games to a memory card, playing on another console and back again?  If you can those things without ever connecting a box to Live, then they have crippled some out-of-the-box functionality.

[InvidiousDemise]

looks pretty bogus to me... the xbox-live subscription is not banned, the modified ass console was...so... you can still play xbox live, just not on a bullshit console.

I got banned and i'm not bitching. I bought a new box and intend to go out and buy a few of the games that I originally pirated but was too cheap to go buy.

The banned box will either be sold or used to play pirate games. If I decide I want to try the game on live- I will rent it or buy it.

[Muzzakus]

Come now people.  

The barring of a modded thus uncertified console on the network is perfectly fine.  But the crippling of the hard drive & data corruption is a blatant move to devalue the consoles and destroy the secondhand market.  Protect, as well as increase the sales of new consoles during the holiday season.

Furthermore, 360 hardware breaks down from regular use.  Obviously we have no proof but there is a chance it's fragile state was deliberate to create a disposible product.  It backfired by being overly popular and too fragile, a trend became evident with the infamous RROD.  M$ had no choice but to extend warranties at a heafty cost.  The banning of systems on a mass scale voids warranties and saves on the inevidable repair expenses - which would be greater than live subs.

There is shady underhandidness going on here, bolstered by the Class rational of milking subs prior to the bans.  Pirates are wrong, but lets be clear - the corporate greed on display here is unprecedented, and in no way legitimate.

[insanityforall]

QUOTE(InvidiousDemise @ Nov 19 2009, 02:39 AM)

I got banned and i'm not bitching. I bought a new box and intend to go out and buy a few of the games that I originally pirated but was too cheap to go buy.

The banned box will either be sold or used to play pirate games. If I decide I want to try the game on live- I will rent it or buy it.

LOL, I'm doing the opposite.  I PAID for all my games and ripped them due to the rug rats.  (well I have made an extra copy or two for when I have a LAN party)  In my eyes it was the same thing as all four of us playing on one tv Vs. four FULL screens!  However since I'm now dubbed a "pirate"  I have SOLD ALL of my games, and started DOWNLOADING them.  I'm NEVER paying for another 360 game again.  TY Microsoft.  

[Bearhug]

QUOTE(dezfarfa @ Nov 19 2009, 07:31 AM)

This message pertains to any ignorant fool that posted reply's in this thread saying that M$ is right and this lawsuit is bogus! How did you all pass to the 1st grade? Read the details of the suit! IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS OF BANNING MODIFIED CONSOLES! RATHER THE TIMING OF M$ SHUTTING THE ACCOUNTS DOWN WAS TOO CONVENIENT! Let me break it down in leymens terms because I'm sure there will still be some ignorant posts to follow. M$ already had a database filled with those of whom there consoles were modified for quite some time now! They found it in there best interest to wait until the end of the year and take action during the holidays in which blockbuster games were set to be released to make profits skyrocket ten fold. How you might ask? Well, people that have banned consoles are going to purchase ANOTHER console! Not just an Arcade 360 but one with a new HD, meaning $299 straight out of pocket! That on top of the purchase of MW2! If any of you remember the ban that took place last year was also around this time. COINCIDENCE? OF COURSE NOT!! M$ has thee best marketing group on the face of this planet! EVERYTHING IS SET UP TO MAKE MORE MONEY! Let's not forget about the RROD. All M$ did is avoid legal action by increasing there warranty 3 years only to redistribute refurbished consoles with the EXACT SAME PROBLEM! M$ never addressed the core issue! We assume that the Jasper is finally a revision that will out due a 3 year or less life span! Seriously, people M$ does not deserve any sympathy or compassion! Educate yourselves!

Glass houses mate.  Think before you throw that stone.

You seem to want to introduce irrelevant facts as well (RROD has nothing to do with the law suit).  

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IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THE PROCESS OF BANNING MODIFIED CONSOLES! RATHER THE TIMING OF M$ SHUTTING THE ACCOUNTS DOWN WAS TOO CONVENIENT!

Well you see my educated friend it has everything to do with banning of modified consoles (By the way saying process would actually be the word in that statement which is linked to the timings of the bans), and nothing to do with shutting the accounts down, as they are all still active, just not useable on live on the banned console.

So instead of being rude about other peoples opinions how about you stop and think about stuff for yourself.  

So what if M$ chose suitable timing for the ban?  I sure as hell would want impact if I was banning someone using something of mine against the rules as well.  Timing is everything in life my friend, I hope you feel educated now.  Oh and by the way M$ is right and this lawsuit is bogus!

[insanityforall]

OFF topic:

Just had a thought?  Did anyone else get the automated message reminding them it was time to re-up their account, the day before they were banned?    Seriously happened!  Literally the day before they reminded my yr subscription was up in two months, and I needed to re-up it.  Good thing I ignored it...

[Quest]

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Microsoft "conveniently" timed the Xbox console ban to occur just after the release of the new Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 game and less than two months after the release of the very popular Halo 3: ODST game.

the ban wave started almost two weeks before COD:MW2 was released
http://uk.xbox360.ig.../1040853p1.html
http://www.vgrelease...ate-385136.aspx

....nice try

[PRiME2008]

The problem falls in with the fact that MS are going to have lots of Banned consoles circulating out there and people are going to be caught out when its not there fault they bought a second hand console and didnt realise it was banned because of someone elses actions. MS should have stuck to revoking peoples live accounts, sure they can sign up for another but again they must pay to do so. Leave the consoles out of the battle I say and focus on the live users breaking the rules not their consoles because those can be moved around, esp now that there is a million or more floating about.