QUOTE(torbjorn @ Nov 18 2009, 01:03 PM)
but im sure someone will translate it!
Google did:
Last week we wrote about Microsoft's big offensive to address the piracy problem on Xbox 360
There declared that all that had been modified Xbox 360en its risked getting their machine barred from the online service Xbox LIVE.
It has recently come out information that Microsoft also remove features from the Xbox 360 machine. Mon risks losing the ability to install games on your hard disk, but also the ability to play certain video file formats. Thus, removing Microsoft features consumers actually paid for. The irony is that the games you have purchased fully legal will be available on the hard disk.
Is Microsoft doing, in their hunt for people with modified consoles and use of illegal game copies, on the border with Norwegian law?
Well, "said Thomas Nortvedt the Consumer Council to PressFire.no.
No, says Microsoft, adding that they will look at the issue again if it turns out that they operate in the gray or at odds with Norwegian law.
Thomas Nortvedt the Consumer Council
(Photo: CF-Wesenberg/kolonihaven.no)
Frustrated users
We have received many emails from frustrated readers lately, who believes the action may be in conflict with Norwegian law.
It is of NOK Norwegian forum users that the last time, has shared his views about Microsoft's anti-piracy strategy:
- It is criminal to take away features from our hardware on the way, and particularly unfair since it is also so when using the original game.
- Many "pirates" buy the mass games and Downloadable Content, etc. Can not understand why they punish their best customers this way, writing for example martinsen222, on board at modnet.no.
Forum user refers to the removed features that belong to the game console if you get caught as game piracy.
- In addition, removing Microsoft the ability to install games on the hard disk from the console, and also the ability to play games that are already installed on your hard disk. Also with the original disks! Printer martinsen222 further.
In Norway, the owner Mon product you buy, and so has its full right to do what one will with the machine. Also modify it.
The question is how hard Microsoft user agreement LIVE weigh up against the Norwegian law and the Consumer Council's guidelines.
- By law, there are no limits to what can be done with the console itself, it has purchased and owns entirely, "says Thomas Nortvedt the Consumer Council to PressFire.no, but also points out that it is a challenge when there is talk of piracy .
- The challenges arise when the customer needs, apparently not in line with the provider's needs, such as being able to make backup copies of content one uses the console. Such a law also authorized by the copyright law, "he continues.
Country Manager of Microsoft, Tony Renstrøm.
Complicated AGREEMENT is problematic
Country Manager Tony Renstrøm from Microsoft confirmed to PressFire.no that "it is true that the ability to install the game no longer works if you are banned, but the reason is because the" Xbox will no longer be given the opportunity to create approved content "and that there is more information on
http://www.xbox.com/en-US/consoleban.
The document explained that when a machine has been blocked, it will not be able to function in a "Xbox-ecosystem" because the computer can not create saved game files or profiles that can recognize the other Xbox 360 machines longer, and therefore can not save the game and some video files on your hard disk.
Renstrøm also believe that it is their full right to change the offers to the customer if the customer violates the rules, he or she has approved the purchase of the Xbox Live subscription.
- We believe that this is in accordance with consumer agreement the customer accepts when they purchase the console and Xbox Live subscription. This is not a problem unless the user connects on the net, then the console will work as before.
- We have of course experienced lawyers at this and think thus we stay within the rules, but the Consumer Council would reach a different conclusion, then we must take up the dialogue with the Consumer Council to find a solution, "said Tony Renstrøm to Media Fire.
Nortvedt mean it is not so easy. He is critical of the way Microsoft presents its provisions, and after chasing down the pirates by pointing to the rules the company has embodied in a long document that can be difficult to understand i.
- One can not point to a legal document of 13 pages, translated from English, and assume that everyone who uses your Xbox LIVE can be considered valid have entered into an agreement with these particular conditions, says Thomas Nortvedt.
- And when it is in our view is a challenge to set limits for how this bidirectional communication may be used, without the conflict with the regulations governing such matters.
- In all these works use agreements bad to regulate the relationship between buyer and seller, which also appears in a Consumer Council survey recently published, "says Thomas Nortvedt to PressFire.no.
- It is however, that this must be done sparingly, and with it, I believe that measures must be proportionate to what they want to achieve. As you describe the conduct here, it seems that it entered into a "criminal element" in the upgrade, and it seems I do not sound either particularly customer-friendly or long term, "he said.
- Can this anti-pirate initiative from Microsoft to be illegal in Norway?
- The Consumer Council's opinion will be much for that one can unilaterally change the terms of an agreement. More and more systems go over to two-way communication, which in principle is a technical advances, but also opens opportunities for vendors that have had, "said Nortvedt.
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