QUOTE(M0t0rPen1s @ Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM)
Microsoft is forcing many people ( who shall now be forced to play only legit games on a new console ) to defect to SONY . Well PS3 execs must be rubbing their hands in glee. Stupid Microsoft , Losing 1M worth of Live subscribers & Around 20% of that number will defect to SONY.
78% of all statistics are made up on the spot and are complete bullshit. It baffles me how you were able to determine that "around 20%" of banned users will switch to PS3. I'm not even addressing the idea of people switching over, either. I just want to know why you felt compelled to state the number was 20% like it was a fact? Couldn't you just say something like "I have a feeling a substantial number of users will switch?"
By the way, I have no idea how many people will be enticed to switch, but I have a hard time understanding why. I can't imagine why people would simply scrap their entire investment to date, just to start from scratch with another company that many consider to be even worse than MS. There's no advantage, other than the feeling that you somehow "stuck it" to MS. When you consider the investment so far (your time, games, accessories, DLC) plus the fact that you still can't hack the PS3 to play backups anyway, I don't understand why people wouldn't just replace the console itself with a cheap Arcade version and call it a day. 1 banned Xbox for backups and one for online play. Why buy a new PS3 that you don't have any games or accessories for?
QUOTE(M0t0rPen1s @ Nov 11 2009, 09:58 PM)
My advice to everyone is to stay Offline for now & try to be back online when iXtreme 1.7 is out
That's probably irrelevant since so many consoles have probably been flagged already. I don't think the stock firmware would save people at this point, let alone a different hacked firmware. It may be helpful to someone who just got a new Xbox, but I doubt it will mean anything to someone who's Xbox has already been hacked.
QUOTE(The Dude Z @ Nov 11 2009, 11:15 PM)
I can assure you the 20 Million Xbox Live users is BS!
Thank you! At least you are wise enough to question statistics that are usually bullshit.
QUOTE(The Dude Z @ Nov 11 2009, 11:15 PM)
So you can easily cut that figure in half or less considering 80% or more have created more than 1 account.
Oh, why'd you have to go and make a ridiculous statement like that? You have no idea how many users have created multiple accounts, so why try to give it a percentage?
QUOTE(krawhitham @ Nov 12 2009, 12:20 AM)
and 90% never bought games, MS is not losing much by banning people. As a bonus they are making the game manufactures very happy right now
Did you pull that figure right out of the pirates handbook? What technique did you use in order to determine how many pirates actually buy games? I find it very, very hard to believe that 90% of people who have modded Xboxes never bought a single game (and I'm not even talking about DLC). I'd be surprised to learn that even
10% of those people didn't buy one game.
Also, the word you were looking for is "manufacturers" (manufacture is a verb). Even if manufacturers claims to be "happy," I really doubt this has any type of impact on their bottom line. If anything, I'd bet it has a negative impact since those people won't be able to purchase any more DLC, and if they never replace their banned console, they won't ever need to buy another game at all (yes, pirates still buy things).
I feel compelled to also point out that every pirated copy of a game does not equal a lost sale. There is no guarantee that person would ever buy it if they didn't get it for free or much cheaper.
Maybe this information can help you come up with some new stats.
QUOTE(realitybytes @ Nov 12 2009, 01:07 AM)
I state again, microsoft will definatually have done the maths long before going ahead with any of this. If microsoft is happy with the decisions they have made, then why is it of any concern to you and others what revenues they may or may not lose out on? Ultimately it is their choice, we just have to accept it as there is noway of changing anything, surrounding these bans and getting back on xbl with those consoles. It is what it is, no need to pick up and even go as far to make presumptions as to what revenue sources they will lose out on.
It is never gonna happen one day MS boardroom, " we are losing too much money from dlc because we banned 1 million consoles", "ok well lets not ban again"
Absolutely true. Thank you for pointing this out. I think the reason so many people state the opposite is that it makes them feel better about the situation, like getting banned wasn't really their fault because Microsoft made a huge error in doing so. It's really the equivalent of a child who gets in trouble and tells their parents "you'll miss me when I'm gone," as if their parents just haven't thought this punishment thing all the way through.
No, we all know that users here don't have some inside information about how business works that Microsoft hasn't thought all the way through.
Personally, I agree with what many here have guessed - that Microsoft is doing this now (just like every year) in order to increase holiday sales. I understand the business decision and I know they've discussed every possibility, but I just don't agree with it. Sure, it won't hurt the current console's sales, but it may hurt them when it comes time to release their next generation console, since that's when so many gamers usually make the switch to a different brand. Most people won't switch in the middle of a console's life cycle (which is why so many banned users will still buy another 360 now, even though they're cursing Microsoft). I, and so many of my friends, switched from the PS2 to Microsoft at the last juncture. I had no interest in the 1st Xbox, but the PS3 didn't seem so great to me at that price and I wanted to try real online gaming, so I went with the 360.
QUOTE(DjCalvin @ Nov 12 2009, 01:56 PM)
Just flashed last week liteon 1.6 - haven't plugged it into the network yet.
waiting...
Hate to say it, but you picked the absolute worst time to flash. Not wise to do it in the middle a ban flood.
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