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[acidover]

This is a brave move. After being a total m$ fanboy, my modded 360 got banned this week. I still have an unmodded 360 & a ps3, but today I found myself buying the ps3 COD MW2. I would never have bought PS3 over 360 before.
I spend a small fortune on genuine games for both, always buying 360 over my PS3, but now with so little between the consoles anyway, i think i'll be supporting my PS3.
I understand m$ position, however is now really the right time for them to be so aggressive against fw users? They've not appeared to be 'that' bothered against us in the past. Is it possible they could be alienating some of their core users over to the other side?
I never play my modded console on xbox live. It's connected to live, but I have never gone online playing any back ups. It seems strange that they'd want to lose my gold membership fee which is only used to send a few messages to friends. Now they'll get nothing from me & future purchases will be for my PS3.
On a positive, it was great when it lasted.

[amak1131]

Woah, double post:| Slow server, see below. Sorry.

This post has been edited by amak1131: Nov 11 2009, 01:19 AM

[amak1131]

QUOTE(xpn @ Nov 10 2009, 04:54 PM)

and most people are indeed stealing by downloading games

Rofl, not sure what I wanna say. I'll just simply put that downloading a game is not equal to stealing. Even that short of a response is too dignified for that comment.


Looks like M$ was waiting and caught many of us with our pants down. Not too much to worry about, though. The modders always win and they will once again. I'm confident that c4eva will be releasing a big "f you!" to M$ soon enough:D

[DiscoveryX360]

QUOTE(acidover @ Nov 10 2009, 07:03 PM)

This is a brave move. After being a total m$ fanboy, my modded 360 got banned this week. I still have an unmodded 360 & a ps3, but today I found myself buying the ps3 COD MW2. I would never have bought PS3 over 360 before.
I spend a small fortune on genuine games for both, always buying 360 over my PS3, but now with so little between the consoles anyway, i think i'll be supporting my PS3.
I understand m$ position, however is now really the right time for them to be so aggressive against fw users? They've not appeared to be 'that' bothered against us in the past. Is it possible they could be alienating some of their core users over to the other side?
I never play my modded console on xbox live. It's connected to live, but I have never gone online playing any back ups. It seems strange that they'd want to lose my gold membership fee which is only used to send a few messages to friends. Now they'll get nothing from me & future purchases will be for my PS3.
On a positive, it was great when it lasted.

oh no, you've been wronged so badly by microsoft poor you.

rofl.

[azuziel]

QUOTE(amak1131 @ Nov 10 2009, 07:18 PM)

Rofl, not sure what I wanna say. I'll just simply put that downloading a game is not equal to stealing. Even that short of a response is too dignified for that comment.
Looks like M$ was waiting and caught many of us with our pants down. Not too much to worry about, though. The modders always win and they will once again. I'm confident that c4eva will be releasing a big "f you!" to M$ soon enough:D

Ok tri-click  

Doesn't suprise me they're aiming high.  

Seems to me MS is almost so busy with live, they've forgotten the war on pirated copies of 7....

c4eva has alerady started the new fw (likely a week ago), within a few weeks, you'll all be back to giving e-bags on halo3.

[pinkerton]

MS madness!! I see this as a million banned xbox's changing hands and replaced with a newly modded box.
All they seem to be doing is INCREASING the amount of modded boxes!!

[The_Flash]

QUOTE(xpn @ Nov 10 2009, 07:54 PM)

You can't bitch and wine when your xbox is banned or even broke after you have had so many games for free.

Bitch & Wine is what I did this past Saturday night.  I think you meant bitch and whine?
(Sorry, couldn't resist)

[trentdadi]

QUOTE(acidover @ Nov 11 2009, 01:03 AM)

This is a brave move. After being a total m$ fanboy, my modded 360 got banned this week. I still have an unmodded 360 & a ps3, but today I found myself buying the ps3 COD MW2. I would never have bought PS3 over 360 before.
I spend a small fortune on genuine games for both, always buying 360 over my PS3, but now with so little between the consoles anyway, i think i'll be supporting my PS3.
I understand m$ position, however is now really the right time for them to be so aggressive against fw users? They've not appeared to be 'that' bothered against us in the past. Is it possible they could be alienating some of their core users over to the other side?
I never play my modded console on xbox live. It's connected to live, but I have never gone online playing any back ups. It seems strange that they'd want to lose my gold membership fee which is only used to send a few messages to friends. Now they'll get nothing from me & future purchases will be for my PS3.
On a positive, it was great when it lasted.

Apparently now is the time if 600k people have really been banned so far.  Think about it... the price of a new game is 60$.  If all 600k of them people pirated one game, that would be a 36,000,000$ loss  (Saying each person only pirated one game is being very kind, think how quickly it adds up if that 1 game turns into 10).  Banning 3% of their customer's consoles is a loss they are probably plenty willing to take.  They are only protecting themselves AND all the companies who develop games for their consoles.  I personally applaud Microsoft for these bans.

This post has been edited by trentdadi: Nov 11 2009, 01:33 AM

[kainy]

Almost every modded console from our little comunity was banned...

If the information on the american xbox.com site is right, my console is banned too (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) ( the UK xbox.com says otherwise but... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) )

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Banning 3% of their customer's consoles is a loss they are probably plenty willing to take.

In my personal oppinion banning is not a loss, but a gain... We all think that M$ has no gain in banning us, 'cause we pay for Live, but there are more points of view. I'm proof for one of them.

Somewhere arround the banwave, I've decided to get a unmodded xbox 360, for sake of playing online undisturbed. Until recentrly I wasn't able to afford buying games. Now I can but this banwave was the catalist, that pointed me to that direction. So I decided to have a modded + original xbox 360 ( ps3? are you creazy (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ), even when I wasn't banned ( still don't know if I am ). So now M$ not only kept me with paying for Live ( with not banning my account ), but made me give 213 pounds ( Elite 120gb + MW2 + Dragon Age Origins + Lego Batman + Pure + Black Wireless Controller = best Amazon.co.uk deal ever (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) ) for a second console.

So to summerize: All modded console give M$ 60$ for using Live. When M$ banns most of these consoles, they can hope that most of their owners are already addicted playing on Live, and that most of them are ready to buy another console which is a 200$ minimum gain. So if 1 of 4 people who got banned, buys a new console, M$ are on the clear with selling new console, rather than selling only Live, an plus that every new purchase brings with it a continued Live membership, so they sell new consoles + Live for the 1 of 4. If it comes to 2 of 4 and more... you do the math (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

Yes there is the risk, where someone will migrate to PS3... but suckers are found all over the place (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) and they can be from the other 3 of 4.



Things people can do when banned:
- continue playing offline
- buy new console ( + $200+ for M$ + Live if they migrate to an original box )
- go to PS3
- kill themselves (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif)

Well... just an theory (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)



Offtopic: Could you point me to an certain way to know if I'm banned without connecting to Live with my console and without using the Repair Service?

This post has been edited by kainy: Nov 11 2009, 01:48 AM

[bananaboi]

This is actually bad for Microsoft in the long run.. although many will buy another xbox, i bet most will just cancel their monthly membership with xbox live and stick with offline gaming

[Derfuhrer]

This ban has been along time coming, in that many were likely flagged a while ago. Besides the ban wave happens this time each year, no surprise there. What is surprising is the ferocity and vast numbers of units banned.  Those that are crying...get over it you had a free ride while it lasted.

Timing is perfect by MS as many great titles out before xmas...people will be buying new consoles now. Also MS must be seen by developers as actively doing something against piracy..this proves it!

[Charbless]

Microsoft this year when it comes to 360 have turned in to right d**ks and have shown all they care about is profit.

bumping console price up in uk
banning people and refusing to say why
discontinuing 60gb pro (even if under year warranty stores refuse these by ms orders)

If the 1million figure is correct which I would say it may even be low it would make sense eliminate the pre own market of old consoles and dont have to cover your 3 year for rrod so they dont have to deal with 1million plus consoles when they break.

[CardnalSyn]

QUOTE(haqtiq @ Nov 10 2009, 05:23 PM)

Not to be a dick, but I was born this way.. why dont 400k more people download that poisoned copy of MW2 and get this ban wave over ASAP!

To kill a huge number of the live customer base is crazy, but at the same time the logic is sound, and they ARE fighting the plague known as piracy. I can't say I like or dislike it, but I do know without a doubt that this is needed, more to make an example of people, and also reassurance for the legit customers.

So again.. make sure you log into live with the poisoned copy of MW2, get banned, save the rest of us.

You have to crack a few eggs to make an omelet.

Since you obviously haven't payed attention, its has nothing to do with one game. I haven't even played MW2 and haven't been on live since Aug and i still got banned. So while ur clowning people, please be advised that you are still at risk. As far as buying another 360, fuck it. Ill wait until all this stuff is sorted out and there is an undetectable firmware or whatever. Until then, ill still play backups, and if i want anything that badly (like MW2) ill buy it for PS3.

This post has been edited by CardnalSyn: Nov 11 2009, 01:35 AM

[Halcyon-X12]

I'm sure it'll be after the holidays... they have to wait for people to use their live! subscription cards first!