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[Hotsauce0034]

Asked this question a few times earlier in a few other threads, the answers I got are the ones Ferrari has already posted here. The only thing I can add would be that Microsoft might be able to suspend your account if they detect you are getting achievements early. When I asked about this, I was told to just modify the consoles date to a future date of the games release, the game you are playing obviously, before getting achievements on said game.

[Pedroshin]

QUOTE(ferrari 360 @ Nov 9 2009, 02:03 AM)

From another thread

i think it's the dlc content that is tied to individual consoles."

Could you explain that, "tied"? Do you mean we have to buy or download all the DLC again??

Or do we just transfer the license to the new unmodded console and the DLC that is already in the HDD can be used just fine?

This post has been edited by Pedroshin: Nov 9 2009, 08:22 AM

[erod550]

I've been doing what the OP is asking since the 2007 ban wave right before Halo 3 dropped up until about a month ago when banned consoles started corrupting things.  Now, if the console is banned, you cannot switch between it and an unmodded console because your gamertag and saves will be corrupted by the banned console. It should work fine with a modified unbanned console though.  The consoles only corrupt gamertags and saves once they realize they are banned.

As for DLC, some of it doesn't care which machine you use it on, while other DLC will only work on the console it was downloaded on and may also require a connection to Xbox Live. Prince of Persia is an example of DLC that I tried downloading on an unbanned box and playing on a banned launch console many months ago and it would not play on the banned console. There's no one rule for DLC though, some works on other boxes some doesn't.

This post has been edited by erod550: Nov 9 2009, 08:30 AM

[ferrari 360]

QUOTE(erod550 @ Nov 9 2009, 01:29 AM)

I've been doing what the OP is asking since the 2007 ban wave right before Halo 3 dropped up until about a month ago when banned consoles started corrupting things.  Now, if the console is banned, you cannot switch between it and an unmodded console because your gamertag and saves will be corrupted by the banned console. It should work fine with a modified unbanned console though.  The consoles only corrupt gamertags and saves once they realize they are banned.

As for DLC, some of it doesn't care which machine you use it on, while other DLC will only work on the console it was downloaded on and may also require a connection to Xbox Live. Prince of Persia is an example of DLC that I tried downloading on an unbanned box and playing on a banned launch console many months ago and it would not play on the banned console. There's no one rule for DLC though, some works on other boxes some doesn't.

I can not thank you enough! This is exactly the info I am looking for. I disconnected my modded 360 to avoid a ban and picked up a legit system for Online play, Very glad I do not need another HDD.

[opal]

What with the console that is modded but it has been banned a year ago? Can it still be used to gain achievements?

[majinsoftware]

Aslong as they dont have the last 2 updates.

[aWholeNewMe]

So this is what I am going to do. But here is my question (based on this claim in another thread)-

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Its already been figured out that you can restore hd functionality with restoring a backup of your nand that you made before being banned. This is all a moot point since microsoft adds banned consoles to a list included with each update including on game discs. Which means if you restore your 360 to hd install functionality with restore of nand, the next update on a game disc or a friends hd will disable it again. Google. Crl.bin revoked consoles list update.

SO if this is true, is it not possible (although I have not heard of it yet), that my 360 is already flagged, and possibly already marked for ban. So even though it has not been banned yet, and will never connect to live, it COULD get banned from playing a new game or receiving the "ban" list from the HDD used on the un-modded Xbox 360?

[foxhunt99]

MS will probably add some kind of check on game disc itself, so if even you use a backup offline on a unbanned modded console it will somehow figure it out, and save the info and send to MS next time when you connect to a live using a unmodded console.

[aWholeNewMe]

QUOTE(foxhunt99 @ Nov 9 2009, 12:29 PM)

MS will probably add some kind of check on game disc itself, so if even you use a backup offline on a unbanned modded console it will somehow figure it out, and save the info and send to MS next time when you connect to a live using a unmodded console.

Yes but will it then send the ban to my HD (or new game disk) and ban my offline console the next time the HD is attached?

This would mean flagged consoles (and we have no idea if we are flagged or not so any modded system that played on Live) that never go online anymore would still be under constant threat of being banned at any time when doing any of the following -

- Playing a new game
- Using a HD from a unmodded system that goes on Live
- Updating dashboard from USB


This post has been edited by aWholeNewMe: Nov 9 2009, 06:53 PM

[3-ranger]

as i understand...but nobody knows it 100%...

Not to copy older savegames (played pre-releases and active.iso) from an unbanned-offline xbox to another online-unflashed xbox?

In that case i could be that microsoft banned a second time?

[ryochan]

Great topic!

I would actually even push further and ask if it's 100% safe to play offline a non banned flashed 360, and online legit 360, with both machines having their own hard drives, and I would just swap my profile on a memory card.

Any thoughts on this method?


Thanks

[Sms4001]

Hey so i am a little confused I have an arcade that just got banned (its got 256 mem built in and a 120gb HD) I have saves for games on both of them. If i transfer the saves to a new console.. will they work with my profile when i recover it on the new console? I was level 49 on borderlands when i got banned and I am really hoping that the saves will work!

[kalon]

QUOTE(Sms4001 @ Nov 9 2009, 05:15 PM)

Hey so i am a little confused I have an arcade that just got banned (its got 256 mem built in and a 120gb HD) I have saves for games on both of them. If i transfer the saves to a new console.. will they work with my profile when i recover it on the new console? I was level 49 on borderlands when i got banned and I am really hoping that the saves will work!

If you logged into Live and got the ban message, then your saves will be corrupt. If you found out you were banned or assumed you were banned and boycotted Live before this happened, presumably your saves are fine.

This post has been edited by kalon: Nov 9 2009, 10:33 PM

[drewZen]

QUOTE(kalon @ Nov 9 2009, 09:32 PM)

If you logged into Live and got the ban message, then your saves will be corrupt. If you found out you were banned or assumed you were banned and boycotted Live before this happened, presumably your saves are fine.

I can confirm this, my gamertag and gamesaves were corrupt when i plugged my hdd into an unbanned 360. Also all my arcade purchases turned to trial. I have not tried to recover gamertag on unbanned console yet to see if saves will be ok... anyone else have some on hands info to this? And i assume you can just redownload purchased games once gamertag is recovered.

This post has been edited by drewZen: Nov 9 2009, 10:46 PM

[mhouldey]

QUOTE(foxhunt99 @ Nov 9 2009, 05:29 PM)

MS will probably add some kind of check on game disc itself, so if even you use a backup offline on a unbanned modded console it will somehow figure it out, and save the info and send to MS next time when you connect to a live using a unmodded console.

Yes, but this isn't against the ToS as far as I can see.  Playing backups on a modded console and originals on Live on another console is not against the ToS.  I'm not saying MS wouldn't ban you, but you shouldn't be banned, as I don't see what rule you are breaking.

I'm sure someone wil chirp in with something from the moral highground.  All I am interested in is a good argument as to why the unmodified console deserves to be banned.

QUOTE(aWholeNewMe @ Nov 9 2009, 05:53 PM)

Yes but will it then send the ban to my HD (or new game disk) and ban my offline console the next time the HD is attached?

This would mean flagged consoles (and we have no idea if we are flagged or not so any modded system that played on Live) that never go online anymore would still be under constant threat of being banned at any time when doing any of the following -

- Playing a new game
- Using a HD from a unmodded system that goes on Live
- Updating dashboard from USB

I think it is clear that nobody has been banned without being connected to Live (read: while trying to connect to or while currently using Live).  Therefore, I find it unlikely that an unbanned console which has been permanently taken offline would ever get banned by any means.  I don't believe the HDD would ever transfer some kind of banning software and I don't believe that an original game would ever contain such software.

I have no proof, but it seems logical (to me) to believe what I do.