Topic: Safe Ban Check (Read 1847 times)

blizzard122189 · « **Reply #60 on:** November 06, 2009, 04:45:00 PM »

It is safe to use the old HDD as long as your old machine has not received the ban message yet. Even if it is banned, as long as you have not connected to actually get the message and the NAND flag you are all good. If you connect then you are screwed, and you have to get a new modded machine if you want to switch your profile back and forth.

3-ranger · « **Reply #61 on:** November 06, 2009, 04:46:00 PM »

QUOTE(Beetlebug @ Nov 7 2009, 12:34 AM)

I'm doing this. Although are you sure it's safe to use the old harddrive on the new machine? I was planning to start fresh with an elite 120gb, but if I can use my old harddrive I'll buy an arcade instead.

One Question...

Could i use my 250 GB HD with the Arcade Version?

I Thought the Arcade Version is not able to be plugged with a HD.

thx

brenerrr · « **Reply #62 on:** November 06, 2009, 04:52:00 PM »

The 'check repair support' isnt precise .

And the connectivity test is dangerous , a guy from a forum did that and got banned .

Beetlebug · « **Reply #63 on:** November 06, 2009, 05:28:00 PM »

QUOTE(blizzard122189 @ Nov 7 2009, 12:45 AM)

It is safe to use the old HDD as long as your old machine has not received the ban message yet. Even if it is banned, as long as you have not connected to actually get the message and the NAND flag you are all good. If you connect then you are screwed, and you have to get a new modded machine if you want to switch your profile back and forth.

Sounds good. I'll get a new arcade 360 then and just use my current HDD between them. My current non-banned 360 (but probably banned if I try to sign in) will forever be offline from now on.

QUOTE(3-ranger @ Nov 7 2009, 12:46 AM)

One Question...

Could i use my 250 GB HD with the Arcade Version?

I Thought the Arcade Version is not able to be plugged with a HD.

thx

Of course. All 360's can use harddrives.

3-ranger · « **Reply #64 on:** November 06, 2009, 05:34:00 PM »

QUOTE(Beetlebug @ Nov 7 2009, 01:28 AM)

Sounds good. I'll get a new arcade 360 then and just use my current HDD between them. My current non-banned 360 (but probably banned if I try to sign in) will forever be offline from now on.
Of course. All 360's can use harddrives.

thx.

I think about to kept the modded and still unbanned Super Elite 250 GB forever Offline. Console is only 1 week old but i wont to try it online. This i will use for offline and buy a Arcade for Online Gaming.

If the unbanned is still not detected, should a back-flash to the original save the console from the ban? Could it be?

magusdraco · « **Reply #65 on:** November 06, 2009, 06:30:00 PM »

All 360s but the original arcades that had the internal hard-drive could use hard-drives.

...unless that original arcade had a hdd slot anyway.

m4sterchi3f · « **Reply #66 on:** November 06, 2009, 07:32:00 PM »

I have two consoles registered, one with a warranty and one without, both getting the Repair Request error, but both still connecting to Xbox Live just fine. I guess I have been flagged, right? Or is this method not entirely accurate as there seems to be a lot of evidence for and against its accuracy...

majinsoftware · « **Reply #67 on:** November 06, 2009, 07:44:00 PM »

IMO its not accurate. Just tryed it on my banned xbox and its gone though fine. Now they are expecting me to send it in lol. Yet a few days ago was doing a warranty for a mates xbox which got rrod from power surge and it wouldnt work, Had to do it over phone.

I think there website has just gone poo.

blizzard122189 · « **Reply #68 on:** November 06, 2009, 07:59:00 PM »

There doesn't seem to be any real test. Basically, if you value the ability to play burned games, then unplug, get a new machine for live, and do it that way. Otherwise when you get banned, and you will eventually, you will need either a new machine and mod it and hope it lasts without a ban, or 2 new machines, 1 to mod and one not.

After you get a ban message now the Xbox is basically useless.

Derfuhrer · « **Reply #69 on:** November 06, 2009, 08:12:00 PM »

The link to xbox.com is not valid. I clicked and got the error, yet I can still connect to live.

A more accurate test can be found here Xbox Live Ban Test

majinsoftware · « **Reply #70 on:** November 06, 2009, 08:17:00 PM »

Yeah but even doing the connection test and if it comes up your banned it will trigger the disable hdd flag.
So you still end up losing all the same things as if you connected when signed in to a profile.

royal88 · « **Reply #71 on:** November 06, 2009, 08:51:00 PM »

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Nov 6 2009, 10:17 PM)

Yeah but even doing the connection test and if it comes up your banned it will trigger the disable hdd flag.
So you still end up losing all the same things as if you connected when signed in to a profile.

So by cancelling the request to install the update (as described in the steps) you aren't negating the flag that nukes your HDD functionality? I figured that process, and thus the point of the tutorial, was to avoid all that.

As for me, I initiated a repair on my console 2 days ago which worked fine and was not banned at the time (went to pull down and price etc) but when trying yesterday I get the "Service unavailable - id=54420" message. I try the same thing on a virgin arcade also under my login and voila goes right through to pull-down and price.

Here's what I'm speculating (PURE speculation):

The system they use for registering, initiating repairs, changing your console is all an 'app'. Webserver talks to --> app server --> makes call to DB issuing a select statement of some kind that returns an unknown value because your console_status flag has been flipped to whatever they use to designate a ban. The 'app' has no idea how to interpret this value. If the active status is something it recognizes it knows how to proceed but in the case of a banned console it simply defers to "service unavailable". This is one of those "overlooked" items as the team that supports the xbox.com application infrastructure could be completely different than the ban hammer folks. It would have made sense for them to patch this (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

It saved my HD and much aggravation, so for that I'm thankful.

3-ranger · « **Reply #72 on:** November 07, 2009, 03:09:00 AM »

Hi.

I tested it now and deny the update during the/after the test.

My Code is

Z: 8015-1002

I will not connect to xbox live and wait for a solution.

Neo_JL · « **Reply #73 on:** November 07, 2009, 11:49:00 AM »

i go to xbox.com, support, register console..
fill the information and my SN..
then this screen will appear..

(IMG:http://img248.imageshack.us/img248/393/bannedf.jpg)
This is mine..
Is this mean i've been banned?
I don't wanted to check it with console, cause im afraid my hdd get banned too..

This the green one, as u can see the expired date not end yet..
(IMG:http://img405.imageshack.us/img405/5740/survived.jpg)

Zod5000 · « **Reply #74 on:** November 07, 2009, 01:18:00 PM »

you wouldn't be able to download the update if you were banned? When your banned you can't get updates?

So if its telling you to do an update, I'm guessing your not banned. That was my case yesterday.

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