QUOTE(garyopa @ Nov 8 2009, 11:23 PM)
The problem is no one seems to understand clearly, what is happening here.
Your console is banned from LIVE becaused it was clearly modded.
As such to protect the legit users of LIVE, M$ in some cases (not all bans), can REVOKE your ConsoleID, when they do so the following will happen ontop of the ban:
Gamesaves will appear "corrupted" on a legit console, or another ban console, other then you own,
people just don't understand the actual contents of the "GameSave" does not change in anyway,
it does not get "corrupted" by M$, what has happen is your ConsoleID has been REVOKEd by M$,
this means, all other Consoles will not understand your Gamesaves since they were signed by the
original banned console which now has been added to a list of REVOKEd ID's, this list is included in
all future dashboard updates, and gets stored in ever single console out there, to stop you from using
"revoked" gamesaves, etc. on legit untouched console (or for that matter other banned consoles).
You can continue to use all your gamesaves with no problems on your banned console, you just can't
take them to a legit console, since because of the ban, all other consoles have been told not to talk
with a REVOKEd ID, so it will display as corrupted on any other console other then the original ban console.
You can save your gamesaves, by just unplugging your HDD after the banhammer has hit, before playing
any using any gamesave on your banned console, and then deleting your profile on your new legit console,
and then using the recover gamertag function, this will force all your gamesaves to be resigned or moved
over to your new legit console as long as they have not been recently played on your banned console after the banhammer hit it.
This is to prevent you from using your hacked games, or other means on your banned console to increase your gamerscore and to gain new achievements using your banned console.
The logic and common sense is so damm simple, and yet post after post I keep seeing people complaining,
about how can M$ corrupt my stuff, it is my stuff, they have no right, I am going to sue them. -- God I am getting so tried of this stupid posts it is not funny. M$ has ever right, they are protecting LIVE from the thousands of bad apples out there, I am glad people can't cheat and use their banned console to play with their gamesaves, etc. anymore, that is one from a while now, M$ can besides banning REVOKE your ID.
Now to be fair, not everyone that gets hit with the banhammer also gets the REVOKE hammer, you have to be real bad to get both hammers throw at you, and then there is the complete third all powerful hammer, the "gamertag" one.
Now as for the they can't remove features like installing games to the HDD, that is not right. -- In all truth, M$ has not really done that, it is just a side-effect of the REVOKE hammer, because the dashboard needs to sign certain files when copying the game data to the HDD, and the part of the OS it calls looks at the REVOKE list and comes back saying this is not supported. -- M$ might fix that glitch or side-effect in the next dashboard update, but I doubt they are going to put it up on the top of the list just because of a bunch of whining pirates complaining about their banned console.
i just have a few questions though (i'm not debating you, i'm just looking for clarification on a few points.
1. it has been said that if you get banned, your gamesaves get corrupted WHEN you access them from the banned box. in other words, the understanding that i have read is that if you get banned, and immediately move your harddrive over to a new unbanned system, your saves will work fine. if you try to access the game saves from the banned box, then move it over, then it will show up as corrupted. if that understanding is correct, what is the difference? the console key would be the same before the ban as it would be after.
2. the revoke list gets updated via an upated list bundled with dashboard updates, correct? (i have read this somewhere previously, you would know better than i would if its true or not) if so, how are all the newly banned systems getting revoked immediately?
3. if what is happening is indeed a console key revoke, would it be possible to have an old system that doesn't go online (so the client revoke list doesn't get updated) resign the saves and profile? for example if someone has an unstable system that RRoD's frequently, but is stable enough to run at the dashboard for a little while.
like i said, i'm not arguing your post, just looking for a little clarification.
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