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[kingatrock]

They say they can detect copies of that game specifically being played early (even if its a legit disc). I take it as they're doing what they did with the crackdown/halo3 beta, just putting some bait out and waiting for the fish to bite. They can't detect anything more than that.

[Ranger72]

QUOTE(DARKFiB3R @ Sep 3 2009, 08:45 PM)

Oh shut up Ranger72. I don't know how much money you've made from modding consoles, but who do you think most (if not all) of your customers are?

You seem to have a pretty low standard to what you believe is the moral level of the general population.

Just because someone buys a car that can go 150mph does not mean we have roads full of idiots that drive 150mph.

[Norco]

QUOTE(Ranger72 @ Sep 4 2009, 02:43 AM)

You seem to have a pretty low standard to what you believe is the moral level of the general population.

Just because someone buys a car that can go 150mph does not mean we have roads full of idiots that drive 150mph.

That or you've overestimated the morals of the general population. It's OK, you've got a biz and you've gotta cover your @$$, we understand.

This post has been edited by Norco: Sep 4 2009, 03:06 AM

[Reaper527]

guys, just be careful what you say here. the mods are watching (IMG:style_emoticons/default/wink.gif)

on topic, it is interesting that microsoft is claiming the ability to detect illegitimate copies. one would have to wonder if there will be a lot of pissed off members in the near future, or if he is simply referring to the fact that game data is missing, (this is a fact, i have seen an abgx screenshot that shows it as an undersized iso), and this can be detected since it is different from the retail disc. (much like the reviewer copies of certain games that resulted in a ban wave previously)

just a 2nd reminder to everyone:
we don't care what you do outside of here, but here, you will NOT be asking for pirated games here, telling people where to get them, or naming releases, or you will find yourself on a temporary or permanent vacation.

This post has been edited by Reaper527: Sep 4 2009, 03:40 AM

[rastaman108037]

QUOTE(kingatrock @ Sep 3 2009, 09:41 PM)

They say they can detect copies of that game specifically being played early (even if its a legit disc). I take it as they're doing what they did with the crackdown/halo3 beta, just putting some bait out and waiting for the fish to bite. They can't detect anything more than that.

They don't ban solely because of playing a game before release. While they can tell it has been played ahead of time, they have no way of knowing who *legitimately* has the game before release. Vendors, devs, etc all get the games ahead of time. *Someone* leaks them to the interwebs.

In this case it's a bad stealth. Plain and simple.

From reliable sources I'm told ODST has very few differences from the original Halo 3. I'm told it blows.

@reaper - Is what I'm saying a violation? I'm not naming releases, just explaining why the bans are rolled out.

This post has been edited by rastaman108037: Sep 4 2009, 03:45 AM

[Reaper527]

QUOTE(rastaman108037 @ Sep 3 2009, 10:44 PM)

@reaper - Is what I'm saying a violation? I'm not naming releases, just explaining why the bans are rolled out.

i just cleaned up a few minor details. nothing major. you were pretty good about keeping it within what is allowed

[majinsoftware]

I heard each Halo ODST disks have a unique id on it. So if the same id is online on more then 1 console at a time every one who ever uses that id gets banned. No problem here tho for me, all my games are legit and only have a single backup that only I use myself.

[virux]

actually... If your listen to the Major Nelson Podcast one of the co-host accidentally spilled the beans how they could find out. basically it depends in what region you are in and if your playing that game and they know they sent a shipment around that area then they know you bought a legitimate copy. if your like in USA and they shipped the game in France then they know something is not right. anyways that's more or less what she said.

[Poopmonkey]

QUOTE(virux @ Sep 3 2009, 10:59 PM)

actually... If your listen to the Major Nelson Podcast one of the co-host accidentally spilled the beans how they could find out. basically it depends in what region you are in and if your playing that game and they know they sent a shipment around that area then they know you bought a legitimate copy. if your like in USA and they shipped the game in France then they know something is not right. anyways that's more or less what she said.

It's not like a game from France will even work on a US 360 console due to region codes. Anyways, I think thats bull because I can go ahead a buy a US retail game on ebay that was bought on the other coast than me and I get banned because I didn't buy it in my region? Since when do we have to buy games from our state or our city?!?! I think you got your facts crossed.

[knodi]

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 4 2009, 03:55 AM)

I heard each Halo ODST disks have a unique id on it. So if the same id is online on more then 1 console at a time every one who ever uses that id gets banned. No problem here tho for me, all my games are legit and only have a single backup that only I use myself.

This is not the case manufacturing processes do not allow for this.

[majinsoftware]

Also whats to say you dont just change the your location on xbox live. And use a french proxy.
Or you brought the game and got it posted over to you.
Or if you just moved from French land. And brought the game on the same day you moved.
Or if your in France and have a imported console.

Using the region to detect people wont work theres just to many variables.
Hell you could just change your keyvault to a fake ones to play the game.

QUOTE(knodi @ Sep 4 2009, 05:24 AM)

This is not the case manufacturing processes do not allow for this.

Not on the final retails. Because it would cost heaps making millions of different stamps.
But on the pre-release each ones meant to be unique.

[Reaper527]

QUOTE(majinsoftware @ Sep 3 2009, 11:26 PM)

Not on the final retails. Because it would cost heaps making millions of different stamps.
But on the pre-release each ones meant to be unique.

isn't this article about a final disc that was going to stores to sit on a shelf in a back room until launch date?

on the topic of figuring out who is legit based on region, that isn't possible. as others have said, its a disc. its a physical item. if someone has a retail disc that bought at a store, it can be shipped internationally and end up anywhere in the world.

[tomgreen99200]

why cant people just wait two more weeks? i have already been banned before and dont plan on it again. Hopefully they are just full of hot air.

[plutostar]

what if you used another hard drive to play odst. i have a HD from a broken system that i dont plan on using. i think im not gona get banned because the data of that game being played is stored on that HD so there is no record of me ever playing on this hd... i think (hope) im safe

[mist4fun]

That information is not saved on the hard drive. Sorry.