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[ILLusions0fGrander]

QUOTE(sabbath_dude @ Dec 14 2008, 01:39 PM)

 However, the original version of the demo I burned to CD and it still boots fine on both my modded and unmodded consoles just as long as the network cable is unplugged.

good to know - wondered why it wouldn't work when I tried to launch it from disc

[megahurtz]

I added the demo to my harddrive using Xplorer360, then put the hdd back on the 360 and booted it up.  Tried to launch the demo and got the message that it couldn't be started.  The game then vanished from my games library and I was perplexed as to where it went.  Finally looked under the memory section of console settings to try to find it and it was listed as corrupted data.  I deleted it from the memory menu, but when I hooked my 360 hdd back up to my computer, the demo folders were still on my partition 3.

Gave up, burned it to a dvd and just play it off that now.  Wish you could run it from usb drives though...

[ThaCrip]

QUOTE(andyd @ Dec 14 2008, 06:12 PM)

I wonder how some of you are playing it off a disc still because I keep getting "can't play disc"

i got my copy from newsgroups... after u get it and extract it... you just burn the contents of the folder to disc... i used ImgBurn in Build mode and it worked fine for me from dvd+rw or cd-r.

[tomgreen99200]

i already played it from the disk i made. so hahaha M$, you act like a bunch of little babies!

[ThaCrip]

QUOTE(tomgreen99200 @ Dec 14 2008, 06:34 PM)

i already played it from the disk i made. so hahaha M$, you act like a bunch of little babies!

i agree, it's ridiculous that MS would actually TRY to stop someone from playing a fricking "DEMO" lol

[1ic1]

found it burned it to a disc but it was a b**** to burn i used 6 discs but  burned 2 copies but finnally got it down in 1 try =D

great demo but takes forever to load

if you need cd troubleshooting tips send me a pm  

NOTE: i will not give you the files (not my responsibility   )

**You certainly will not. When your Pms are checked, if it turns out you have, then this strike will be your last here**

[davinator456]

Whats the big deal?  Its a Japanese Demo not intended for U.S. use.  If they want to make it not work on a U.S. system then I think they have every right to.

[-PK-]

The publisher probably paid for the demo to be released in Japan exclusivly or MS decided to closely follow the contract agreement to avoid getting sued for the accidental oversight.  The publisher has every right to exclude a region in order to fit their marketing budget or to avoid releasing an unpollished demo that could ruin the hype.  It could also be seen as a flaw in the content system and drive away smaller developers.  There are many reasons for MS to pull the plug on it before it escalates.

[sabbath_dude]

QUOTE(davinator456 @ Dec 15 2008, 01:14 AM)

Whats the big deal?  Its a Japanese Demo not intended for U.S. use.  If they want to make it not work on a U.S. system then I think they have every right to.

The big deal is Microsoft have actually gone and corrupted files on peoples hard drives. It just seems like a pretty shady tactic to stop people from playing a free demo (albeit exclusive to a certain region). Throwing up an error message when someone tries to play a game they aren't supposed to is one thing but tampering with files on someones hard drive is another.

@swg1251, I don't think there's any chance Microsoft would ban anyone for playing a demo from another region. I don't see how it would be in their interests. The same goes for making an account for a region you don't live in. I've even checked that one out in the TOS myself and can't find anything relating to it. I have a Live account for nearly all the main Live regions and have no problem browsing the different Marketplaces and downloading the freebies. There are legitimate reasons why one person could have several Live accounts for different countries being used on one Xbox so again I don't see it being in Microsoft's interests to ban anyone for this.

[disrockerdude]

QUOTE(davinator456 @ Dec 14 2008, 05:14 PM)

Whats the big deal?  Its a Japanese Demo not intended for U.S. use.  If they want to make it not work on a U.S. system then I think they have every right to.

your forgetting they also corrupted the demo on some japanese units. im one of the people with the corrupt demo on my japanese unit.

[swaneejuggalo]

Just DL burn to disc and call it a day..

[grap3]

I downloaded the demo off of the JPN marketplace and really enjoyed it and was planning on buying the full game after all my worries were squashed by said demo. Now... I don't see why I should support the developer or Microsoft when they pull shit like this.

They did something similar with the Ninja Gaiden 2 demo when it hit the JPN marketplace first; however they never corrupted the data at any point and just stuck to an IP check as I recall.

[Devedander]

As with anything region locked, why they prevent use in other regions can be for many reasons...

While it's a free demo, it doesn't mean money isn't involved.  Licensing fees have been paid to the appropriate parties to release in those regions, in some regions these may not have been finalized or the agreement may stipulate a certain date.  In these cases MS would need to prevent use in unlicensed areas.  MS may have been paid also to release in certain regions first.  If they have been paid to do something by region they will need to do what they can to ensure that they make the people who paid them happy.

Also MS may just WANT to release it in those areas.  MS has been courting the japanese game market and may be trying to give them a little something extra to show them the MS cares by giving them an exclusive first peek.  It may not be direct revenue (as in selling the demo) but if Japanese gamers feel MS has given them something special they may take more warmly to MS's system.   Let's face it, first dibs, especially in the game world = warm fuzzies.

And to all those who are complaining they have actual japanese boxes with japanese gamertags, it doesn't matter, you are still IN the US.  I may have a legit Japanses car that is licensed and fully owned by me in Japan and that does not make it street legal in the US.  The DMV isn't going to come disable your engine (although they may impound your car) but the point is still that licensing is often handled literally on a by location basis... as in where you are using the product, not where you bought it.

Someone mentioned throwing up an error screen vs corrupting data... I haven't seen what exactly happens but I would assume that the demo now basically states it's unplayabe.  When we hear corrupted data we think messing with stuff in a dangerous way, something as small as deleting a license file could be enough to in a corrupted demo.  Need not be more nefarious.

I gotta say I can't hold this one against them too much...

[sirreco]

QUOTE(shloader @ Dec 15 2008, 08:21 AM)

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If they do this again they leave the option open for Sony, Nintendo, and even Apple (keep an eye on them) to say "We never have and never will modify a users stored data without full consent and foreknowledge". .......

Funny you mentioned Sony there, after all that rootkit scandal.

They sure can not claim that.

[Chancer]

^^ Do you honestly think MS do something without checking and/or knowing the legalities. thanks for the court room verdict but MS will be well within it's rights.
Same old thing again. People thinking they are entitled to something just because someone else has it. It's a symptom of modern society.
Wait for the game. We have to wait till last for everything in Europe.