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[MrFish]

QUOTE(g8crapachino @ Dec 13 2008, 12:33 AM)

A "hardcore" gamer plays and enjoys alot of different video games and not on just one brand console.  He certainly doesn't sit around trying to argue how the use of an avatar makes him less "hardcore" about gaming

Indeed. He goes off and plays his DS, and lets the 360 die the death of a rag doll. There are many other consoles. And still no sign of Forza 3.