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gamer082009

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« Reply #165 on: November 20, 2008, 09:29:00 AM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ Nov 19 2008, 09:23 AM) View Post

How you dare call the other guy a simpleton is laughable after that comment.
QUOTE(Chancer @ Nov 19 2008, 09:23 AM) View Post
Prove it.
Well, it's not about proving anything, it's really common sense! If YOU "Chancer" of all people honestly believe Microsoft doesn't know about every modder then I laugh at you too. Whenever something is connected to the Internet your privacy and hiding is pretty much gone. You can't hide behind a "iXtreme" firmware, and REALISTICALLY think Microsoft has no clue about what's going on and doesn't know who's running it on their consoles. I'll say this again....Microsoft designed and created the Xbox 360, they know their hardware and the tricks & trades of it better than anybody else, PERIOD! I really think Microsoft knows about every last modders console out-there running a changed firmware or chipped unit when turned on to Xbox LIVE. And when I say modded and hacked I obviously mean chipd/firmware altering. Heck they have the ability to blow eFuses for christ sakes without you knowing a damn thing!
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ka-b00m

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« Reply #166 on: November 20, 2008, 11:21:00 AM »

QUOTE(gamer082009 @ Nov 20 2008, 05:05 PM) View Post

Well, it's not about proving anything, it's really common sense! If YOU "Chancer" of all people honestly believe Microsoft doesn't know about every modder then I laugh at you too. Whenever something is connected to the Internet your privacy and hiding is pretty much gone. You can't hide behind a "iXtreme" firmware, and REALISTICALLY think Microsoft has no clue about what's going on and doesn't know who's running it on their consoles. I'll say this again....Microsoft designed and created the Xbox 360, they know their hardware and the tricks & trades of it better than anybody else, PERIOD! I really think Microsoft knows about every last modders console out-there running a changed firmware or chipped unit when turned on to Xbox LIVE. And when I say modded and hacked I obviously mean chipd/firmware altering. Heck they have the ability to blow eFuses for christ sakes without you knowing a damn thing!


Nonsence... if they knew what the hell was going on i would be already banned... Some ppl are just dumb and play games before relase date, on a LIVE profile... Everytime they log to LIVE shit gets updated to M$ servers... GamerScore, Recent games played (Last played on LIVE), etc.. etc...

But if i eventually get banned i don't care... I don't use the XBOX LIVE service...
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« Reply #167 on: November 20, 2008, 01:10:00 PM »

QUOTE(gamer082009 @ Nov 20 2008, 05:05 PM) View Post

Well, it's not about proving anything, it's really common sense! If YOU "Chancer" of all people honestly believe Microsoft doesn't know about every modder then I laugh at you too. Whenever something is connected to the Internet your privacy and hiding is pretty much gone. You can't hide behind a "iXtreme" firmware, and REALISTICALLY think Microsoft has no clue about what's going on and doesn't know who's running it on their consoles. I'll say this again....Microsoft designed and created the Xbox 360, they know their hardware and the tricks & trades of it better than anybody else, PERIOD! I really think Microsoft knows about every last modders console out-there running a changed firmware or chipped unit when turned on to Xbox LIVE. And when I say modded and hacked I obviously mean chipd/firmware altering. Heck they have the ability to blow eFuses for christ sakes without you knowing a damn thing!

They don't know about every modder and if you believe it then you are mistaken.
If they already know then why are you not displaying your gamertag and XBL details.
Prove it and I may release a source to you that will kick your theory in the bollocks

NOTE
Stop naming releases you have downloaded. The people that have have been suspended.
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ka-b00m

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« Reply #168 on: November 20, 2008, 01:21:00 PM »

QUOTE(Chancer @ Nov 20 2008, 08:46 PM) View Post

They don't know about every modder and if you believe it then you are mistaken.
If they already know then why are you not displaying your gamertag and XBL details.
Prove it and I may release a source to you that will kick your theory in the bollocks

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Stop naming releases you have downloaded. The people that have have been suspended.


lol... what the hell are you hidding from us...
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smokafatty

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« Reply #169 on: November 20, 2008, 11:21:00 PM »

Does anyone know if your console gets banned is the warranty automatically voided? I would assume so.....
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« Reply #170 on: November 20, 2008, 11:27:00 PM »

Yes, it does.
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RiceCake

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« Reply #171 on: November 21, 2008, 09:45:00 PM »

Microsoft may have built the system but the firmware hack in itself is a testament to how little control Microsoft has, both from an engineering standpoint and from a security standpoint, of the entire system. What Microsoft engineers saw as a marvelous chain of security was broken by rewriting a single tiny flash ROM.

For Microsoft, they could detect the firmware, software is really the only connection they have to the drive in this situation. However, reading the chip relies on the software written to it complying, so it can be easily spoofed.

In other words, you give way too much credit for detecting modifications. There are plenty of hacks out there that have never been detected and never will, mostly because they remain a secret. Contrary to popular belief a lot of hackers I know out there would rather not see a huge fiasco caused by their software getting leaked out to the masses. Noobs typically jump on it, fuck up the service, then bitch and whine when they get banned or scammed trying to get back on.

But what does make detecting the hack really easy? Well, every single pressed 360 game should be identical, and we're burning backups to a disk that in all respect, is enormously different. The firmware's good, but its no genius. It relies heavily on a good burn, and applies the minor patches that can't be burnt to make the disk "identical" to the system.

That, well, and playing games that are impossible to get, such as retail test disks that would never be given to anyone but strictly known, authorized users. Its still looking like people are getting banned for exactly what they were told not to do; playing outside the norm by playing backups they can't possibly know are good in the first place.

Well, or making an honest error that the Microsoft "Kill-U-Some-Day Ban Flagger 3000" picks up on and sets a death clock on your LiveID.
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« Reply #172 on: November 21, 2008, 11:41:00 PM »

This is entirely my speculation. Hopefully someone either compiles a solid sample from the community or can identify precisely what is being targeted to shed some light on the new bans. With NXE just out, the mod scene has a few new problems to slowly muddle over.

I would assume Microsoft will flag offline users for modifications but that's something I can't confirm.
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« Reply #173 on: November 22, 2008, 05:59:00 PM »

QUOTE(S_T_S_OM @ Nov 22 2008, 05:10 PM) View Post

let me get it straight, if i log in to the XBOXLIVE with a modified console, i will get banned right?
when did the ban-wave start?

and 1 last thing, does any1 know when is it gonna end?


Ban waves don't start and end.. MS flags the console for banning continuously of time...  As long as you never have the network cable plugged in while a backup is in the system you should be OK.
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« Reply #174 on: November 23, 2008, 05:42:00 PM »

That's my question also.  Microsoft has no way of detecting if the firmware on the drive is the original or not?
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« Reply #175 on: November 23, 2008, 08:19:00 PM »

Here is something I've also wondered.  If you recently sent your xbox in for repair (3RROD) you now have a new Lite-on Dvd drive installed.  Based on the serial number of the Xbox they sent you back you would think they would have on record all of the work done to that concolse including the new Lite-on drive.  Now suppose you purchase a Samsung MS28 drive from Ebay to replace your Lite-on and now are back to  playing back-ups.  I don't know how Live works but you would think that once you connect to Live Microsoft could somehow "talk" or ask for some ID value from the Dvd drive and in my example would say "Hello, I'm a Samsung."  A quick check of your serial number would reveal that your supposed to own a Lite-on, oops now you banned.

Think of it like looking at device manager, hardware tab in Windows XP.  You expand the plus sign next to video card and it will show you what model you have.

This is just my two cents.

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« Reply #176 on: November 23, 2008, 08:39:00 PM »

you have to spoof the samsung as a liteon anway or it wont work.
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« Reply #177 on: November 23, 2008, 09:20:00 PM »

QUOTE(Guidor @ Nov 12 2008, 11:52 AM) View Post

It was a perfectly intelligent post.  So because you don't agree with game prices that makes it Ok for you to steal?  A games console is a luxary item and not a right in life so if you cant afford it don't get one.  Maybe try getting a better paid job.  Don't make an excuse for you to steal somebodies hard work.



pft modding consoles is for the weak...

i just want into my local ebgames with a shotgun and an AR and tell em to load up my bag with all the latest games once every week. Don't gota worry about getting banned

( for anyone who thinks im serious.. thats is all )
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« Reply #178 on: November 23, 2008, 11:15:00 PM »

A Cow, you will still be banned mate. They don't provide you with a Xbox 360 in jail!
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« Reply #179 on: November 25, 2008, 02:27:00 AM »

MS banned my dad. Last friday. He ist 68 years old and did never anything with his XBOX 360. No Flash, nothing. Cant beleave they dont care about it. Done everything i can.
A man who is born in 1940, and they say he modded his box!

His box was in april in service. And his box was fixed after an ROD. He played 4 Games und Too Human with me in coop. So for what he should flash his drive???

But no chance. MS dont care.

Only want you to know. Not only modders got banned.
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