ok clearly the english is not good enough for someone of your retarded educational level
And once again, with the immaturity and pointless name calling...
so let me make it clear. I dont care if you are gay or not, no one does and I feel that the term FAG is reserved for the over the top stereotypical gay men in the world.
My point is you're using stupid terms (that most people would deem offensive) to negatively describe people. YOU feel that blah blah blah....do you think everone feels the same way? I didn't even know that fag referred to a specific type of homosexual (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/rolleyes.gif) But I guess since you set a definition for it, what you say goes right? Furthermore, what do you know about the person in question? How do you know he's an "over the top stereotypical gay guy"? Yea he made an attention drawing Gamertag, does that 1 thing mean he's gone over the top now? You know nothing about the guy, but are judging him based on the 1 thing you know about him. Didn't you just say something about not seeing what you want to see? Apparently you only want to see an over the top sterotypical gay guy in this situation.
I don't care if someone is gay or not either, but I wouldn't disrespect somebody just because they're in a certain group. I don't know where you're from, but if someone used negative terms to describe you and your race/ethnicity, wouldn't you be offended? (Please don't try and say you wouldn't, no matter how small it is, you'd be mad at some point).
If a "normal" gay guy is walking down the street behind you and he sees you pointing at the "Over the top stereotypical gay guy" calling him a fag, do you think he's going to think "Oh, it's alright because he's using the word fag in context. Yup, makes perfect sense". No, he's going to think that you're a homophobic person with no respect for gay people.
hey guess what Mr. PC( that means politicaly correct I know you think im talking about computers but im not) most gay men will agree with me, most gay men cant stand the FAGS either.
Mr. PC? Nah, I just don't disrespect people unecessarily that's all. The computer joke (was it a joke?) wasn't that great.
How do you know most gay men would agree with you? Did you take a survey of all gay men all over the world? You're presenting your opinion as fact with no real evidence to back it up. I could just as easily have said most gay men would disagree with you.
So once again there is nothing wrong with being gay if thats what you are but drawing attention to yourself to make out your special is really annoying( and not reserved for just the gay people).
This is really all you had to say in the beginning. Same message, same impact, except it doesn't make you look like a ignorant homophobe.
Your problem with what I sadi is your own ignorance to the point of view of others. instead you follow the view of what is deemed to be correct in the eyes of your peers ie the media.
And how is what you said any less ignorant to the point of view of others? (Especially your idea that most gay men would be ok with you calling other gay men fags if they met your special criteria.)
Im not angry
If all what you said earlier is how you are when you're not angry, then you have a problem or something, and should probably seek therapy.
Im saddened by the fact that the latest generation seems to be made up of attention seeking no talent self involed scum who treat homosexuals like the latest fashion accessory, only to be cast aside later on when its not so cool.
Well I hope you're not talking about me because I don't see how you arrived at that conclusion based on what I said unless you're not thinking straight. All I said was that you shouldn't call people names. I never said anything about homosexuals being the latest and greatest fashion accessory or about glorifying homosexuals. I don't like male homosexuality either, but I wouldn't disrespect someone for being a homosexual. Just like I wouldn't disrespect someone for being a certain race/ethnicity.
I dont mean to say the latest generation because that is simply not true every generation has its good and bad, but never before has there been such an level of disregard for the truth over whats PC.
Once again, all I said was not to call people names. If what I'm saying is the PC, then what is the truth? How do you define what the truth is in this situation?
Its a disgrace to the freedoms that our forefather fought and died for.
I thought you weren't American. Which forefathers are you speaking of? Anyways, what you're trying to say is that the American forefathers died so it would be ok for you to call homosexual men fags? Is that what you're trying to say? Or are you generalizing other non-related PC issues with this one?
I've heard women standing up for the rights of men in places where its perfectly legal to stone a woman to death simply because she was raped, and the reason is because people are so busy trying to be the best little person in the world and not be oppresive that they miss the fact that they themselves are being oppressed, I know any white man in America knows what I'm talking about.
Lol huh? Wanna elaborate?
So to sum up, I dont like you because your a sheep and you follow the masses and cant think for yourself
I really don't care if you like me or not (and I don't think I'd care to be associated with you based on your comments in this thread), but why is it that I'm a sheep and I can't think for myself? Because I don't agree with the use of derogatory names to describe groups of people? Because I feel it's disrespectful for you to call gay men fags? What if I decide that I should call you and your race/ethnic group a certain name. Is that what you consider thinking for yourself?
I discourage the use of derogatory terms to describe people based on my (and my friends') experiences with racism in America, not because someone on TV said not to. All I've done is apply my principle to the treatment of homosexuals. Does that make me a sheep?
your come backs are pathetic to the point that they seem to be rehashed from other posts you have read. the points you have made at the things I have said leave you looking like a fool because you refuse to see anything other than your own misguided ideas of right and wrong.
Come backs? So this is about who can make the best Yo Mama joke? Other posts I've read? What exactly is your point? Once again, not making any sense....
The best way for you to understand and win an argument is to know what the other person thinks and feels about the topic, only once you understand the other side will you ever understand your own point of view.
This is true. However, it's difficult to understand your argument because you have not yet come up with a logical reason (except that it's what "you feel") to use the word fag to describe homosexual men. Basically, your argument doesn't make sense.
oh and to the other thing you said about him maybe being a proud gay man.
should I say that im proud that i can put my penis in a girls vagina im great because of that you know i can feel her boobs too and i put my penis in her mouth she likes that.
I never said I agreed with his gamertag. I think it was a stupid idea also. The difference here is that you think it's stupid because you hate homosexuals. You took this situation as an opportunity to bash homosexuals.
I think it's stupid because I know a gamertag like that would only draw negative attention in an environment like XBL (where it's cool for someone to call you a nigger because you blew their head off in Gears).
hmmm makes me sound like a bit of a dick doesnt it, and yet if a gay guy does it hes just being proud that hes gay.
Well if you could make a gamertag that would allow someone to infer all that from a name, then yes, you would be a dick lol. If someone made a gamertag that said theHETEROgamer or GuyThatDoesGirlsOnly, I wouldn't start thinking about some guy putting a penis in a vagina and grabbing boobs (IMG:
style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) If you would start thinking that, then maybe you need therapy....
Under your view we should make gay people special, instead of treating them the same as everyone else which if im not mistaken is all they ever asked for.
I never said all that. All I said is that people shouldn't use derogatory terms to describe people.
Im done with you now anythign else you say is just guff I wont be back to responed your clearly just an ignorant little boy with nothing better to do than argue instead of having a conversation.
Are you sure you aren't angry? You really sound like it. What's wrong with arguing/debating? Isn't that part of the purpose of a forum? And you were arguing with me so perhaps you too had nothing better to do....
Homosexuals that jump about wanting everyone to look at them are what I call a fag.
Homosexuals that can take a joke and dont want anything other than the rights that everyone else gets are not fags they are just people like you and me trying to get on in the world but you wont let them cos you want to make them special and "different" Im sure they love that.
I don't see what's so joke-like about the word fag, but once again, what you say goes right? Like I said earlier, that's YOUR view. Because others don't share the same view about the word fag we're wrong?
Remember, all I said was that we shouldn't use derogatory terms to describe groups of people. If this had been about Hispanics and you using the word Spics, my argument would hold up, yours would not.
Hmm...my bbcode isn't working....well I hope it's still readable if anyone even cares...
This post has been edited by Trevante: Today, 05:18 AM