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[foreverporkchop]

sorry double post....

This post has been edited by foreverporkchop: Feb 2 2006, 07:24 AM

[Martinchris23]

Without going too OT, comparing CoD2's and FIFA 06's 1000 available points is chalk and cheese. FIFA was far too easy and if you're looking for a quick 1000 boost in your gamerscore, this is it.

CoD2 was as tough as nails and IMHO the total score of the game should reflect this. Either more points for CoD2 or less for FIFA 06 would make a more proportional scoring system. There definitely was a real sense of achievement when I completed CoD2 on Veteran

Back to this 'glitch', don't sweat it. It's an online scoring system meaning it can be (and will be) fixed at the server end of Xbox Live.

Martin

[quall]

Wasn't BestBuy going to give 10 marketplace points for every 1000 gamerscore points earned in the near future ??

[Megamil]

QUOTE(Martinchris23 @ Feb 2 2006, 07:11 AM)

 There definitely was a real sense of achievement when I completed CoD2 on Veteran

Martin

Exactly.  This is why I told the other guy that people that look at that score and value it aren't assholes.  The people that brag are assholes but there are people out there that KNOW which games you have to EARN your achievement points for and I salute you because I had to go on leave, damn Veteran was driving me up the wall  

[ra3r0]

i guess that goes to show all the people that were worried about "cheating in xbox live" with the new dvd firmware hack.... lets be serious cheating has always happen and will continue to be part of gaming for ever.

[Nathan219]

firmware hack?

last time I knew, there was no such thing

[s00pcan]

I beat cod2 on veteran and it glitched.. not in the good way. I had credit for beating all the levels on veteran, but not for beating the game. I then had to play through the game again on hardened (basically, easy mode) to get credit for beating it. I am so glad they added the option to play on hardened for that achievement.

[Altima NEO]

QUOTE(Megamil @ Feb 1 2006, 09:39 PM)

I have been wanting to test drive that game since it was the worse selling 360 game so far.......I have only seen the trailer on live.....I love Ridge Racer on my PSP........

Youll love it then. Its basically same gameplay as the PSP version, only higher rez, and online.
(heck, you can even download songs from the psp version on the market place, woo, Disco Ball!)

[iLLNESS]

ill jump the gamertag is pointless bandwagon

why? cause it is

i whoop people all day long with gamerscores much bigger then me
all the gamerscore does is show how much free time someone has to complete the achievments. nothing more

[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(s00pcan @ Feb 2 2006, 04:32 PM)

I beat cod2 on veteran and it glitched.. not in the good way. I had credit for beating all the levels on veteran, but not for beating the game. I then had to play through the game again on hardened (basically, easy mode) to get credit for beating it. I am so glad they added the option to play on hardened for that achievement.

Completing the game on Hard is a totally different achievement. It's sounds daft as if you can beat the game on Veteran then it stands to reason that you can do it on Hard too.

Martin

[yugluc]

I like the gamerscore cause I feel instead of playing countless hours, I get a feel for accomplishments made throughout when you have that elusive 'Achievement unlocked' appear on the screen.

I don't really care if I have the highest gamerscore compared to Joe Smith or Jane Doe.
I do care about beating my friends. To me that's the only gamerscores I really care about.

I only have a whopping 250pts but I've only had my system for 2.5 weeks.
(I go out and buy PGR3 and COD2 and I spend hours playing hexic and Geo wars evolved
Damn you M$ and your addictive arcade)

[Megamil]

QUOTE(yugluc @ Feb 2 2006, 02:17 PM)

I like the gamerscore cause I feel instead of playing countless hours, I get a feel for accomplishments made throughout when you have that elusive 'Achievement unlocked' appear on the screen.

I don't really care if I have the highest gamerscore compared to Joe Smith or Jane Doe.
I do care about beating my friends. To me that's the only gamerscores I really care about.

I only have a whopping 250pts but I've only had my system for 2.5 weeks.
(I go out and buy PGR3 and COD2 and I spend hours playing hexic and Geo wars evolved
Damn you M$ and your addictive arcade)

Exactly.......It adds to the replay value of the game because not only will you play the game to beat it.  After beating it you will most likely play the game to get the achievements.  Most of the friends on my list keep track of our achievements so when you get one that is really hard to get, we give that person congrats on it.  I just think the people that think the gamescore doesn't mean anything are just mad because they don't get anything from it off live.  It's more of a psychological prize even though you will have some a$$holes out there that will try to use it to say they are better than someone else just because their score it higher.

[Reaper527]

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his kameo is just as screwed up too, 2 points 0 achievements, but if you go inside there are 600 points and all non-optional achievements are unlocked.

QUOTE(Megamil @ Feb 2 2006, 06:43 PM)

Exactly.......It adds to the replay value of the game because not only will you play the game to beat it.  After beating it you will most likely play the game to get the achievements.  Most of the friends on my list keep track of our achievements so when you get one that is really hard to get, we give that person congrats on it.  I just think the people that think the gamescore doesn't mean anything are just mad because they don't get anything from it off live.  It's more of a psychological prize even though you will have some a$$holes out there that will try to use it to say they are better than someone else just because their score it higher.

i don't think the gamerscore number means anything as some games give points away like candy, and others make you work for it. i do however think the individual achievements are a great idea and worth looking at. its just the point values that i think is flawed and unregulated. (look at madden, then look at smashTV, you can beat smashTV usuing no continues, or you can win your first game of madden and get roughly the same amount of points)

This post has been edited by Reaper527: Feb 3 2006, 01:04 AM

[adfinder23]

Since all of you guys like the gamerscore so much for your sake I'd rather live in a unvierse where the gamerscore exists. That's only for you guys though, it doesn't do anything for me. You may like it to compare achievements, or to congrat people on a job well done. That's cool. And I'd agree that it probably does give people some more replay value. You go through Condemned, beat it, now what? Go back and find all the birds and metal pieces, etc. That's why I'd rather have it than not, so you guys have replay value.

For me however, it's not because I don't get anything from it off of Live, it's what I might get on Live. I don't play online much and when I do I have not encountered an asshole yet, but I imagine in a year when gamerscores get really big and mine sits at a lowly 2-3g's I'm going to find some. But who cares, they're assholes.

The other reason I don't like it is because I do kind of like unlocking achievements, but I don't like many aspects you need to do to unlock the achievements. I just want to play. If finding the birds in Condemned isn't necessary, then I don't want to do it. It makes the game to slow having to walk around a big empty area just in case there are birds or metal pieces. I have the weapon I want, I've got health, but now I have to go looking for birds. So now that I have gamerscores, I have a reason to go do all that extra shit I don't like in games, but rather not have to.

But that's my problem, and that's why I've made the decision to forget the gamerscore and just play the games the way I want to. I'm not going to unlock achievements purposefully. If I stumble across an achievement, cool beans. Otherwise, it's just going to force me to play in a way I don't like and get frustrated in repeating tasks to get the achievement.

You guys like it though, and gives you positive feedback, and gives you something to do, and improves your play experience. So I'm glad it's there for you, because I can ignore the negative aspects it has for me.

[Mega_mil]

QUOTE(Reaper527 @ Feb 3 2006, 12:58 AM)

his kameo is just as screwed up too, 2 points 0 achievements, but if you go inside there are 600 points and all non-optional achievements are unlocked.
i don't think the gamerscore number means anything as some games give points away like candy, and others make you work for it. i do however think the individual achievements are a great idea and worth looking at. its just the point values that i think is flawed and unregulated. (look at madden, then look at smashTV, you can beat smashTV usuing no continues, or you can win your first game of madden and get roughly the same amount of points)

I already stated in this thread that people that value the gamerscore KNOW which games give out easy points.  I even gave examples like NBA2k6, King Kong as such.  Those games are really looked at as challenging so people that value the gamerscore don't really look at them as having skill.  Getting the full 1000 in COD2 requires skill.

QUOTE(adfinder23 @ Feb 3 2006, 01:05 AM)

Since all of you guys like the gamerscore so much for your sake I'd rather live in a unvierse where the gamerscore exists. That's only for you guys though, it doesn't do anything for me. You may like it to compare achievements, or to congrat people on a job well done. That's cool. And I'd agree that it probably does give people some more replay value. You go through Condemned, beat it, now what? Go back and find all the birds and metal pieces, etc. That's why I'd rather have it than not, so you guys have replay value.

For me however, it's not because I don't get anything from it off of Live, it's what I might get on Live. I don't play online much and when I do I have not encountered an asshole yet, but I imagine in a year when gamerscores get really big and mine sits at a lowly 2-3g's I'm going to find some. But who cares, they're assholes.

The other reason I don't like it is because I do kind of like unlocking achievements, but I don't like many aspects you need to do to unlock the achievements. I just want to play. If finding the birds in Condemned isn't necessary, then I don't want to do it. It makes the game to slow having to walk around a big empty area just in case there are birds or metal pieces. I have the weapon I want, I've got health, but now I have to go looking for birds. So now that I have gamerscores, I have a reason to go do all that extra shit I don't like in games, but rather not have to.

But that's my problem, and that's why I've made the decision to forget the gamerscore and just play the games the way I want to. I'm not going to unlock achievements purposefully. If I stumble across an achievement, cool beans. Otherwise, it's just going to force me to play in a way I don't like and get frustrated in repeating tasks to get the achievement.

You guys like it though, and gives you positive feedback, and gives you something to do, and improves your play experience. So I'm glad it's there for you, because I can ignore the negative aspects it has for me.

I honestly respect your opinion because you stated what you like and what you don't like.    For me I like to find EVERYTHING in a game before I shelf it.