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[7urrican]

If you want to fix it, you’re right; the xclamp fix on its own doesn’t have a very high success rate long-term. I just heatgun fixed 3 boards with the GPU problem, and that went really well. I won’t know if it has permanently fixed it until I have tested them all thoroughly for AGES! Once you have a working box, you then MUST do the xclamp fix and look at cooling mods like the fan shroud mod, speeding up the fans, extra fans etc. If you leave everything as stock it’ll almost certainly die again.

If you don’t fancy the fix, you could sell it for parts on ebay. If it is running the old dashboard (i.e. hasn’t been on XBL for a bit) it suddenly becomes more valuable, as someone might want to fix and jtag it. Likewise if it isn’t banned from xbl it is a little more desirable.

I’d probably stick it in the loft as spare parts in case your box ever goes wrong. That’s what I did with these 3 rrod xenon boards, and they’re now fixed, jtagged and awaiting some decent cooling which I’m working on. Doesn’t hurt to have a small spares box.

[vb_encryption_vb]

Sell it as is or send off to MS for repair.....Don't bother with the fix as your right, it will break again.

[Accord]

Agreed. Just send it off if it's still under warranty.

[vb_encryption_vb]

Spend 100 and have it repaired then or sell it for parts....All thats of much value could be the drive if it's something other then a Hitachi.

[Goddard]

If I leave the machines top off and put it by a fan will that keep it considerably cooler or does the close space keep the air flowing better or something?  This is probably a stupid question, but let me know.

[7urrican]

Hello mate. I’d have a read around if I were you. There are plenty of solutions. The easiest would be the 12v fan mod which is noisy but will cool your system right down. The fan shroud mod is less aggressive and helps too. I would do that on any xenon board I get, unless I’m doing something more drastic.

Ive recently been replacing the GPU sink with the new version, and fitting a small fan to it running on 7v. if you can read the NAND, you can change the target temps of the processors, so when say the GPU gets over a set temp, the fans will go full speed to compensate. This is useful because the target temps of the very first xenons are quite high (GPU - 97°C!)

Pics of what I have been up to here

[Me777]

QUOTE(7urrican @ Jun 3 2010, 06:17 AM)

Hello mate. I’d have a read around if I were you. There are plenty of solutions. The easiest would be the 12v fan mod which is noisy but will cool your system right down. The fan shroud mod is less aggressive and helps too. I would do that on any xenon board I get, unless I’m doing something more drastic.

Ive recently been replacing the GPU sink with the new version, and fitting a small fan to it running on 7v. if you can read the NAND, you can change the target temps of the processors, so when say the GPU gets over a set temp, the fans will go full speed to compensate. This is useful because the target temps of the very first xenons are quite high (GPU - 97°C!)

Pics of what I have been up to here

top knotch info, I do pretty much the same thing. I'd read the nand and see if it's jtaggable first, if it is then it's worth trying to fix, otherwise just pawn it off on someone buying red rings for a bit of cash

[VieraGamer]

That would almost certainly keep it cooler...
But really, would look like a pile of junk.
As far as fixing the problem, You Should get a professional reflow, Not by heat gun or towel or oven, there's so much bad info out there. You simply can't get the solder to liquidus With DIY methods. And even if you could you would damage other components certainly manhandling the board and not using the right size nozzle to keep the air on the chip in question.
No ammount of clamping will fix cold solder joints.

I don't know if advertising is against board rules or not so If you want more info pm me an I'll give you a Fair price.

[Me777]

QUOTE(Goddard @ Jun 3 2010, 03:15 PM)

So leaving the top off the case and putting a fan on it wont be enough cooling power to keep it from failing?  I could also put the cd drive to the side.

get it reflowed or reballed if it continues to cause problems because keeping it cool is only half the problem
if you dont want to chuck out a decent amount of $ on it right now then just mod the fans to run at 12v it'll be loud but it will be cold.

credit goes to grim for this http://forums.xbox-s...howtopic=637955

[relaxxx]

Replacing the x-clamps is not so much a fix as it is a temporary neanderthalic TRICK.

Reflow or reball.

[Me777]

QUOTE(relaxxx @ Jun 6 2010, 02:00 PM)

Replacing the x-clamps is not so much a fix as it is a temporary neanderthalic TRICK.

Yeah but it's so easy a caveman could do it