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[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(scuba156 @ Jan 16 2008, 04:44 PM)

i did read the entire thread, did you? cause you must of missed this

/snip

Obviously you didn't, as his next post (http://forums.xbox-scene.com/index.php?showtopic=636817&st=15#):

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oh my god, wait i'm soo sorry about that last post. I was tired and wrote the wrong thing. ACTUALLY it says:

1. IDE Sec Master
2. IDE Sec Slave

I'm really sorry for confusing you, but ya apparantly there's no "XTREME" anywhere. My bad, but yah back to step numero uno.

Like I said, you're jumping into a conversation with both feet before reading everything and you're just going to confuse things.

As for Hex editing the MTKFlash, with the amount of hassle this guy's had with just getting an app to work, I wouldn't dream of talking him through doing this! It's better long term (well for him anyways) that he's booting to an XP partition, if it's not just for stability.

[scuba156]

obviously your the one that didnt read it very well as the post i was referring to (here) is AFTER, i repeat AFTER the one you just linked to

so before you start knocking me back after i read the WHOLE thread from start to finish before posting, appreciate the help because as it seems, you missed that post which was a big piece of information

[Martinchris23]

QUOTE(scuba156 @ Jan 16 2008, 08:07 PM)

obviously your the one that didnt read it very well as the post i was referring to (here) is AFTER, i repeat AFTER the one you just linked to

so before you start knocking me back after i read the WHOLE thread from start to finish before posting, appreciate the help because as it seems, you missed that post which was a big piece of information

I saw that information thanks - I then posted this:

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Ok, do two things for me:

1. When iPrep detects your SATA card, do a screen dump of what it sees. post the screenshot here.

2. run msinfo32 on your now XP machine and go to Components /Storage/ SCSI again and copy/paste everything in this section in here.

We can then do a comparison as you shouldn't be seeing two entries under MTKFlash.

Under no circumstances should you be seeing two entries for XTREME with only one drive connected. This is a clear indication that the device and port detected by Xtreme BootMaker / iPrep is wrong and is probably reporting his legacy equipment. This is why I've advised to install XP, as Me itself looks to be misreporting.

On the surface, I know what you're saying but read the full post again he linked to - he tried both options and neither (with the 10 second trick) kick started the process. Therefore although you're right in the fact it's appeared on screen, it hasn't been detected properly.

At no point was I contradictory with my advice and I really would ask you don't complicate things further. Having to explain each step of my advice (which I flash these drives on a daily basis) - repeating myself and explaining why I've suggested it will get very tedious for the both of us.

[Cliffdawg]

New Post: Oh and just to confirm what I was sayin about xtremebootmaker being reported to detect pci cards that iPrep can't, here's an example
http://www.360mods.n...pic/t=5679.html


and also, ya the PCI card is showing up in the BIOS no matter what PCI slot its in, just FYI.  I heard that the card is very picky about what PCI slot its in on the reviews of my card at newegg.com, but I think that this "pickiness" I've been hearing about is only for making the drive work in windows, not in Dos. Anyways, here's the link for the reviews, but don't bother with reading all of them or any its not too important hehehe thanks!

http://www.newegg.co...e...False&Page=

[Cliffdawg]

Also, I said something earlier about turning off the IDE devices would increase the chances of your pci card showing up or something.  Well here's another example of that:
http://forums.xbox-s...o...599152&st=0
(note: its sosotiit's last comment on the page )

So ya basically I can't wait until I can get a bootable floppy working in windows xp so that I can turn off the IDE devices and give that a try!  I hope floppy flashing doesn't mess up for me, as they were noted to be unreliable.
But in textbook's tutorial, one can see in his pictures that he has indeed disabled or manually unplugged the IDE devices on his pc.  AND the "XTREME Pri Master" showed up.  Note the word "Pri" lol.  I hope I get a "Pri" not a "Sec," next time, huh guys      

[Martinchris23]

Thanks for your responses Cliffdawg.

Just as a reference, when I'm reading/flashing a samsung with my VIS 6421 card, I leave all my SATA and IDE devices connected and subsequently get about 5 options to choose from. I will stress that I only ever get one option for 'XTREME Pri Master'.

Lets hold off the rest of this until you're in a position to try this under XP

[scuba156]

i leave all IDE devices connected too and i only get one XTREME option along with the others, BUT, if i leave the 360 drive disconnected, i get XTREME sec master/slave. that is why i suggested a new sata cable as the drive might not be seen by the sata card

it is a possiblity that either ME or iPrep is getting the wrong device ID, dont get me wrong, but i dont think its likely.

also, i would try turning on the xbox as different times, like before the PC boots up, during POST, after POST as soon as DOS and loaded. that sort of thing, but im sure you would of tried all that

i would suggest a new sata cable first, then if that fails, continue on with XP to set up the right device ID

[scuba156]

glad to help

after quiting my job today (boss was an ass), i have all the time in the world

[Cliffdawg]

Okay I just tried a new sata cable and same thing.  However, I just realized I didn't have to try another one   .  I unplugged the sata card and the same thing (1. XTREME Sec Master   and   2.  XTREME Sec Slave) showed up!!!  Basically, iPrep and/or ME messed something up, as it definitely detected my IDE drives as XTREME.

Question: shouldn't my 360 drive and card be detected when attached, even if it doesn't say XTREME?  Or do you think that a correctly id'ed card and patched mtkflash is necessary to make the card/drive show up at all? Thanks.

[scuba156]

if im understanding your question correctly (i just woke up) then yes, mtkflaash needs to have the correct device ID otherwise it will not know the location of the sata card.

 have you tried placing the sata card in different PCI slots? theres a post in newbie chat where a guy could only get his to work in PCI slot 1

[Cliffdawg]

Hey guys, good news   .  My buddy at work said he'll lend me his brand new dell pc if the new internal hard drive doesn't work.  It's running Vista, however, I've read numerous times that the card works great with vista although it doesn't say so.  He was just curious about something, so here it is:

Using the usb boot method w/ iPrep (or maybe xtremebootmaker) and disabling all IDE devices in the BIOS, what are the odds that iPrep may flash over the computer's local disc C?  I was unsure because in textbook's tutorial, textbook says you should "manually unplug the hard disc, because iPrep might overwrite it in the process and disabling it in the BIOS might not do the trick."  I'm sure there's basically no chance of iPrep doing this if I disable all the devices, right?  

Lol thanks for answering a stupid question, my friend just wants confirmation. and ya I'm still gonna give xp a try in my new internal hard drive, if it EVER COMES      

[Cliffdawg]

also btw, does vista even work with iPrep?  I suppose it does, as many claim to have flashed a 360 vista.

[Martinchris23]

Yes - the latest version of iprep does support Vista.

What happened to you installing XP on your main PC?

[Cliffdawg]

Lol, thanks for the responses, guys  

To MartinChris: yes sorry about the sidetracking.  Installing xp on my new internal hard drive is and has always been priority #1 and plan A.  However, the int hdd hasn't arrived yet and I've been bored    so I just decided to give another sata cable a try.  Also,  I just posted about another pc because my friend had a quesiton... I may use his Vista pc if the new drive w/ xp doesn't do the trick, but only then   because I definetely think the new int hdd will work.  (basically, i'm just listing my options for worst-case senarios, sorry for any confusion! )  But ya the drive hasn't come yet and therefore i'm still standing still, pm u when it arrives  

To Scan-C: Hey thanks for the response!  Ya don't worry about leaving the post I do it all the time (and this topic's mission is taking FOREVEEEEERRRRREEERRRR because of all my unexpected problems hehehe  ya but thanks for the info about iPrep in vista, as I may use a vista pc if the new int hdd w/ xp won't work, but that's just a last resort, and I'm just posting my options!    

And yes "operation xp on my int hdd" is still in commencement!  Thanks!

[Scan-C]

My suggestion isn't only for Vista but for every OS there is. If you have the ability to boot through USB do it! There's always the possibility of jaming your head on the keyboard and flashing a drive you don't want to

And for the process taking forever... Yes, it does but consider it a good think. You learn a lot by doing this don't you? Even the most experienced one runs into problems which are not solved easily.