Topic: Speculation, Theories, Discoveries About The Ban In This Thread Only (Read 819 times)

sosotiit · « **on:** September 02, 2007, 08:09:00 AM »

All Discussion on the bannings go in this topic:

That includes speculation, theories, and discoveries (bet lets keep it reasonable plse)

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This post has been edited by sosotiit: Sep 10 2007, 11:49 PM

Devryn · « **Reply #1 on:** September 10, 2007, 10:55:00 PM »

Has anyone considered this could be a MAC address ban and not a "serial number" ban? Is there a way to spoof a MAC address to find this out?

scuba156 · « **Reply #2 on:** September 11, 2007, 07:52:00 AM »

it is not a MAC address ban. they can be easily spoofed and your MAC address is different between a wired connection and a wireless connection. i also believe you can manually set your MAC address through your network settings. it IS a console ID ban. nothing more, nothing less

Chrushev · « **Reply #3 on:** September 11, 2007, 11:40:00 AM »

So, this number is stored somewhere right?

I cant believe in 2 years there wasnt found a way to somehow rewrite that number to a customly generated one.

Havok · « **Reply #4 on:** September 11, 2007, 11:25:00 AM »

QUOTE(Chrushev @ Sep 11 2007, 01:40 PM)

So, this number is stored somewhere right?

I cant believe in 2 years there wasnt found a way to somehow rewrite that number to a customly generated one.

Because it is stored in the encryptped CPU which we have no access to.... We don't even know what the number is or the format.... its just a unique identifier.

Eddie_the_Hated · « **Reply #5 on:** September 14, 2007, 03:13:00 PM »

Speculation 'eh?

I'm betting that Microsoft are primarily banning consoles that are doing something illegal...

...

What? That not speculative enough? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)

partonbp · « **Reply #6 on:** September 23, 2007, 05:53:00 PM »

When Does the ban actually happen

If you have a live account?
cause even if you dont have a live account it still connects to the live systems to get updates and you can message etc.

Whats it ban you from? playing on live or the whole live system?

Carson92 · « **Reply #7 on:** September 23, 2007, 05:41:00 PM »

QUOTE(partonbp @ Sep 23 2007, 07:53 PM)

When Does the ban actually happen

If you have a live account?
cause even if you dont have a live account it still connects to the live systems to get updates and you can message etc.

Whats it ban you from? playing on live or the whole live system?

It bans your whole system

Aussiegerrard · « **Reply #8 on:** October 05, 2007, 12:11:00 AM »

Im not sure if this is the right thread to ask this but if someone somehow managed to sell their banned console and got a clean one would Kreon games work on it? Do you need any modding to get the Kreon games to work?

Havok · « **Reply #9 on:** October 05, 2007, 10:26:00 AM »

QUOTE(Aussiegerrard @ Oct 5 2007, 02:11 AM)

Im not sure if this is the right thread to ask this but if someone somehow managed to sell their banned console and got a clean one would Kreon games work on it? Do you need any modding to get the Kreon games to work?

As long as the banned console was still modified with an iXtreme firmware then backups can be played offline.

Aussiegerrard · « **Reply #10 on:** October 05, 2007, 09:23:00 PM »

yeah but can games made with kreon work on just a normal 360 straight out of the box?

scuba156 · « **Reply #11 on:** October 06, 2007, 10:57:00 AM »

no, the firmware has to be flashed

Spoon1337 · « **Reply #12 on:** October 14, 2007, 07:29:00 AM »

So no one still doesnt know how the banning happens?

Is there anyone that has had a hacked firmware on and then put an original backup firmware in then been banned? It could be a footprint.

Havok · « **Reply #13 on:** October 14, 2007, 10:03:00 AM »

QUOTE(Spoon1337 @ Oct 14 2007, 09:29 AM)

So no one still doesnt know how the banning happens?

Is there anyone that has had a hacked firmware on and then put an original backup firmware in then been banned? It could be a footprint.

We do know... its backups mode improperly and not reporting the correct DMI and PFI sectors to the console.

If you backup your own games using the proper tools it is essentially a non-issue for now.. (util MS changes the security again)

anandr · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2007, 06:18:00 PM »

gday guys,

i've read through most of the posts on this but haven't found the answers to one question:

Q) can you be banned from live if you have modified firmware but DON'T PLAY ONLINE. for instance, if i were to download an update or a demo from live with no backup disc in the drive, or from playing a backup single-player but with live connected in the background.

thanks for your help, i hope i have put this in the right forum.

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