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mcornbill

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« Reply #15 on: March 29, 2007, 02:53:00 PM »

Hi all

On the Xeno Top Gear video where they show them either extracting/flashing the dvd drive, what program were they using?

I've got the kit, installed it and have it hooked up to my pc's mobo sata (nforce4).  When powered on my pc BIOS recognizes the Toshiba-Samsung DVD Drive (it's an MS-25 or MS-28 I can't remember and I've closed it all up now!).  In Windows I can't see the drive, with or without a DVD in.  Switches are on PC and DVD.  Have tried to read the hdd also unsuccessfully.  I know my SATA connection works as I read my 360 hdd a few weeks ago with the Xecuter connectivity kit and Xplorer360.

Do I need to boot into Windows using a Slax cd?  Do they even work for the TS drives? Lordy please help me!

Cheers
Mark

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« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2007, 04:45:00 PM »

Has anyone on here had success w/ the Blaster?

Also,

Anyone have any experience w/ the pci sata cards? My computer is kind of old...and need to add sata capability to my comp--this seems the easiest option to go as I have a few open pci slots.  Also I have seen sata to usb cords..is this similiar to the xbox 360usb?  It was $2 bucks on ebay so I bought it.  Will this work with my samsung dvd drive?
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« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2007, 05:33:00 PM »

Not sure if any one know's how to fix this, I have been googling around and havn't seen any one with the same problem (well who has solved it any way).

I installed my Blaster 360, the console boots fine afterwards but it can not read any disks (this is before I have even attempted to flash anything). The drive just shows as reading or will show as "Unplayable Disk". Occasionally the disk would start to spin and a black screen would come up as if the game was loading but then it would just through me the "Can not read disk" error.

I'm pretty sure I have been given a dodgey Blaster 360, after experimenting a bit I found that the sata cable that comes with the product is actually dead. (connected straight from the 360 to the HD). I tried with my own SATA cable and it worked fine. I then tested two different SATA cables (not the stock one), they both worked so I tried re-wriring the thing with my cables. This did not work, it still couldn't read disks. It's getting power from the PSU unit correctly but the data dosn't want to transfer through the blaster 360 unit no matter what I do.

Has any one else had this or a similar problem or have any idea what this could be?

Thanks.
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Maertz

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« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2007, 06:04:00 PM »

anyone i think i have the correct understanding i just want to be 100% sure
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« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2007, 06:05:00 PM »

anyone got any info on new versions of these products or fixes for them because they have a great idea going it just seems they need a little more work
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« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2007, 06:23:00 PM »

if it works as described, yes.
you open it once, after that you connect a sata from your pc to the blaster sata port to do the backup.

I will move it with the rest of blaster discussion

rgds, soso

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« Reply #21 on: March 29, 2007, 07:57:00 PM »

k thanks man
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« Reply #22 on: March 29, 2007, 08:52:00 PM »

For the last 3 days I have searched forum after forum with no help what so ever (not even the textbook.pdf helped)

Heres the deal I got the Xeno Top Gear from Divineo, Yes I got it cause it was cheaper then the blaster360. I dont want to hear on how I should have got the blaster cause its too late for that now.

I got a Intel D945Psn Motherboard which according to the textbook.pdf has compatible sata chipset.
I have also Tried 3 other computers at friends places and neither of which helped. Slax cant see the 360 dvdrom drive.

The 360 has a Hitachi-LG DVDRom model GDR-3120L Rom version 0059DJ mad in April 2006

has anyone got any ideals on what I should do and try ? I have heard that if I got a pci sata card that it would work... but which one do I get...

The only thing that I am able to get to work is getting windows to see the Hard Drive. My Bios can see the 360's hard drive however it doesnt see the dvdrom drive... and yes I checked the switched on top of the xeno top gear to make sure they where correct

Thanks in advance for your time guys / gals
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Maertz

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« Reply #23 on: March 29, 2007, 10:48:00 PM »

is it in mode b? do you have to hit eject 2 times to open/close?
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« Reply #24 on: March 29, 2007, 11:36:00 PM »

The Xeno Gear is compatible with Samsung and the 0078?

If, as I must make for the dump of the FW on Samsung MS28 and Chipset 6421?

   
And for the 0078?

Thancks... biggrin.gif  
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2007, 10:42:00 AM »

I will share my complete experience with the Xeno Top Gear.... please note I knew NOTHING about anything on the 360 before starting this. I was well versed with every other system and mods/chips etc, but not the 360.

Drive: Hitachi 47

Coming into this, every console I have has a mod. So I could not leave the 360 out of it.  I had heard of the firmware hacks to the dvd drive but never kept on it. Also, the real reason for this was that my dvd drive was having a very hard time reading brand new games. Would sputter and spit and click. I figured at the same time I did the firmware I would swap the laser out in the dvd drive.

I saw the price difference between the Blaster and Xeno products and purchased the cheaper of the 2 as well as a replacement laser.

Before it arrived, I read the textbook .pdf several times, but I am the kind of person that such a thing really doesn't click until I am doing it, and also, I need to know WHY I am doing something...

The instructions that come with the Xeno are barely instructions....They really assume you already know everything that you are doing to your system.

Taking apart the 360 was not very fun, but once I realized what that metal object was for that xeno shipped it, made things a ltitle easier... :-)  Its easy enough to install the cables for the unit, but is anyone else having their wires scraped a little bit by the top of the metal wall that it is coming through? I also cleaned the laser of the dvd drive while I was in there...

I had a gut feeling from reading many threads that my motherboard was not going to play well with my hitachi drive, but I was going to give it a try anyway.

I tried the hard drive hookup first. This worked without any problems and I even used explorer 360 and moved some data to it. Now on to the dvd drive.

I have a ASRock DualSata Mobo and the Sata ports are Ali branded... The VERY first time I hooked the xeno port to my pc windows saw the drive.  It popped up in my computer and I was all like "well that was 50 bucks well spent!" because everything I read said that getting your drive in windows and in mode b was the tough part. comparing the device manager for the drive to various threads on the internet showed me I was seeing what I was supposed to be seeing.

Ok, now I have the drive in windows....now what? I was putting in an original game and having it come up to "play dvd" so I figured its working correctly.  Just about this time, there was a new blaster 360 video for using it on 78 drives.....Watching that video gave me the name of the software "firware toolkit 3.0" and I was on my way...

At least I thought I was...Everytime I tried to dump/make a backup of my drive with this tool my PC would hard lock. And by hard lock I mean, nothing, not even mouse movement... After trying several idiotic things like safe mode, unplug other sata drives, etc, I was beggining to beleive that my sata chipset was not going to work.

I had grabbed a collection of the 360 xbins stuff off a newsgroup download and started poking through the other methods for flashing drives and saw from forums posts that the maximus garyopa firmware was popular. Reading through the text and batch files gave me an idea of how they worked. I felt it would not hurt to try to use it to make a firmware backup. And guess what?  It works!

Now I am wondering if the Firware toolkit 3.0 was only for 78 drives? (still do not know). What I did at this point was to make backup copy of my firmware and even open up the firmware in the toolkit to see the key and made copies of that as well.

Now that I was feeling ballsy, I decide to try the real deal, and flash this sucker. Ran the batch file with the required arguments and it failed at the part where it was supposed to get the drive version. I noticed that where I was running this from was VERY deep file structure-wise and moved it to the root of my drive. Now its able to get farther.... up until "Flashing 1/9 sector" and then it would freeze..

Reading around and finding other peopple having this problem and most saying that its probably a sata issue. I decide to try to use my Sata II port on my mobo. The drive shows up in windows again this time as a different name..... This time it has a "scsi dvd drive" in the title. And also, putting a game in did nothing nor could I click the drive letter for it...

Well that was waste of time and I hook it back up to the sata 1 port. For shits and giggles I decided to burn the slax iso and boot off of it. I did this several times playing around seeing what it did, etc. When I booted into windows and stuck an original game in the drive, something happened that had not happened the first 29 billion times I have put a disc in.....After 30 seconds or so, the drive spit the disc back out.......

Well that's something different huh? I procede to run the flash batch file and guess what? It goes all the way through terribly fast and flashes without a hiccup or problem. WHAT THE HELL! I mean, at this point I am happy, but I need to know WHY it worked this time. Was the drive showing up and working in windows but not REALLY mode B? And the Slax iso corrected that?  I still am not sure. I will tell you that my motherboard has bios ooption to let the sata port simulate "ide mode" and I was fooling around with those to see if makes a difference, but in hindsight, it didn't seem to make a difference.

Ok, now we THINK we have a flashed drive cause a batch file told us we do, and I am a trusting person. Now,.. back to that textbook pdf to read on the proper way to backup/burn... and what programs to use.
Oh,... Isee this stack of dvd-r aren't going to do me any good, I need to go out and get some dvd+r DL!. I pick up a 3 pack of Memorex DVD+R DL @ $8.99 and proceed to use clonecd (21 days remaining in trial) to start the burn.

Oh great... now I am reading about bitsetting!? And certain burners work and other don't!?  Crimany! This is now bordering on sadomasochism. Still, I trudge on. I have a cheap ass Sony DW-Q30A, a drive which is about 29.99 at microcenter. Link http://www.cdrinfo.c...ArticleId=15850 for the drive. This drive has served me well for ps2, xbox, wii, etc so I am feeling confident my burner will not be a problem. And burn at 2.4 speed? Wow. I really do not understand the science behind burning slowly and why it matters... To this point even Wii forumgoers say to burn at like 2x and burning at 16x, I have yet to have one not work flawlessly. Anyway....

/Cutesy music plays.... Burn Successfull! I label the disc and stick it in my 360, and the drive does its typically "I think I can I think I can" Psyche! Click click. Damit! 50 attempts later and there is no way this drive is going to read this disc.  So many variables as to why.... Is my drive REALLY flashed? Does my burner suck? Is "Is it live or is it Memorex" just a marketing ploy?.  I put an original disc in and although it takes a few tries, it does load the game...reluctantely.

Now I am byond irritated with my dvd drive and I grab the package that the replacement laser came in. I finally find a tutorial to replace the laser online and proceed to take a solder blob off the newly purchased laser. Again, I do not know why I need to do this, but a guide says so, so I am doing it. I get the new laser installed and put back together and the system does boot up.... I have noticed that with the Xeno, sometimes the hard drive is not sitting perfect in the drive slot and can make the system not boot. I bruce Lee the drive back into position and boot up. back copy, same, maybe even worse than before.

You see, by this point I had sort of an intimate relationship with the sound of my dvd drive. I could tell by the sound of the motor and spinning and how ramped up it got if a title was going to boot.  With this new laser in, it never even really got ramped up. The original game booted fine after several more attempts.

Screw this. I remember having to tweak the pots on my ps2 back in the day and scour a guide for the Hitachi.(Moda's guide)  With my trusty volt meter in hand a non tweaked reading on the dvd pot read as 3.9k ohms. Well according to the guide i was following, this was simply too much resistance. After about 40 minutes of turning the damn thing too far each direction, I was able to get it set to 3.2.

Put the system back together, bruce Lee the hard drive into correct seating and try to boot the backup. It boots. And, FAST. I am talking like it boots the friggin disc like a system SHOULD. No hesitation, no screwing around, just data loading. I even kind of missed the sweet conversations the drive used to give me.  I then booted up an original. Same thing. Lightining fast and no hesitation. I decide to get a reading from the POT of the original laser and it was clocking in at 3.7, which could explain why I had slightly better success with the first laser, even on originals.

So, after 3 evenings, about 12 hours total including reading and swearing, I am done for now. At this point, I am not even sure what the hell this 50 dollar product did for me. Provide easy hookup? Um, ok. But if I dont plan on having it hooked to my pc a lot, it this feature usefull? Easy hard drive data transfer. Backingup data on my 360 drive?  I personally do not give a shit about that. Game saves, maybe. Content? maybe. Did it put my drive into mode b?  I still am not sure. According to guides, if the dvd drive shows up in windows, then its in mode b., I sure could not flash it though. Only after booting off of Slax, having the switch on the Xeno engaged and having it spit a title back at me after 30 seconds would it flash.

Now I am reading Xeno is coming out with higher quality stuff?  So is what we bought complete garbage?  I dunno. Hope the read wasn't too boring.
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2007, 11:47:00 AM »

great writeup,  I had a good laugh. like any technology, it can be frustrating to the highest degree. But when it works, it is so good.

enjoy, soso
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« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2007, 11:56:00 AM »

im just hopin they come out with th upgrades soon other wise ill just buy a drive for my comp that can read the games.
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« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2007, 11:28:00 PM »

Well I'm still having problems getting my Hitachi-LG 59DJ working
Tried Slax 1/2.0Alpha/2.1Alpha

Tried another friends computer which again according to the Textbook guide has a compatible via chipset. However his computers bios see's a cdrom drive but the name is just a bunch of Weird ASCII characters.

When using Slax however on his machine it gets to a point and then seems to stop, the screen then goes blank and nothing happens (we left it like this for a good solid hour while we played some Wii games.


We also Tried the nGear IDE/Sata PCI Card which has the via 6421 or something which I got from ncix.com and this card alot of ppl seem to have used and got working however I havent gotten it to work at all either.

I'm getting to the point that I am just going to sell this dam Xeno Top gear POS for what ever I can and get the Team Ex. connectivity kit from divineo for like have the price of the Xeno Top Gear... AND NEVER EVER buy anything again from Xeno.


If anyone has any tipps or clues as to what I can try I would be forever thankfull.

Also when ever my 360 is hooked upto the computer(s) the front green power light is constantly flashing (before slax is even running and even if the console is shutdown then turned backon) also the 30 takes 1 click to open and 2 to eject weither or not its hooked upto the pc.
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« Reply #29 on: April 04, 2007, 11:00:00 PM »

I installed my xeno top gear and all I get now when I turn on the 360 (No flashing yet) is part of the 360 Splash screen. Its starts running through then resets itself and starts again ad infinitum. Had it all to bits and checked all connections but its still doing it
what can i do ? is  this normal?
if I install xeno top gear, do i still have to make slax disc? i have 0078fk
please help!!!!

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